Posts by Ves

Quote from OnceMidzy4ever

I disagree with this statement, is a free pass for companies to do whatever they want, and that can never be good.
Btw, Companies are not that necessary to let their sins pass. Is like be grateful to McDonald's for all the jobs they make, like without them these jobs would never exist. Nah, without companies' music would still exists. Sometimes i think kpop fans don't realize how fuck up is this system, or don't want to know and just want to live the fantasy.

I've explained my stance. We can agree to disagree - that's ok too.

Quote from soshixbang

https://www.newsen.com/news_view.php?uid=202404241022302410

OMG? Ok, didn't see that coming. Not sure why not, but I thought K-tokkis as a whole, like those here, would be more likely to lay low instead of immediately taking sides.

Quote from stxr

the fact that min heejin acc said that bts was plagiarizing her work is crazy

I don't think we can consider it a fact, just a "claim" at this point. Like others, I have trouble believing anyone could be this delusional. But who knows, it's not out of the realm of possibility. Maybe she is delusional. It's unconfirmed squabbling right now though

Quote from OnceMidzy4ever

I think the problem is in letting a company lying to us. Because companies wouldn't stop just there. Btw, lying about live singing looks not harmful, but what happen if the company, knowing their idols dont have to be good singers, that they can just make things work Post-production, then they just stop giving then vocal lessons. Is not that bad for the idols? the people we supposedly really care about? Another harmful lies. The diets, we see idols eating like a normal person but i only see a lot of skinny people. For what i saw about what other idols said, that diets are very strict, i dont want to imagine the impact taht will have in their bodies when they get older.
About the Santa comparison. Ves, parents care about us, really care. For companies we are only customers, and idols are employees, who treat better according to the money they make, more money better treatment. Is a bad idea giving the power to lying to us so easily.

My overall point was that you have to pick your battles. Sure I agree with you the the fantasy they sell can be detrimental, but I still don't agree that it's on the level of evil as say Phillip Morris. Is it greedy though? Hell yes.

I decided to spend my energy taking a stand in other places that I feel have more reward for my personal interests. I'm one of those annoyingly optimistic people always looking for the bright side. You can rail against KPOP selling a fantasy - I accept that the entire entertainment industry sells a fantasy and actively welcome KPOP's fantasy so that we get better Asian representation in the entertainment industry. It's a trade-off, but I feel their sins so far do not outweigh the good it can bring.

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Quote from soshixbang

I know right?! I was wondering where my thread went. I guess Mod is a tokki stan lol

IMO, I don't think a true Tokki would have wanted that

Quote from ThePhantomThief

I mentioned that before soshixbang cerated the thread with the actual news about this

When the mods thread merged evrything, they found a badguy thread from feb talking about something somewhat related... so, after the merge, the badguys op on the barely related thread became the first post, he gets the glory for making a hit thread and poor soshixbang eats dirt.

I've given them a shoutout on the tl;dr OP - they deserve it

Quote from TPHF

Aha that's interesting. He is a Vice President at Ador but doesn't sit on the board like the other VP Shin Dong-Hoon. Ador has a lot of VPs lol. But this indicates he joined Ador in February 2024. That further clears up the timeline.

Also clears up why some articles were talking about Mr. L. There is only one Mr A. in the end.

Any edits I should be making to the timeline?

So...

... Hybe is feeding reports to news outlets

... and MHJ is booking interviews with them as the reports come out.

It's her turn now right? What are we gonna get?! Bets?

Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

I don't know what she needs more: jail or a psych ward

Is either of them a new wing? Because the Hybe building can't fit the battle of egos right now.

Quote from Jasmine_Waters

Do you think Jin already has something planned when he's out one day before?

ArmyTaglist

I definitely am leaning towards YES!

Quote from thebadguy

Ves i noticed something weird, i can't edit my own post that used to be OP of this thread (now the post after your tldr summary post), but i can edit all my other posts after that post

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Another moderator locked it. I cannot lock the title or I would have, so thank you for your cooperation.

