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U jealous idols don't show up in your dreams

lol

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U can't silence me with nuts

If nuts can't....then that cocaine infused 7 up sure will!

more random youtube videos from no name accounts....

why don't you at least talk about the topic and not just post some random ass video that no one probably cares about....

just sayin

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Ateez has not got any true hit song, y'all don't let somebody fool you

says the one with ateez nuts in your face working at a 7up factory thinking about ryujin.

I mean I don't really know any other groups in 2nd gen i only stan 2 of them and follow 2 of them, 3rd there's too many I love, and 4th is like huge so I'm a just go with what I know

2nd Gen - Infinite - The Chaser (ICONIC)

3rd Gen - well the really popular songs come from groups I don't stan but since this seems to be a personal opinion I am going to go with

SF9 - O SOLE MIO or Enough 'cause enough is bad ass lol

4th Gen - this is hard as well 'cause i stan so many nugu groups

out of all the groups I stan i think the one that's the obvious most popular is

Ateez - Wonderland

5th Gen - i don't know if we are in this gen but i don't stan a single 5th gen group

though if Vi'enx ever debuts that would be nice.

Quote from icyruios

Also, I don't know if y'all would count Produce groups, but Wanna One was HUGE HUGE

NGL Wanna One produced some great soloists a lot of solo singers i enjoy came from Wanna One!

Quote from YamaChwan

It wasn't my intention to shit on Ateez, so my mistake if I came off that way. I genuinely don't know of ANY 4th gen boy groups with hit songs to their credit, so it wasn't something exclusive to Ateez but the generation as a whole.

The simplest way to track digitals is to find a fan account on twitter that does all the tracking and posts regularly, unless you want to monitor the Melon charts yourself.

Not that Melon is the end all be all like it used to be. I'm not here to dismiss what Ateez has accomplished since their debut, but a statement like the one made in that video is a HUGE one to make, because there have been some massive groups that have achieved great success outside of the big companies.

This is why it's so annoying when people make these comparison threads and then the masses come out to try to discredit ateez because they aren't from a big company or people just don't give them a chance, and would rather degrade them, then actually go listen to them. It's incredibly frustrating, and no i'm not insinuating that you're doing that. It's general information that's blatantly obvious.

Hongjoong has taken part in 110 songs for ateez also for Eden.

KIM HONG JOONG(10020014)

That's damn impressive

Mingi has helped out in 93 songs

SONG MIN GI(10020016)

that is public information on KOMCA

This is why i try my best to hype so many groups that are "nugu" there is so much great things out there that people just don't know or want to know because they aren't "popular".

I don't necessarily agree with the video, but I don't think people (in general) should degrade or disregard the hard work and the achievements Ateez has done since debut. Eden didn't even want to work with them but Hongjoong didn't give up, even losing his lap top and all their work and taking time over night once he got it back to redo EVERYTHING from scratch. He showed his determination and earned the respect of Eden and his team and he's been hands on WITH them on every Ateez song. There's so much work they have done, their choreography is insane, and they are GREAT performers. The fandom isn't that big tbh, we are no Stray Kid's fandom over here. But we got them 3rd place on Kingdom.

where he talks about his stolen computer before debut and how hard he workd to rebuild what was lost

an Example of their damn insane choreography

They are also one of the few groups who PRIDE themselves on singing live, if they can't sing live it bothers them, but if they are forced to lip sync you hardly know it. They throw in adlibs here and there and shouts that you don't hear on the album versions often times to prove it and sometimes jongho will throw an odd note or sing off key as well to prove they are live. They are just a hidden gem, but the fandom is just small I guess.

Quote from YamaChwan

Why use music show wins, which rely on a variety of criteria, not just digitals, when you can just reference the digital performance itself? That's way simpler and direct.

Using Spotify is fine and a good start. Billboard 200 is a measure of album sales, so that's even less useful than music show wins in a conversation about digitals.

I never questioned their fandom size. They just went on tour. I know they have a lot of fans.

But like I said, I basically asked a rhetorical question.

The other non big company groups have a portfolio of hits to their name, and those names would be mentioned first before we get to Ateez. But their story is still being written so who knows.

Nobody could've imagined BTS would become what they did back in 2013.

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And that's because most people sleep on Ateez, even Ateez said they don't care anymore, they are making music they want to make whether people listen to it or not. It's getting to the point that even talking about Ateez is a headache because no one wants to give them a chance. It's fine whatever.

