Someone made a full documented google doc about the timeline and public details of the entire case

here

they also are making a part two to the full video re-cap

video here

Because they all ruin their faces with drugs

No. The MHJ vs HYBE situation was inevitable due to MHJ trying to literally trying to commit corporate espionage. MHJ and NJZ would've been in this situation to begin with due to MHJ alone. MHJ just used ILLIT to distract from her wrongdoings and use kpop stan's gullible nature to her favor. She's done it before with her decades long history of predatory behavior and concepts involving minors.

LE was also an underground rapper before debut and was the one that taught trainee Hyuna how to rap, which led Hyuna to debut and become a mentor and blueprint for other female rappers in the kpop world. She doesn't get enough recognition or flowers

Opera singer vs. Rapper

"Who's the best vocalist?"

"threatens"

What if I said it's every gg that will debut after NJZ because people will run and scream plagiarism over long black hair and y2k aesthetics..? We're already seeing the results of Min Heejin's plagiarism coke rant with how trolls and toxic people will call any new girl group that dares to have another other than a girl crush concept, a NJZ ripoff (maybe this is just on twitter though.) hear me out guys

everytime i try to get back into this group, this happens

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They issued an apology

https://kissoflife-official.co…/67ee27607482321626430f7c

This nothing burger omg. i'm so disappointed man. i streamed their music so much. my streaming money was spent on the props from that live, it's so ridiculous.

also found this on twitter loll

oh f(x), the legends you are

i like the other songs too but i have to give it to f(x)

I'm pretty sure majority of their core/loyal fanbase is international, which makes this an even dumber idea. Don't bite the hand that feeds you

literally all they had to do for Julie's birthday was get a cake, some balloons, and maybe a cute theme like Kuromi or something. this was so unnecessary.

I still listen to their music literally every single day.

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But then that begs the question, is this kind of stuff part of the companies media training curriculum?

Probably only dating, how to pose for a camera, and forbidden words (probably to avoid Korean feminist language, and yet somehow not any slurs or any culture sensitivity.)

As someone who is both black and mexican, I've never seen this bad of a double whammy since Genshin dropped their Natlan region.

That being said, I forgave Julie for the nword thing since she apologized, but this... this is just ridiculous. not knowing is one thing; but they knew. two members are from the US and they all understand english well. i loved their music and i watched their content, but i'll be taking a break for the foreseeable future. the timing too... wow, i literally haven't seen this level of tone deafness watching a male season of a survival show

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[enter-talk] LET'S TALK ABOUT KIM SOOHYUN'S PRESS CONFERENCE IN REAL TIME, GO GO + MORE REACTION

What do you think? Everyone, let's share in real time

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Wowㅋㅋㅋㅋ There's overwhelming evidence, but he's only admitting to lying about not dating while squeezing out tears, seriously shockingㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ He's made so much money already, yet he still can't be satisfied and is desperately trying to survive with this pathetic excuse of an explanation. So embarrassing and seriously disgusting, f*ck

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In the end, he didn't provide any decisive statement and is just asking people to trust him... and it ended like that

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The last part really seems to be the key point. Right now, the bereaved family refuses to meet him (because Kim Soohyun wants a settlement, while the family wants an acknowledgment and apology). But if he files a 12 billion KRW lawsuit, there's a chance they'll have to meet, so it seems like he's trying to settle through that. I really hope the family never meets him. I wonder if this will go all the way to court

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No butㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I get that a lot of people are supporting you but what are you gonna do about the person that d**d?

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What I'm really curious about is.. so the family presented 2016 and 2018 KakaoTalk messages as evidence, and Kim Soohyun countered with proof that the person from 2016 and the person from 2018 were different (which basically means there were two accounts, right?). But the family had to extract that data through forensic analysis, so where did Kim Soohyun suddenly get the raw data from to have it scientifically analyzed? That part makes no sense to me. Even if the 2016 and 2018 messages were from different accounts, that doesn't prove that neither of them was him. And even if that were true, where did he even get that data to verify it??

