Well, there are comparisons to 3rd gen if you wanna take a look at them, and there are some records being broken there. Why are you in K-pop if you cant accept the generation system?
Yup as I said they exist but not for too long. Bts, Exo, Bp and Twice already up there lol. I accept the generation system but it's weird to put the achievements under that. It's for new batch of kpop groups not directly seperated the whole kpop.
You missed the point again
You miss the point. Why should seperated the achievements in the same industry? Because they can't beat 3rd gen?
I think you misunderstood. I said that 3rd gen groups also used “3rd gen achievements” sort of model 😂
2nd gen didn’t use it because there wasn’t really any predecessors to them that had substantial difference.
Anyways, this thread is too funny to not be my daily entertainment, and congrats bud on getting a high-interaction thread
Lol, it's not even a thing back then even among kpop stans. Some might did it, but it's not continue long in 3rd gen. Exo debut already beat their senior, Bts seal the deals, Twice and Bp already broke gg records.
Yup, glad to entertain you. Must be hard for always having that 4th gen in every achievements your group have.
No, you miss the point. Originally, I'm jpop fan. There's no generation thing in Jpop either. But why we forced kpop to be similar with others. Even tho it will be fun if i can make a thread about Kyomoto Taiga the 3rd gen jpop main vocal
Yup and 2nd and 3rd gen didn't do this too. Why need to seperate their achievements with the whole kpop? Because it will be less impressive?
Display MoreTbh like if we are to discuss this properly, I think achievements by generations is fine
Because like 2nd 3rd 4th gen are quite different.
If a 2nd gen group for example achieve 500k sales, this might seem like such a small number compared to the huge sales of 3rd/4th, but for 2nd Gen this is huge.
2nd Gen thrive on digitals groups like there are way many more BGs charting back then.
3rd Gen (could be wrong) thrive on concerts, bit of digitals, bit of physical sales.
4th Gen it's all about the sales, bit of concerts now that covid is not as prevalent (covid put a huge halt to this), and digitals are kinda only relavant for GGs
The generations are somewhat different which is why I'm still OK with people quoting achievements based on generations.
And this is also a huge reason why I think all the 5th gen nonsense is pure bullshit, because there is literally nothing separating the newly debuted groups from 4th gen except for the fact that you want to mediaplay your newly debuted 2023 groups as the first or highest achieving group of your made up generation
It's still weird. To be frank there is no reason to do that. They're all fall under kpop. This achievements based on generations are purely for weird proud moments for the fanbase and to show off with their peers. And it's just to create a fake illusion within these fans. They used it to fanwar while in reality it's not that great and many groups already done that before. It's still ridiculous no matter how anyone try to justify it.
You can’t compare K-pop’s generations to American pop’s “generations”, they don’t have an official acknowledged system like that
They do have some divisors though. You don’t see anybody comparing Taylor swift to micheal jackson, do you?
Pretty sure 3rd gen fans did this too anyways, we’re all clowns here
Good for 2nd and 3rd gen groups then. They didn't do this either despite the generation thingy. What an amazing generation and suddenly turn to this.
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Idk, because you feel ✨pathetic✨. Must be the only reason 🤷🏻♀️
If you're desperate enough disliking kpop gen thing, you can file the complain on Korean medias who created this? And Olivia is kpop idol?
Damn, must be hitting the right spot, right 
The council will take it under consideration
Good. Glad you see this, it is really look pathetic ngl 
You are late it's 6th gen now
And 4th gen still cannot move on from their 'the first and the only one of all 4th gen in this world' saga 
. That's how desperate they are.
It will depend on the songs chosen for the more mature concept. Twice were in the wilderness for 2-3 years after they switched from super cute to more something more mature.
They are still on top and leading by a wide margin and its all organic, but is it total domination and as viral like they had with Attention, Hybe Boy, Ditto, OMG?
Are you really read what I wrote? Like please don't interact with me if you can't even read my sentence fully.
Still cringy and will always cringy. Not that hard to just said, group xxx are selling 1837372 million album, idol xxx have 76572o2o1991 million followers in ig for example. Why is that matter to include that 4th gen? They're all kpop. Can you imagine fans outside of kpop doing this?
'Olivia rodrigo is the first 10th gen American pop artists with 34 million followers in Instagram 
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It's not a humiliation to put their number next to 2nd and 3rd gen groups. Fans just need to be open minded instead creating illusions that their faves is huge but only inside thwir own bubble.
At least girl groups now showing a huge improvement.
The thing that I can't understand is how people said they will going downhill early because people will get boring with their music and concept. They are only one year old group.
They can slowly move to another concept and mature their sounds. What is really important is how good and catchy that song.
Now imagine if Bighit was able to receive funds from the Privilege Tax i talked about in the other thread. Imagine your faves suffering through these horrific conditions while other favored groups were basking in luxury with entire bedrooms to themselves, fully airconditioned state of the art dance studios, etc etc.
Nah, Bts didn't need that. They built a huge empire by themselves without any help of whatever nonsense tax you talking about.
Beside, why giving to money to entertainment industry? They should give that to poor students that want to continue their studies not those idols who didn't think first before signing their contract.
I mean you see that I wrote 'a lil bit' there, right? I said just a lil bit bc they can manage to get into the west market with no huge promo there before their Lollapalooza and the earliest among their peers. That's all. The market seems to love them before they expand their wing there. Yes it's easier now especially with tiktok, but not like their peers didn't have the same benefits like them.
I mean 2NE1 has higher digitals than SNSD when their discography is 1/3 of SNSD. And SNSD never has global hits like “I Am The Best”. They only beat 2NE1 in album sales. So technically, YG has the most successful girl group globally in every gen, but they always lose in sales (Blackpink also has less sales than Twice).
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Again, what are you on? Take some medicine it is good for a little troll like you. 
We know you keep replying to gain engagement in this thread but this is hilarious 😆
There’s a pattern of YG girl groups beating out the biggest girl group at the time. SNSD was the biggest girl group, but 2NE1 debuts and has bigger hits in Korea and internationally. Twice was also the biggest girl group, and Blackpink also beats them. Now Newjeans is the biggest, Babymonster may defeat them.
Where's the pattern when they have only 2 girl group . And what with that 2ne1 with snsd reference, are you new in kpop
Newjeans trajectory is the combination of both bp, twice and little bit of bts. They debut with a hit songs like bp and and their first cb was really successful like Twice. Then their songs become a hit internationally. They do well in Japan and also doing well in the states. And they manage to have multiple songs in bb 100 and top bb 200 in early of their careers.
But anything is possible. If yg finally know how to manage their group properly bm can challenge the top groups position now especially with their big 3 status. If not, hope they learn that Bp is really a rare case in kpop.
And how some of you forget that Ive is here? If you say that the 'new' Twice is not from Jyp, why should the 'new' BP coming from Yg too?
This is the only mnet survival show that I believe might extend their contract longer. Why? Because none of them have huge popularity like the other produce series groups that make their company eagerly want them coming back asap.
But I really hope this is just another baseless rumours. The way w1 managing them right now are so pitiful.
I don't think so. Hybe have lsf and nj that they can shape into a cfs queen without spending a huge amount of money to sign a new contract with bp members. Unless they sign the whole team, I don't think signing them individually will be as powerful as when they're in a group. We all know how fans support for the members once they departed from their group will be weaker.
