Who influence the lore trend of 4th gen groups?

for bgs it was already there, so maybe bts exo

for ggs I think aespa, bts influence in ggs is being fake deep and writing your own songs (we say how that went: pristin)

EXO is the blueprint.

I knew the world of Kpop would never be the same when I first heard the lines:

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When the skies and the grounds were one, the legends, through their twelve forces, nurtured the tree of life.

Aespa will bring more al. They will be the blueprint of digital era

To think when Exo debuted and they talked about their power in variety shows I used to think what a weird thing to do… now there are storylines everywhere.

exo

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I hate lore so much omg

maybe you just hate READING it?

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I like reading, but I just want to enjoy my music

why do I need to know 70 made up words to understand it ?

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so it's not a reading issue it's a comprehension issue

BTS & EXO. You answered yourself.

EXO

I mean it's right there from jump and everything

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Stop making fun of me

why do I need to know about the flat and Kwangya to enjoy their music

but low hanging fruit is so easy!!!

(especially with my ommpa loompa height)

you don't lol but it's about the LORE it can make things more interesting...

loona for girls and exo for boy groups

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EXO started it but it was BTS who popularized it.

Same in the GG realm, LOONA introduced it to GGs but it was aespa who popularized it

Popularized it for whom. Certainly not for NCT or Aespa who are SM groups

EXO was the prototype for SM and EXO influenced their junior groups… so no it was EXO who indeed popularized lore as well as introduced it

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I have to make it more difficult somehow

All of aespas songs are lore lmao

I remember being so confused watching the lyric videos for bm and nl

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no need to think so hard my friend...

don't want to start losing HAIR or biting your NAILS over it

and are you still confused?

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for bgs it was already there, so maybe bts exo

for ggs I think aespa, bts influence in ggs is being fake deep and writing your own songs (we say how that went: pristin)

"Fake deep", interesting way to describe it. Funny how you did not evoke successful groups like G-(I)dle.

Why everyone always forget Dreamcatcher when we speak about GG with lore

PIXY got a lore too. Stream Pixy

First of all these are all different things... back in the 2nd/3rd gen concepts were very popular, EXO had a concept, each member had a power or something like that, RV had the velvet and red side, BTS did not have a concept, idk how to explain it but each era had a story, like they started with the school trilogy but with HYYH success they decided to explore that more deeply (its more complciated than saying BTS has a lore), and aespa don't have a lore, they have a universe they're set, I think Loona actually has a lore.

That said no one because this has always been present in kpop, but the fact that BTS could attract many fans with their HYYH era theories probably made companies more aware of how concepts can attract fans instead of just being something pretty or artistic.

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First of all these are all different things... back in the 2nd/3rd gen concepts were very popular, EXO had a concept, each member had a power or something like that, RV had the velvet and red side, BTS did not have a concept, idk how to explain it but each era had a story, like they started with the school trilogy but with HYYH success they decided to explore that more deeply (its more complciated than saying BTS has a lore), and aespa don't have a lore, they have a universe they're set, I think Loona actually has a lore.

That said no one because this has always been present in kpop, but the fact that BTS could attract many fans with their HYYH era theories probably made companies more aware of how concepts can attract fans instead of just being something pretty or artistic.

Agree with this totally. K-pop has always had concepts and EXO started this universe thing.

But this lore thing became popular in 2017-18 when k-pop companies started studying for the reasons why BTS got this hugely successful. Some thought that having storyline made them popular, some thought it was fan interaction, some thought it was loads of content, some thought it was rap and dance oriented music. So everyone started incorporating these things that were possible to add to their groups. That's why you now have groups uploading so much content on social media, do vlives regularly, more rap and dance oriented music. Some went for this lore thing.

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no clue, but I hate them because now I gotta deal with eggheads talking abt lore on my tl

like!!!! my attention span is too short... no care about lore..

This is actually a mood

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for bgs it was already there, so maybe bts exo

for ggs I think aespa, bts influence in ggs is being fake deep and writing your own songs (we say how that went: pristin)

Lol! I always love your salty ass answers

Me, I inspired generations of Kpop. I taught Seo Taiji all he knows

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EXO too nugu to be influential.

Welcome to nugu land

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Agree with this totally. K-pop has always had concepts and EXO started this universe thing.

But this lore thing became popular in 2017-18 when k-pop companies started studying for the reasons why BTS got this hugely successful. Some thought that having storyline made them popular, some thought it was fan interaction, some thought it was loads of content, some thought it was rap and dance oriented music. So everyone started incorporating these things that were possible to add to their groups. That's why you now have groups uploading so much content on social media, do vlives regularly, more rap and dance oriented music. Some went for this lore thing.

Yep, totally agree. Even BH dragged the whole thing to no end because they thought it was what made fans interact more and get more involved with the group (if you agree or not it's up to debate, I personally don't ).

Just to add one more thing to the conversation, not related to your reply: Hybe and SM's having lores have nothing to do with each other tho, TXT and Enhypen are totally a product of HYBE creating a HYYH storyline for them whereas Aespa's is SM pushing to the whole metaverse thing, considering the talks going around NCT debut this is was probably in the work for a long time now.

BTS

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EXO too nugu to be influential.

Been knew they were so nugu and had no fandom or success to have ever influenced any one not even their juniors

The only correct answer is loona

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Yep, totally agree. Even BH dragged the whole thing to no end because they thought it was what made fans interact more and get more involved with the group (if you agree or not it's up to debate, I personally don't ).

Just to add one more thing to the conversation, not related to your reply: Hybe and SM's having lores have nothing to do with each other tho, TXT and Enhypen are totally a product of HYBE creating a HYYH storyline for them whereas Aespa's is SM pushing to the whole metaverse thing, considering the talks going around NCT debut this is was probably in the work for a long time now.

If I remember well, txt's lore and storyline had been thought out for a good while, before the group was even formed.

I agree with you that it's hybe's vision being continued. Bang PD's to be more exact.

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Same in the GG realm, LOONA introduced it to GGs but it was aespa who popularized it

preach

EXO and BTS the Blueprint