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    My guess is that Rollin' will last another week at the top spot, giving the song 8 weeks in total and securing it the #2 position overall. However, with BTS' new song coming on the 21st, it's uncertain if Rollin' can survive another week on top after that.

    Let's not forget about "When We Disco" and "Switch to Me", both of which did quite well last year.


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    In a recent thread, reiusagi requested a breakdown of TikTok hashtag views for Fourth Generation girl groups. Now I've never used the TikTok app before, but I was able to find the number of hashtag views by accessing TikTok's browser interface. All I had to do was visit the web site https://www.tiktok.com/tag/example, where example is the hashtag of interest. Using that methodology, it was straightforward to simply look up views for each group. The results are shown below:


    Itzy: 5.5B views (43.38%)

    Iz*One: 1.7B views (13.41%)

    Loona: 1.3B views (10.25%)

    Aespa: 1B views (7.89%)

    (G)I-dle: 930M views (7.34%)

    Everglow: 716.3M views (5.65%)

    Secret Number: 537.4M views (4.24%)

    Weeekly: 301.3M views (2.38%)

    Cherry Bullet: 158.4M views (1.25%)

    fromis_9: 128.4M views (1.01%)

    StayC: 115.5M views (0.91%)

    Woo!ah!: 64.7M views (0.51%)

    NeonPunch: 49.7M views (0.39%)

    GWSN: 40M views (0.32%)

    Rocket Punch: 37.7M views (0.30%)

    3YE: 20.6M views (0.16%)

    Purple Kiss: 18.9M views (0.15%)

    DreamNote: 11.4M views (0.09%)

    Cignature: 11.3M views (0.09%)

    Lunarsolar: 11.3M views (0.09%)

    Bvndit: 10.6M views (0.08%)

    XUM: 5M views (0.04%)

    Hinapia: 3.7M views (0.03%)

    Purplebeck: 2.6M views (0.02%)

    Botopass: 1.4M views (0.01%)

    Hot Issue: 636.7K views (0.01%)

    Honey Popcorn: 458.1K views (0.00%)

    Maywish: 41.7K views (0.00%)


    The numbers are current as of roughly 2021-05-08 13:36 GMT. Here are the results graphed in bar chart form:


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    As we can see, TikTok hashtag views are concentrated heavily in the top performing groups, which shouldn't be too surprising. What was surprising to me was how much of a lead Itzy has built up. Also a bit unexpected was how well Secret Number is doing in this metric.

    The other videos from the same episode are pretty good too:


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    So the views for the Elcanto CF version of High Heels has now surpassed Brave Girls' official music video for the song. 🤦


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    As others have pointed out, a potential issue with this methodology is that groups are basically penalized for releasing "bonus" songs, as in the case of The Best Thing I Ever Did, if it were to be included (which it probably should).


    Perhaps it would be better to look at *median* instead of mean values for weeks in the Gaon digital top 100. Using median values instead, we currently have:


    Twice: 36 weeks

    BTS: 34 wins

    Blackpink: 32 weeks

    Mamamoo: 24 weeks

    Red Velvet: 23.5 weeks


    P.S. The numbers for Red Velvet don't quite add up, as there are 14 songs listed, totaling 345 weeks.

    Apple was very nice indeed, but I still feel that Mago is the superior song:


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    To help aid in your determination, here are the Third Generation girl group songs with over 5 music show wins:


    Rough – GFriend: 15 wins

    Navillera – GFriend: 14 wins

    TT – Twice: 13 wins

    How You Like That – Blackpink: 13 wins

    Signal – Twice: 12 wins

    What Is Love? – Twice: 12 wins

    Cheer Up – Twice: 11 wins

    Ddu-Du Ddu-Du – Blackpink: 11 wins

    Time for the Moon Night – GFriend: 10 wins

    Dance the Night Away – Twice: 10 wins

    Power Up – Red Velvet: 10 wins

    Rookie – Red Velvet: 9 wins

    Knock Knock – Twice: 9 wins

    Heart Shaker – Twice: 9 wins

    Starry Night – Mamamoo: 9 wins

    Psycho – Red Velvet: 9 wins

    More & More – Twice: 9 wins

    You're the Best – Mamamoo: 8 wins

    Nonstop – Oh My Girl: 8 wins

    Yes I Am – Mamamoo: 7 wins

    Likey – Twice: 7 wins

    Bboom Bboom – Momoland: 7 wins

    Gogobebe – Mamamoo: 7 wins

    Feel Special – Twice: 7 wins

    Hip – Mamamoo: 7 wins

    Crossroads – GFriend: 7 wins

    I Can't Stop Me – Twice: 7 wins

    Ice Cream Cake – Red Velvet: 6 wins

    Russian Roulette – Red Velvet: 6 wins

    Sunrise – GFriend: 6 wins

    Fever – GFriend: 6 wins

    Umpah Umpah – Red Velvet: 6 wins

    Workaholic – Bolbbalgan4: 6 wins

    Lovesick Girls – Blackpink: 6 wins

    Rollin' – Brave Girls: 6 wins

    Wondering if Twice actually went to Clarkson's studio or did it remotely?

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    Very unlikely. If they did, I imagine that Kelly would have interviewed them, at least briefly.

    here are also some songs that deserved better :pepelove1:

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    This. Yubin's "Perfume (Hyangsu)" is easily one of my favorite releases of 2021 thus far. I'm a big fan of the arpeggiated synths that are used liberally throughout the song.

    They served us knowing that this would be their last song as a group

    Well if I can get pedantic for a bit, Wonder Girls' last song was actually "그려줘 (Draw Me)", which also marked the group's 10 year anniversary:


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    So according to this source, this is the meaning of "red sun":


    noun; a catchphrase coined by Kim Young Guk during the early 2000’s in his usage of it and it’s accompanying hand motion while ‘hypnotizing’ others in order to help them in areas of dieting, health, remembering past lives, ect. ect.

    noun; a popular phrase used to indicate when a person seems to be under the effects of hypnosis (i.e 'dazed out’) and an observer wishes to make them 'snap out of it’


    Apparently, there was also a female duo with the same name.


    And of course, there were also the "hidden" whispers of "red sun" in Orange Caramel's "Catellena" (the only English lyrics in the song):


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