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thebadguy Do this again and it's a WP. I don't care if you want to play around and nominate best answers for akorns cause this thread is bonkers already, but leave the title alone

Quote from paradis

Always the privileged American Armys giving Hybe those big green dollar bills Ves  Jasmine_Waters

I am always in favor of more positive Asian representation in western popular culture. That said, most of my excess dolla bills are earmarked for 2025

Quote from TPHF

Timeline of significant events based on media reports

2023

April 25 – Ador’s board of directors is reorganized. Hybe personnel are replaced with MHJ loyalists such as Vice President Shin Dong-Hoon and Chief Creative Director Kim Ye-min.

May 19 – MHJ and other Ador executives receive 20% of the shares in Ador from Hybe for long term retention and motivational reasons.

End of 2023 – Hybe receives reports that MHJ is meeting with investors to seek independence with NewJeans. Hybe ignores it for now.

2024

Early 2024 - “Mr X.” who worked at Hybe’s financial department (IR relations) moves to Ador and becomes a close associated of MHJ.

Early 2024 – Hybe receives a tip that MHJ is planning to take over Ador in collaboration with a private equity fund. Hybe is said to have tried to quietly resolve the issue with MHJ but failed.

March 23 – Mr. A writes a report setting out plans for Ador’s independence

March 25 – Illit debuts

March 26 - NewJeans announce comeback and future plans

March 29 – Mr. A writes another report setting out plans for Ador’s independence

End of March - Internal document written by Adore’s Vice President (Mr. A) are discovered which set out plans to prevent Hybe from touching Ador and ultimately escape completely. He also downloaded a large amount of confidential information.

April 3 – Ador starts sending protest emails about Illit to Hybe

April 16 – MHJ personally sends an email to Hybe CEO Park Ji-Won, Chairman Bang Si-Hyuk, and Hybe America’s CEO Scooter Braun, directly criticizing Illit copying NewJeans. She requests to receive a statement by April 24^th

April 22 – Hybe audits become public. Hybe release a statement accusing MHJ and Ador’s executives of trying to break free from Hybe. Hybe also suspects Mr. X of transferring sensitive financial information such as artists contract details from Hybe to Ador and possible external actors. MHJ publishes a first response accusing Hybe of damaging the NewJeans brand through Illit’s plargisim. Later MHJ releases another statement rejecting Hybe’s accusation.

April 23 – Hybe CEO Park Ji-Won sends out a company notice regarding the audit stressing that business will continue as usual. Mr. A described as Ador’s VP comes forward saying that the plans to get Ador out of hybe were only his personal thoughts and have nothing to do with MHJ.

*reminder that these are no facts just reports from the media and the parties involved

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Can I put this in the tl;dr? Multiple tweets can take forever for some of our users to load so I can cut them to just one with the addition of this. I will update as I see it or you tag me.

Quote from Antifragile

omg ves is now the OP of this megathread

lmaoooooooo

i'm confused now wat is going on, it's just a glob of posts now

Had to give a tl;dr, because if there was ever a thread that needed one - it's this. Added the line about OP having a summary, thanks KpopJop !

No matter what side anyone is on, wading through all these conspiracy theories to weed out the actual details of this kpop/kdrama crossover is hard, but needed. So there's my attempt to right that, thanks for the idea xx-jenn-xx

Quote from Elbereth

Hey guyss!! Sooo i actually still visit akp often but just doesn't pop out much nowdays. Apologies if my replies are late

welcomee Kawonchi

Thanks also Ves for helping

VERY VERY glad to read this! My bad!

You know, when I said the plot thickens, I didn't actually think it would come true like 15 minutes later.

GALACTIC DOMINATION - called it!

K-drama of the fucking year right here.

Best villian - will it go to Bang PD or MHJ? Stay tuned, cause the plot thickens!!