Am I the only one who stopped listening to boy groups?

Two boy groups that don't release "noise music" but no one ever acknowledges.

NCT as a brand is 3rd gen but NCT Dream members are young like 4th gen groups and WayV (if we consider them K-pop too) is 4th gen.

Yeah, I pretty much stopped listening to boy groups in 2021.

Only ones I check out now are ones I was already listening to.

I check out Stray Kids, sometimes HYBE's BGs, iKON, and sometimes NCT. Other than that, yeah, no.

Then, let's go with ballad

I still listen to bgs but definitely less than before. For ggs, even if I don't stan them I check out their songs on the day they release but with bgs it sometimes takes me days even months to listen to their music. The only bgs I actively listen to now are txt, xdinary heroes, day6 and the occasional other bgs that end up in my playlists. But I definitely listen to ggs more now

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How many of them are there?

NCT units? 4

- NCT U. Members rotate depending on the song. Kind of like a "special edition" of NCT

- NCT 127. The main korean unit that has 9 members.

- NCT Dream. The youngest of NCT that were supposed to "graduate" (leave the unit) once they reached a certain age. SM scrapped that idea and now they are a normal group of 7 members.

- WayV. The chinese unit, they have 7 members so far.

More members have been introduced lately so they are surely debuting another unit soon.

I got sth for you

If you are looking for recs I can definitely give some TXT songs.... Or maybe some Enhypen songs too. TXT makes good stuff and there's a lot of variety too so you might surely find something that u vibe with in their discography. Have any genre u particularly like, or maybe u like performance aspect of k-pop?

I listened to Big Bang song when it came out, does that count?

I fell down the girl group hole after being a strictly boy group stan for nine years

Here are some bangers

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Good god. What connects them all? Like, do they have the same members or sth?

They interact and support each other a lot and their style of music, while different, definitely has the "NCT feel" to it. They also share some members (Mark and Haechan are both on 127 and Dream), and through projects like NCT 2020 (yearly albums NCT has done where all members participate) they use NCT U with many different configurations of members.

For example: one of the most popular songs of NCT U is 'Make A Wish'. The members that participated on that song were:

- Taeyong, Doyoung, Jaehyun (NCT 127)

- Jaemin (NCT Dream)

- Lucas, Xiaojun (WayV)

- Shotaro (a new member who's still not on a fixed unit)

On that same NCT 2020 album, NCT U had another title track with '90's Love'. On this song the members were:

- Mark, Haechan (127/Dream)

- Jeno (Dream)

- Ten, Yangyang, WinWin (WayV)

- Sungchan (like Shotaro, a new member at the time that's still not on a fixed unit)

I stopped checking out bgs years ago lol there’s just no interest left in me. I only first heard butter on a playlist shuffle a couple days ago and i still haven’t listened to exo’s latest song from last year

mood, nct is the newest bg I keep up with

i did too

i only listen to exo and select nct tracks

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just stan my nugus

4th Gen

**Ateez** (2018)

Aweek (2019)

Black Level (2022)

Bz-Boys (2019)

**D-Crunch** (2018)

DKB (2020)

**E'Last** (2020)

F.able (2020)

Ghost9 (2020)

Just B (2021)

**Luminous** (2021)

Mirae (2021)

M.O.N.T (2019)

Nine.I (2022)

**Noir** (2018)

Omega X (2021)

OneUs (2019)

P1Harmony (2020)

Trendz (2022)

Triger (2019)

VeriVery (2019)

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Good list but where is onlyoneof jenn ????

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Ewww no no nono just no lol

why jenn bad take

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You and your bad taste lol

i haven't listened to any male sung music in atleast a month.

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No offense but as a non-fan this looks so messy to me, similar to how when you watch akb48 for the first time. Makes sense cuz they kina used the same concept.

It is messy but is just easier to understand if you look at them like 3 "normal" groups (127, Dream and WayV) and NCT U as a special unit where the members come together depending on the song.

Usually i only check out BGs when something happens, like some kind of drama or viral moment. I think SKZ and TXT are the only groups where i will actually make an effort to listen, since they've had high quality songs in the past (Mixtape 2, Side Effect, Slump, Lovesong, Loserlover). I did like Ikon's retro song this year, plus Treasure's Jikjin wasnt bad either.

I check everyone's album out....

But I've been getting lazy recently. It's starting to feel like a chore but I still notate it to check it later when I have time. Right now I still have Enhyphen, Super Junior, Monsta X, and Seventeen's recent comeback to check out but haven't had the motivation to do it.

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tbh I dislike the whole akb48 system, I feel like it's designed more for the profit of the company than the idols cuz it makes the idols more disposable. you literally have a fight between the members of who gets the most screen time, this leads to fighting within the fandom as well.

Not sure if this is the case with NCT though, I don't know them.

That would be a pretty long convo about what makes idols disposable and all. It's true that being part of a big brand makes the members seem less "unique" and more disposable, but because these fixed units almost work as pretty much any other group (and since most of the time the units work separated), it's not as easily replaceable as you could think. The units so far have from 7 to 9 members and every one of them have their own fandom. Make a member leave without reason from any unit and I can assure you the backlash would be as heavy as any other big boygroup.

That's why NCT Dream's concept of graduation didn't work out and some of SM's efforts of "ranking" the members have been boycotted. The korean and international market for K-Pop doesn't work like J-Pop and fans empathizing with the members is too much of a thing to make something like AKB happen.

NCT's concept take different things from different J-Pop groups but they are their own thing pretty much.

For the ones I think have potential, I still check in on their music and development and encourage them to work on hitting their potential.

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tbh I dislike the whole akb48 system, I feel like it's designed more for the profit of the company than the idols cuz it makes the idols more disposable. you literally have a fight between the members of who gets the most screen time, this leads to fighting within the fandom as well.

Not sure if this is the case with NCT though, I don't know them.

Hmm I follow traditional groups and NCT, people fight over screen time in both. Certainly I’m a NCT stan and biased but I don’t think the system makes them more disposable. It is very clear that units are not the same if a member is out. 127 will not be the same when Taeil enlists and no one they can swap in temporarily could replace him.

Where I do think the system benefits is growing the skills of the members or allowing them to experiment with different styles beyond their “home unit.” We were just having the discussion that the younger WayV members were better dancers and performers for their time in NCT U units with some of the group’s best dancers and performers. Some of the weaker rappers improved their skills working with the stronger ones on songs.

(From a business perspective, I think it’s less about making them disposable and more about making each member even more profitable. If I love Jaehyun, I’m going to buy Jaehyun stuff in NCT 127 AND Jaehyun stuff in NCT U AND Jaehyun stuff in NCT all unit stuff. So it’s three times the money out of each idol. And there are 23 of them )

I’d also just say about anyone who thinks NCT is too many member, you could just follow one sub-group! Each of the sub-unit groups releases their own music and content and it’s entirely possible to just enjoy one group without listening to any others. There are people who only follow NCT Dream (brighter, poppier music) and people who only follow NCT 127 (more hip hop influenced) and people who only follow WayV (more r&b influenced).

For years I didn’t bother with NCT Dream because that whole cutesy kiddo music and vibe didn’t appeal to me.

The sub-units are WayV (5 right now), Dream (7 members) and 127 (9 members.)