Different people have different ideas on the kpop Generations
7 Generations
https://www.koreaboo.com/lists…cording-idology-magazine/
3 Generations (I subscribe to this theory)
https://preen.ph/101194/kpop-h…oups-throughout-the-years
4 Generations
Different time lines in the Generations
https://www.allkpop.com/articl…ions-from-1st-through-4th
This person makes a case for 4 generations, but I don't buy it.
So when does 5th Generation start?
it's a new girl group from ANS Entertainment
they have Bian former ANS member as the face of the group
According to this, 6 out of the 8 members of ANS are still trying to get out of their old contracts (probably to try out somewhere else), but the company is still holding them to the contract.
QuoteDuring the announcement of the debut of ANS Entertainment's second girl group, MAJORS, on March 3, 2021, the agency revealed that the injunction filed earlier by the members for the contract dispute case was rejected by the court on November 24, 2020.[15] On March 11, 2021, it was reported that 6 out of the 8 members (with the exception of Bian and Haena) are still currently undergoing a dispute with ANS Entertainment to terminate their contracts: the agency still holds the members within their agency despite having disbanded their group and cannot leave due to their contracts
https://kpop.fandom.com/wiki/ANS
ANS entertainment seems pretty shady.
To be exact
Do you know why Trump winning the election is a good thing for America? He exposed so many problems in America that has been hiding in the shadows for all these years. He gaves us the opportunity to fix these problems.
To your point, fact checking and critical thinking is very important. However, if there is compelling, evidence even after the fact checking, it should not be ignored.
Case in point
Yes the CCP has been rounding up Uighurs/other in Xinjiang if they suspect them of "un-patriotic activities" with their prevalent surveillance operation in Xinjiang, many people have been arrested.
Many have been forced to "re-training/re-educational" facilities.
Yes many have been put to work in "job teaching programs" Some of them are involved in picking cotton.
Is that forced labor, yes, is that slavery, no.
Yes, many Uighurs and other Chinese people do work freely in the Cotton industry and blanket bans on the industry punishes those that are not involved with the "educational programs"
Yes, many on the west are using this as an excuse to escalate trade protectionist policies against China.
Yes, many companies and celebrities are being caught in the middle and many make decisions with out knowing all the details of what is really going on in Xianjiang. (understandable since getting factual information out of Xianjiang is very difficult since it is an area that has restricted access just like Tibet).
QuoteThe Center for Global Policy said Chinese government documents and media reports showed at least 570,000 people in three Xinjiang regions were sent to pick cotton under a coercive labor program targeting ethnic minority groups.
Quote“Helping people of all ethnic groups secure stable employment is entirely different from ‘forced labour’,” he told a media briefing in Beijing, adding that nearly 3 million people had been lifted out of poverty in the region.
https://www.reuters.com/articl…labour-trfn-idUSKBN28P2CM
So the west sees it as forced labor by the CCP
The CCP sees it as a job training program.
And bias information flow that support each POV.
We may not even be in 4th gen and it's already 4.5?
Yeah, that is why I put as kind of a joke.
I think because Twice, Black Pink and BTS are so huge, people just created the 4th gen label to differentiate their new favorite groups from those groups
Case in point this thread.
Basically my favs are not the biggest kpop act, but hey, they are the biggest in X of those in the "4th generation"
Did AKMU have a comeback?
I missed it.
I don't think you have understood what I've been conveying the entire time. Yes, China has a narrative and so does every country. That's the responsibility of every government, it is to convey to the public they are protagonist. My point is... people should do their fact checking from non bias sources. If you read my earlier post, my justifications came from a UN report, sketchers, and Reuters. I even included a video from 2 years ago about Xinjiang cotton from a Uyghur vlogger, a video which came out way before this event has happened.
Here is Candace Owens saying how there is no longer systematic racism in the USA.
Maybe you will believe her, I mean she is black after all.
https://thenewamerican.com/can…re-is-no-systemic-racism/
But, I personally think she is full of shit. The USA is still a racist country, even if you can find a few African-American conservatives on YouTube saying the opposite.
Display MoreYeah... imagine referencing Buzzfeed News in a news report., you probably troll any harder. Few factors, investors, references, and trend. Yes Vox is "Technically" independent even though NBC and other investors have equity, you also need to see where the are citing sources and are they following a trend so they can get clicks. Clearly Vox has been citing the same sources at BBC, a government funded news outlets. Furthermore, many of these sources are still government funded.
You also should not judge a country by it's history, it's never the right approach. If that is the case we can probably witness another Japanese internment camps and the chinese extradition act?
It's also not just the Communist government that contains other ideologies, do you recall the Red Scare? It's really no different.
I'm neither supporting the Chinese or western governments on their policies, I just don't want manipulation of facts and hypocrisies.
You do not want manipulated facts, lol, like that is possible.
All news is manipulated, yes western news will be bias for sure, but is not like you can get unbiased news from China.
That is why I am pretty sure western media are over reacting to re-education by labor programs the CCP has against the Uighur that they see as "problematic" Is not genocide like many on the west are calling it.
Just your run of the mill detention and re-education that dictatorships seem to love.
If you want to know what is going on in Chinese social media regarding the Xinjiang topic, this website covers weibo trends and how the CCP helps set the narrative.
QuoteThe discussions on Xinjiang as Weibo saw this week are unprecedented, as ‘Xinjiang’ was previously a sensitive topic on Chinese social media and was barely discussed in political contexts. The last time Xinjiang became a big topic of discussion on Chinese social media was in 2018, when CCTV aired a program on the region’s “vocational education programs” in Xinjiang. That media moment triggered mixed reactions on Weibo, with some commenters wondering what the difference between a ‘re-education center’ and a ‘prison’ is.
I subscribe to this.
Hopefully their summer comeback will also chart.
Here is one of those introduction to a group video
An old interview on how the group was formed
I am still waiting for the S.E.S goodbye song.
If you can only listen to a few BEG songs, here is what I recommend
1. Sixth Sense
2. Sign
3. Abracadabra (Their biggest hit)
4. Kill Bill
5. Warm Hole
Also the whole Album 'Basic' is great.
I am checking it out on Spotify
Random
Almost 2 hours of their music
65 of their songs
