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    When you're surrounded by people saying all the time the same it doesn't matter if it's true or not, you'll end up believing it. These situations make the individual thinking impossible, once the group of people have this idea they will continue with it and they will fuel themselves to be more and more radical.

    I'm sorry but it's really tiring when someone says something and the main defense is the "don't generalize" BS, I think I don't need to explain in every single post I don't mean every single person of the fandom, I already did some few posts back and honestly it's quite obvious.

    But yeah I'm also a bit tired with the hypocrisy regarding the generalization. 1M armys trended yesterday that tag, they've been spreading misinformation for months, they're hating on the girls (their instagram is a mess right now) even after Jungkook showed support... And yes 90%+ of these things are being done by armys, so I'm going to say it's armys. I think we've more than enough reasons to be mad right now.

    Where did you come up with 90% then? Think about your first quote and ask yourself if that doesn't apply the same here. Maybe tomorrow it'll be 95% or 99.8%, whatever you feel keeps you from "generalizing".


    I honestly thought your post held a lot of truths about mob mentality - a warning to many people, include those ARMY that have been swept up in this ego battle, spreading toxicity. But don't get caught up yourself. Because as you said yourself, you're mad, and that's always the fuel isn't it?

    What's really amazing is how you continue to prove my point while thinking you are not. it's crazy how you both don't see that you are saying the exact same thing - Oh, we're the intellectuals and they've been manipulated by the hivemind! It's the insult du jour. This is basically a meme, both sides playing the victim wars, when no one engaging in these toxic battles is a really an innocent victim at all.


    And you didn't need to bring up the other side since you've already ranted about it on end here - or have you forgotten? I can bring the receipts if you really need to jog your memory. You can stop preaching to me about what you believe I think just because I'm ARMY. I'm starting to wonder if perhaps you don't know what prejudice is. It's prejudging someone based on a characteristic - which is exactly what you are doing to me.


    I have NEVER defended Hybe's actions and have called out their unnecessary mediaplay against MHJ through character assassination in prior posts. They accused her of legal wrongdoing - that is one thing - but they should have left it up to the courts then instead of trying to wage a petty, toxic battle. I don't need to leave my idols and biases aside - I know where I stand - against this fucked up battle of egos using idols as pawns.


    You know what's really sad? That both sides have succeeded in mobilizing soldiers to fight their wars. Just more pawns. I wish you'd all stop letting yourself be used so easily. There is no glory in any of these stupid online battles duked out by the fans - it's only a losing situation and you're kidding yourself if you believe otherwise.

    How so ? We dont work with her, she's not our idols, our source at that time was only news and all of news talked real bad about her, and she has big stereotype with her past in SM. People have no reason to like her really. How a person portrayed not in good light in every possible way can manipulate stranger to support her ? What ? Shaman send big energy to us ?


    :pepe-tea:

    If she's not your idol, why do you call her mother?

    Mother MHJ is very wise :pepe-pray: . She has no intentions keeping NJ so long after their contract end. She understands the girls will go separate way and will have something they want to achieve individually.



    Of course the hybe stans saw it as MHJ only want to work with minor and would have not use them when they are getting older. Who the hell want to still be idol after reach 30 :pepe-tinfoil-hat: ? It will be like staying in the same position without promotion or any professional growth.


    The point was that everyone can and should reach their own conclusions. If they are the same ones, fine, but calling it "individual" and "intellectual" on one side, yet "manipulation" and "groupthink" on the other side helps nothing - cause BOTH sides say the same thing about the other. Do you understand now?

    The irony... Do you even hear yourselves? You either missed the point, or didn't get it in the first place.

    When you're surrounded by people saying all the time the same it doesn't matter if it's true or not, you'll end up believing it. These situations make the individual thinking impossible, once the group of people have this idea they will continue with it and they will fuel themselves to be more and more radical. It's something that has been happening since always and in more important fields than Kpop twitter, I don't think I need to put examples.

    Well, I can already call BS on this. If you really think this is true, then is everyone in your fandom a victim of the same groupthink too? I encourage you all to think for yourself, including thinking through the above post. Mob mentality can indeed happen, but so can stereotyping.

    Can I take retinol at 15 tho? And which brand would you recommend?

    I dont really have severe acne or something like that but I've been breaking out a lot lately

    Please see a dermatologist. Info shared should include how long you've been experiencing acne, if it flares at certain times, etc. Topical creams never worked for me other than further drying out my already dry skin - I needed actual pills to treat my condition. I took up K-Beauty too after getting clear to lessen my hyperpigmentation (I'm asian) and repair my skin barrier. Good luck, I know how difficult it can be.