[enter-talk] KIM SOOHYUN IS SERIOUSLY GOOD AT ACTING. AS EXPECTED FROM THIS GREAT ACTOR

This will become his representative work

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I was so confused when I saw him come out with his hair, makeup and coordi done

2. [+67, 0]
This is his representative work and his retirement work

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If you compare his tears to Saeronie's tears.. tsk tsk

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We need to put this in his filmography. He worked the hardest for this acting out of all his works

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They said that 12 million people from China were watching it in real time. He really achieved his career-highㅋㅋㅋ

[enter-talk] THE THING THAT MADE ME GO "HUH?" ABOUT KIM SOOHYUN

Did he really just say, "I'm star Kim Soohyun, so I had no choice"...? So he admits that he dated Kim Saeron, also admits that he lied about not dating her, but then says that even if he could go back, he would still lie...? What kind of nonsense is that?ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I was seriously questioning my hearing while watching that live.

At the very least, shouldn't he have said, "I regret not acknowledging our relationship and causing Kim Saeron emotional distress. That was my mistake, and I sincerely reflect on it"? He's so selfish

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I don't know about you, but I haven't seen someone call themself a star since the 90's; his ego is no joke

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The summary of his press conference

"Kim Soohyun, "I am star""

3. [+109, -1]
"I'm a star so it can't be helpedㅠㅠ"

4. [+94, -1]
He should retire and open a restaurant. Star Kim Soohyun, practice hard and become a noodle god. Star Kim Soohyun.

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I also laughed at that pard. "Star Kim Soohyun"ㅋ Ah, sure.. There were no substance to his press conference at all and the whole focus was about him suing

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Terrible actor, cringe, p3do 40 year old man. I sincerely hope he never shows his face again unless it's for prison mugshots. Kim Saeron went through hell and wasn't nearly as much of a crybaby as him. Kim Soohyun, you aren't a victim, you're a p3do who got caught. What happened to the confident asshole who was suing Saeron's family and had all the guts to send disgusting things to a 15 year old girl? Why are you crying now that you're caught? Don't be a coward, admit it and fuck off. He's nothing but a weak coward who prays on young girls. He came with nice clothes, full makeup done, and an AI script. Who does he think he's fooling exactly..??

I'm just tired of the same old thing with these idols and YG's "black" concept. Let's be real, that's what it is. It's not hiphop, it's "black." I won't speak for every black person, but jeez, I'm getting too tired to care at this rate. Just apologize or whatever and don't do the whole dramatic teary apology, if they even apologize at all. It's disheartening but I'm also just bored of it. I'm not saying idols should do more to "excite" me or whatever, I'm saying they should be smarter at this point lol. I just wish Kpop labels, trainees, and idols would leave black people tf ALONE. We're TIRED

He's the highest paid actor but his acting is this bad?? He didn't even answer any of the serious allegations and it was obvious he was reading from a script, hell, he didn't even address Kim Saeron by name. If this is Korea's highest paid actor, then he's doing nothing but wasting public resources because that money obviously being spent on acting classes.

Even just besides the horrible acting and crocodile tears, he avoided any serious questions, dodged accountably, and gave nothing but pure dramatics. He's nearly a 40 year old man, being accused of something as bad as p3dophilia and grooming a minor, then pushing her to the edge isn't something to just come in front of cameras and fake cry for. This was Saeron's life. So tasteless, so disrespectful, and he only made himself seem more guilty. After all of this time and all of that media play, the lawsuits, the dropped ambassadorships; THIS was the best him and his company could come up with? Can he be fucking serious and stop wasting the public's time? Just admit to it, and turn yourself into jail, never come in front of a camera again.

The most frustrating part is that this won't even be taken seriously even if he's 100% proven guilty. Someone needs to put weed in his suitcase for Korea to give a shit about seriously cancelling him

I listen to the bg member's solos if I stan them, but the only male solo artist that i listen to that debuted solo with no group is Demian

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this leaker is probably fake. 1.) most of these leaks are already public 2.) instead of exposing the mistreatment of idols or even scandals, they chose to out certain idols and post idols saying the n word (ones that were already online in the first place) and 3.) there's no way anyone is walking around with 523 terabytes of things from other groups and agencies if they're allegedly only a yg employee. not to mention that they're in the discord talking about "stream Oh My GIRL for more leaks" so... idk I think it's fake news. unless I'm missing something lol

to add to my point: they said they love bp (made sure to mention that they only like bp and not bts and hated on loona which is a clear red flag of a stan twitter troll) and then proceeded to resurface all of these old videos of yg artists, especially bp saying the nword?? all of this is old news, black kpop stans have been bringing these videos up for years now, but people only are paying attention to it as a "gotcha moment" against these groups or they're just now learning about it. the exposer is also speaking English (which isn't that sus), but they're also in "exposing" all of this on fucking discord of all places