She's such an inspiration honestly. Love her ♥️

Is this the guy that screamed at his bodyguard to pick up his earphones?

Is it shit or did our music taste just changed? Because I've been thinking the same lately, and I guess I just don't fw k-pop as much as I used to anymore

SM clearly. They always knew how to do their stuff since day 1. So many legendary groups + 95% of the best music in kpop + aesthetic and concept always on point.

Damn this feels like 10 years ago? I just remember having fun pissing off tokkis but after the hybe vs njz thing it looks like kicking a dead dog

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I'm not mad, I just dislike how you're highlighting the fact that she's made trends as if that is peak popularity.

Rei is one of my fave IVE members and I most certainly do not want her to be reduced to be nothing more than a trendsetter because I want her to be recognized as more of herself and her talents lol

That's what I meant and I'm sorry if I came across as rude.

Why are you pretending that to create trends you don't have to be influential and popular enough lol. My question was if she could be at the same level as Wonyoung and Yujin, and they're both popular and Wonyoung in specific is very influential and have a whole lifestyle that young girls follow called wonyoungism, so it's fair to use the fact that Rei is a trendsetter to illustrate her reach and potential. I'm not the one who brought Sakura, I just answered the person who brought up Sakura. Stop derailing the thread, I literally don't care about her

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I literally do not care.

Sakura has built a decade+ long legacy throughout her career meanwhile Rei has made trends that will be swept to the backroom exceptionally soon once better trends arise. Lke I said before, there is a massive difference between both of them. Being a trendsetter isn't necessarily something to base your popularity on because, like I said, trends don't last long and Rei should aspire for more than just creating trends.

I'm not even sure why you're trying to compare them to each other.

I don't understand why you're so mad

It's a fact that rei is a known face for only 3 years while sakura has been around for 10+

I stated this fact cause it literally made zero sense for that other person I replied to compare these two. They're both japanese idols in the k-pop industry but because of the career gap, there's no way to know how rei will be like in the next 7 years.

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Sakura's popularity has lasted more than a decade meanwhile "trends" don't last more than a few months at best. There is MASSIVE difference.

Learn the difference between trendsetter and trend first

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No, she wouldn't because there was Sakura, Rei's only claim would be being Japanese and she'd never compete with a number 1 AKB48 Center.

Though I'm not a Sakura fan, but she worked her ass off to get to the basic level of a Korean Company Trainee.

Huh? Did you read op? Sakura have been in the industry for a whole decade. Rei debuted only 3 years ago and managed to create trends that even non-korean celebs followed. She's not even in her full form yet.

She trends so often for her visuals or just being herself and created the ribbon pose that even Gigi Hadid replicated, she is the second k-pop idol to be in the cover of Vogue Japan after Blackpink Lisa, she is credited by both vogue and Elle for being responsible for the trend of stickers in IG photos, etc

There's many other examples in this thread on twt

I genuinely think she would be able to rival Wonyoung and Yujin in popularity if she debuted earlier like them, in fact I believe all members would be able to do that but Rei specifically just have something about her that people are drawn to her effortlessly.

Not really tbh but it's undeniable they're one of the most successful if not the most in the current gen. But I always associate top groups with groups that everyone knows their songs and names. And I can only remember Chan, Felix and Hyunjin and only know 2 of their songs

Welcome to the fandom!!!

All of IVE are baddies

Could be any member in this picture and I'd still be stunned

She looks so different lately. A lot more mature-looking now

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OMG i read this thread and the amount of stupidity you can read do people make some research before posting or they just take the words of whoever post on this thread as god words ?

THE ROSE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PPP

the rose is the "symbol" of these election

cuz it's the first time since 2017 that the election are being hold in korea during the Rose season

Korean election are usually hold in the winter in December

only the election of 2017 were hold in May (the rose season)

and the election of 2022 were hold in March

and May is the month of Rose that's why May 14th is the official rose day in korea

and tons of City hold a Rose festival in may like in Jungnan-gu, Buchan rose garden festival or Everland rose garden festival.

So NO the rose have no affiliation to the PPP

Actually the only korean political party that use the Rose as a symbol is the Labor party

which is a Labor party

So people saying " Yeah but karina is wearing a red outfit with a 2 + she used a rose emoji, it means she support PPP" Are DUMB cuz the rose is not affiliated to the PPP so it's already one thing debunked

Secondly ,

So you're trying to say that a girl is supporting the PPP because she's wearing a vest where there's some red and a 2 written on it ?

while completely ignoring that among these 12 picture karina share she also share pictures who involve blue

and the 2 instagram post that she made before this one are 2 post made in May, the month of election where in her post of the 22 may she's seen wearing a blue denim shirt

and in the post before this one she was seen wearing a white shirt with Blue stripes

or colors only count when it's use to criticize and attack someone ?

during the whole month of May (the month of election) she made 7 instagram post

in 4 of them she's wearing blue clothes

and she made 1 post in the whole month wearing a red outfit and people focused on this one post ( which i want to remind people, also included blue)

Yeah you're not going to make me believe that it's not a witch hunt against her for some really stupid argument

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Only you ignore it's not a witch hunt. As you can see, the far right in South Korea love her for this right now, to the point a politician defended her and political forums are using her image now.

Fans turning their backs on her because of what that image represent to them is not a witch hunt, it's their own right to choose what type of ideology they support, and in fact, deciding what that jacket during election week in SK represent to them is their own right too just like other MYs choose to see it with kind eyes.

There's no right or wrong in this case, just polar opposites.

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[theqoo] KARINA FEATURED AS THE MAIN PHOTO FOR PPP'S GALLERY

"PPP's Gallery"
"A gallery for supporters of the conservative right"

original post: here

1. Why would she take down the photo? She became the PPP ambassador and she's a goddess

2. Oh congratulations, she achieved what she always wished for

3. She must be enjoying this

4. She made it obvious on purpose

5. If I was a fan, I would feel so f*cked...

6. I bet she gained more fans from this. Congrats ㅎ

7. She must be so excited

8. That's legendary ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

9. She suits them

10. Does SM not sue for stuff like that? Or they just don't care

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This is exactly why that outfit was problematic.

Hope Karina is happy now with the type of fans she associated herself with, unknowingly or not. To see Karina end up as South Korea's far right muse in 2025 truly wasn't on my bingo card.

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Or maybe in the meantime laws have changed. I'm not saying it have, i said maybe. i guess we'll have to wait and see what would happen if woman is a victim.

Hopefully

Crazy how the justice system in korea seem to work like magic when it's against women but fail repeatedly when it's about prosecuting a man