le sserafim have no visual?

Kazuha exists.

Some people would say Kazuha but yeah, they don't really have it yet. Maybe Eunchae when she's older

Even when garam was in the group, most people were drawn to Kazuha’s visual. The group has multiple visuals anyway.

yunjin is right there??? there's also a whole kazuha

What BP when Jisoo and Jennie exist? ....

one person's trash is another person's treasure my friend

maybe you don't consider them visuals but isn't Sakura the official visual?

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she's japanese there's no way shes gonna be treated like the other girl ive mentioned

yujin is pretty and definitely popular, one of lesserafim stan factor but mostly ppl interested with her for her character and stage presence and skills, not her visual

i disagree, i see people talk abt her visual all the time, how she's a "hot girl", how pretty she looks, etc

I disagree because Sakura is a goddess.

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she's japanese there's no way shes gonna be treated like the other girl ive mentioned

Just because she's Japanese doesn't mean she's not a visual.

She's gorgeous and recognized for it all the time.

unless maybe u mean "visual" as in like.....yoona visual? girl next door, nations first love suzy kind of visual?

but i don't think karina or wonyoung really fit that either?

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maybe we can argue about jisoo but jennie is always known for her fierce & chick image, right?

she's never the "girl next door"

You said visual as a representative of the group and since debut Jisoo is mentioned like this and after some years even Jennie so they are visuals in SK.

You said visual factor, not girl next door.

Not related to Op question but people didn't into bp for their visual is something new, lol. Are we living in the same world? Their songs are good but their visual is one of their biggest main attraction too especially when they don't have consistent cb. The only thing is some people didn't expect that Jennie's visual is more trendy in Korea and Lisa for international more than Jisoo as the main visual for the group. Back to the old day during their debut, Bp is the group that people consistently saying has no visual hole compare to their peers at that time.

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unless maybe u mean "visual" as in like.....yoona visual? girl next door, nations first love suzy kind of visual?

but i don't think karina or wonyoung really fit that either?

And this. They don't fit it.

Umm didn't Chaewon had a post where people awed by her bare visual when the group had some rehearsal?

Also at the beginning of Antifragile, Chaewon is quite booming for her looks and not to mention her bob haircut.

Chaewon has so much charisma that any assigned “visual” would simply disappear next to her.

chaewon and eunchae will rise to the occasion

Kazuha is the prettiest 4th generation girl group member for me and Garam was also at another level. If the whole group is pretty, then they are a visual group. Even for Blackpink, Jisoo and Jennie visuals are always praised.

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am i the only one who think that le sserafim are one of group that dont have that visual factor ?

dont get me wrong, all of them are beautiful

but what i mean is like.... aespa have karina, ive have wonyoung, newjeans have minji... member that have strong visual appearance.. garam is the potential member but shes gone

le sserafim is group that totally depends on their stage presence, skills and aura.. for example, yujin and chaewon being viral multiple times for their stage presence.. other 4th gen group are gidle

just like blackpink and mamamoo, where ppl dont really into them for their visual

I do agree, when i was looking at Lesserafim for the first time Kim Garam was the one that caught my attention but she gone

i feel like Chaewon or Kazuhua have the biggest attention as far as visuals *ALL 5 MEMBERS ARE EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL, I LOVE MY GIRLIES, EVEN GARAM *

Also does anyone notice that Lesserafim feels like an actual group compared to Ive?

Like when i think of Lesserafim, i think of all the girls instantly, when i think of Ive, first person that comes to mind is Wongyoung, it legit takes me a few mins to remember some of the members

i disagree

Here I am thinking this group’s visual is super strong since each members have strong, unique visuals to my eyes. Like I can tell who’s who from the get go and they all are lovely etc.

OP, why are you conflating having a visual member with having an It Girl member? Those are two different things entirely.

"She's Japanese so she won't ever be an It Girl" (paraphrasing obviously) is not a relevant counterpoint to saying Sakura and Kazuha are gorgeous and worthy of a visual label, if you absolutely had to assign one.

Chaewon & Kazuha

they are all equally pretty unlike other groups where some are a lil ugly compared to the others?

What about Kazuha? When i first saw them as a group i thought she was outstanding compared to the other members, she kinda reminds me of Jisoo like her aura idk

they're all prettiest girls to exist in my opinion

Op is confused bc lesserafim’s an all-visual group that it’s hard to pick just one outstanding visual member like usual

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Chaewon has so much charisma that any assigned “visual” would simply disappear next to her.

idk why i find this said in your wry voice so funny lmao didn’t know you even like chaewon

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am i the only one who think that le sserafim are one of group that dont have that visual factor ?

dont get me wrong, all of them are beautiful

but what i mean is like.... aespa have karina, ive have wonyoung, newjeans have minji... member that have strong visual appearance.. garam is the potential member but shes gone

le sserafim is group that totally depends on their stage presence, skills and aura.. for example, yujin and chaewon being viral multiple times for their stage presence.. other 4th gen group are gidle

just like blackpink and mamamoo, where ppl dont really into them for their visual

The visual position is generally a useless position as I've yet to see any girl in kpop that gave me the WTF happened to her vibe. All are painfully drop dead gorgeous, even the ugly ones. Please don't confuse visual with center, an important and useful position for anchoring the groups dancing.

Sakura is the only visual in LSRFM.

I dunno, they all seem a very high standard of pretty - definitely an all-visual group, although Kazuha is the most striking IMO. I've never seen BP referenced as no visuals as they are also an extremely pretty group across all the members.

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she's japanese there's no way shes gonna be treated like the other girl ive mentioned

So if being Korean is crucial, do you not consider Tzuyu (who's Taiwanese) a visual member either?

Kazuha

this! another reason
Why I like Garam to stay
she is their fanboy stan
as pretty as Yunjin is
she had a girl crush aura or style
maybe Sakura but she needed to change her make-up/hair style make her a doll-up

Kazuha I think she had aura out of reach? too classy? she had some visual angle but that is it...
her ballerina image not enough to be fanboy bait?
Chaewon is pretty now w new hair but it all about makeup/hairstyle

means they didn't had a IT Girl quality on their lineup

if only
Minju join Le SSerafim

they're all really pretty though? both BP and LSF don't have a single member who's leagues more attractive than the rest, but that's in their favour. Those are all visual groups.