I enjoy ateez and ever since I found them back in Inception era, they have been a saving grace, the only problem i have with them is KQ putting out 500 + photocards PER album release, it got to the point that it's unbearable to try to collect their merchandise. It made it less fun, and I sold all of my Ateez things. I would rather stream and enjoy their music then try to collect the massive sinkhole of merchandise...I hate that about KQ and they are doing the same with Xikers.

I do not know how to tell digitals on melon

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I don't know what this means to be quite honest because I don't understand Korean or their website even through translations.

ATEEZ (에이티즈)

음악이 필요한 순간, 멜론

www.melon.com

Quote from YamaChwan

That's incorrect. I don't listen to a lot of boy groups. I'm not some blind Big 3/4 stan. My all time favorite group started out completely nugu, so don't put that label on me.

Also music show wins aren't... digital performance. But I think I got my answer regardless

Music show wins are based on many criteria INCLUDING digitals, which the Atiny fandom sucked in until zero fever part 3 when the fandom grew and got their shit together (points at all the atiny's), so yes in some way IT DOES count.

Spotify is a good example of digitals and I'm sure you can easily find them on Melon and everywhere else ya'll look. They also made it on the billboard 200 top 10 for U.S three times.

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Quote from YamaChwan

I mean, it's a boy group that isn't Big Bang or BTS or Shinee. I definitely sleep on boy groups outside of them.

I didn't ask if they had good music though. I want to know if they had any chart topping hits or at least successful songs, even if they didn't hit #1.

I don't recall any 4th gen boy groups making any noise digitally is why I'm asking

Thats my point none of you listen to groups outside the big four...thats the problem yes they have hits i already provided receipts

Those songs are their biggest milestones and some of them won then the most music show wins. Wonderland was the first to go over 100mil views and a ton of streams

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Music Show Wins

Music Show# of Wins# of Double CrownsThe Show
5
1
Show Champion
4
1
Music Bank
2
1
M Countdown
1
0
Inkigayo
0
0
Show! Music Core
0
0
Total
12
3

Wins by Date & Title Track

DateMusic ShowSong6/20/19
M Countdown
Wave
6/25/19
The Show
Wave
8/4/20
The Show
Inception
8/5/20
Show Champion
Inception
3/9/21
The Show
Fireworks (I’m The One)
9/22/21
Show Champion
Deja Vu
8/2/22
The Show
Guerrilla
8/3/22
Show Champion
Guerrilla
8/5/22
Music Bank
Guerrilla
8/9/22
The Show
Guerrilla
8/10/22
Show Champion
Guerrilla
8/12/22
Music Bank
Guerrilla

Other Music Show Trophies

8/7/22 Inkigayo Hot Stage—Guerrilla

8/14/22 Inkigayo Hot Stage—Guerrilla

Quote from YamaChwan

No shade, but do Ateez have a single hit song?

This is how i know people sleep on ateez lol

Wonderland is THE song that everyone knows is Ateez Bouncy has over 100mil views and great streams the others are climbing. They have won several awards on and off music shows is the only 4th gen group to be invited to immortal songs several times and won 3 times on it maybe 4. Yes they have hits. They have worked their asses off and made kq where they are today to the point xikers was born.

Quote from icyruios

This

Sistar started nugu when Starship was small they were their first group ever and without Sistar there wouldn't be Starship.

I would add in BEAST as well from Cube

Beast is still around but as Highlight and now owning The Wind...

idk i felt like commenting it seems like people forget they still exist lol

I would also argue that infinite gave woollim a dot on the map

Quote from thebadguy

U know when we read something we tend to subconsciously visualise it in our minds (at least i do)

Today i wish i didn't had that ability

U may actually enjoy it more then working in a 7up factory next to ryujin

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What's your thoughts on ateez group name sounding like a deez nutz joke

They have deez nuts in your mouth

Quote from HwaGoose

Nah, I'm innocent and pure.

Yes yes of course

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yes and yes

Then you have your answer

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if u don't care then why u even replying 🤔

Its a forum and you quoted me?

are u bored with your random youtube trash?

Quote from HwaGoose

I would let Seonghwa destroy me.

I would sleep next to Seonghwa and have him sing me a lullaby.

The feralness is back

Quote from thebadguy

Judging by how much angry you are, it seems it bothers u a lot tho

I aint even angry spitting facts. I dont really care