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She makes music for the gays and girls but her fanbase is mostly horny men, and they’re clearly not here for the music.
The only eunbi fans i know are ex izone fans. But they seem to pay a lot more attention to wonyoung or chaewon tho. Dont know how horny they are but they are mostly girls. 😅
Maybe those music critics dont see the achievements of Kpop acts because those achievements have nothing to do with singing or vocal ability.
If i wouldnt be familiar with Kpop and then see how Kpop ignored good singer like hyolyn but promote new younger but mediocre singer as the non plus ultra i couldnt take Kpop serious too. I would think they are kidding me.
Many groups were failed by their company by giving them a bad follow up to a viral song:
Billlie released Ring my bell after their viral hit with Gingamingayo it was clear that K-pop fans were thirsty for a quirky concept and Billlie hit the spot yet their company failed by giving them a bad replica of Tom boy
clc with where are you guys I don’t understand how cube thought is was good idea to got from one extreme to the other
Red velvet having Queendom as follow up to Psycho is a crime honestly
Brave girls releasing Chitmat brama after rolling went viral was a very bad idea and don’t get me started on the styling of that concept
Mamamoo with whatever song that came after him do you imagine that they were this close to break into the international market but then they were never talked about again
So if I debut in a nugu group I deserve 5 to 10% of bts earnings?
YES PLEASE
lol. that would be funny. but i guess it would be more like the gouvernment set up a funding from bts 5%. and if you have a nugu group and you fail to make any money you can apply that some of your costs get refunded by the gouvernment.
i doubt anything like this is possible. Why would anyone do this?
Not sure in regards to the law. But any verbal agreement centered on a 9 year old is invalid. Even if it HAD been written. Let's say her mom wrote that she would pay her back once Nayeon because famous. At the time this "deal" was made Nayeon was 9, not even in JYP yet. A 9 year old cannot consent to a loan nor can anyone consent on her behalf.
of course in any case only her mom would be responsible for pay back the money. pull nayeon to court is just ridiculous. its porbably just because she is rich and famous so it makes more noise.
in my country a verbal agreement is as binding as a written one. you dont sign a contract but a verbal one, every time you buy something at a shop. its just the problem to prove that it existed or what the details are if one party is lying.^^
Mr. A said he had a verbal agreement with Nayeon's mom. Unfortunately for him verbal agreements mean jack squat in the court room. He got hustled.
a verbal agreement is as valid as a written one. Its the question if there was such an agreement or if it was just living expenses. since he had no prove and nayeons mom cant remember about that agreement he may have just made that up after the break up, out of lower motives.
Since the court ruled there is no such agreement... case closed.
anyway all that have nothing to do with nayeon. draggin her into court is ridiculous.
i think its not only resticted to korean idols and them simping about mediocre looking white guys.
western art, classic music, culture, european castles, technology like cars from bmw, or society like european welfare systems also find many admirer in eastern asian countries.
its partly two ways. korea and japan also getin more respected compaired to other countries.
even if there are lotes of (deserved) reservations towards kpop, thats not the case for k2 or k9.
I don't count casual listeners. I'm not expecting every person whose streaming NJ (for example) to be checking on the group when it pops up on their spotify playlist etc - that's obviously silly. The disdain on that part is to the labels and companies that debut them.
I'm talking about the people here and other places who are adults and are self proclaimed 'fans' and stans of the group. They are not people fit for a progressive, civilized society.
the labels and companies only make money. its the fans who buy albums, merch and concert tickets.
if the so called progressive and civilized society have a lolita fetish, its as trashy as the people.
its the kpop fans who stan those minors who cause the problem in the first place.
than those who voice the critics are usually hypocrits, since they only pay lip service, than buy the next ticket or album of a group with minors, while let fully capable and grown up idols like hyolyn flop all the time.
Nah, if OP is a hypocrite, everyone in this thread including me is one. The only way not to be a hypocrite is to not consume Kpop at all, since dollars going to support older groups is fungible and indirectly supports existing/pre-debut groups with minors.
As far as genuine concern for younger idols, I don't see mention of concern over the Lee Seung-Gi Act, which is a step towards more rights for artists vs. companies (financial transparency, restrictions on work hours for underage idols) which the Kpop industrial complex is finding a lot of new excuses to oppose. In fact, with supportive Knetz and a few on this thread that might chime in in support, it's sort of a given as the goalpost is now the return of full-on slave contracts.
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no. i will keep throw my money at bb girls. Its the only way companies get a reason to start thinking about debuting groups without minors.
atm youth is so crucial to sales and success that, we dont even leave the companies a choice.
I side-eye and am disdainful of every supporter of a group who debuted with a minor (under 18) in it.
you should only look at yourself. you cant judge everyone since everyone is different. most kpop fans are children themself. you cant expect them to think about things like this.
Same goes for casual listener. They just listen to charts or what is trending. Why should they know the groups or the age of the members every time they listen to a song they like?