Le sserafim under fire for copying Red Velvet for their next comeback

And the timing for this isn't really the best.

Don't they plagiarize someone every comeback lol

Ok imo it is a bit too similar

But what I don’t understand is that crazy kr version is sooo different concept wise?! Why change the concept completely for jp version of the song?

The person who worked on the concept photos are the same. He worked on LSF Unforgiven followed by Chill Kill, and now they are working with them again for Crazy.

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Ok imo it is a bit too similar

But what I don’t understand is that crazy kr version is sooo different concept wise?! Why change the concept completely for jp version of the song?

We'll only know wwhy its different concept wise once its released.

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Hm, these are such common shoots in pop music that I can't even take kpop plagiarism seriously.

Lsf team is probably used to it by now. In fact it has been happening so consistently in every comeback that I feel its almost intentional at this point - no press is bad press. It gets people talking, its subtle so nobody sues them and fans are more eager to support the group that is receiving hate.

But then again, HYBE executives/teams are no such masterminds. Lol. They probably copy someone popular every other comeback and dc about their idols getting hate for it.

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Ok imo it is a bit too similar

But what I don’t understand is that crazy kr version is sooo different concept wise?! Why change the concept completely for jp version of the song?

Since the Japanese loved this concept style very much, they probably changed it because it suited their taste.

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The person who worked on the concept photos are the same. He worked on LSF Unforgiven followed by Chill Kill, and now they are working with them again for Crazy.

If so, I understand it because this concept is more integrated with Red Velvet. And Red Velvet has been doing this kind of creepy and spooky aesthetic for a long time. I think that's why it got criticism. So, when the person who gave the concept could not find a new idea, she repeated her own work.

I guess everyone copied Ladies Code then ...... I can never take these seriously

Oh gosh I feel bad for Lsf now They’re getting so much hate everyday. They just can’t catch a break, it’s either the HYBE stuff or singing/live vocals or plagiarising music or concepts or being labelled mean girls or about the documentary they released

I know they’re just releasing the Japanese ver of Crazy but this probably wasn’t the best time with everything coming out and considering how Crazy performed on kcharts HYBE should let the hate calm down a bit i feel like this might add more fuel to the fire for them

As always talk about "copying" is a bit silly. We havet thousands of kpop songs and MVs, millions of songs and concepts worldwides. You will pretty much always find some similarties with something if you search and try hard enough.

This concept is basics and the creative director worked with LSRF before Rv so I guess they copy themselves.

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The person who worked on the concept photos are the same. He worked on LSF Unforgiven followed by Chill Kill, and now they are working with them again for Crazy.

You’re overlooking the main issue; this has been ongoing for some time. LSRFM shows no originality in either music or concept, constantly chasing trends and borrowing from others, regardless of whether it’s justified

ah yes because red velvet owns black dresses and gothic themes

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ah yes because red velvet owns black dresses and gothic themes

They do.

After everything that leaked from Hybe and after its acts having multiple concepts similar to others kpop acts since years ago yes, it's not a "plagiarism" issue enough to sue, but it's plagiarism in the sense of just taking others works and going with the same direction. And if I'm not mistaken with lsrfm this is a common issue, no? Their concepts and music always look like it's from others singers, obviously not their fault.

By now we can say Hybe isn't original neither I think they'll be as long as they have these incels in the command.

Anyways, let's not act like everything is a coincidence. It's time to understand what Hybe is doing in Kpop and creating things isn't one of them.

It's intentional since the beginning. The fact that so many concepts/sounds of LSFM and Illit always have some "inspirations", but never enough for people to call out "plagarism" said it all. Eventually, their fandom will come to the "us against the world" narrative that everybody hates our idols, thus we have to protect them and shield them no matter what. This benefits Hybe as well, since the company can release anything regardless of quality and fans will eat it up and not allow any critism to the group/the company and mark it as "you just said that because you hate our idols!!". They mastered it perfectly with BTS and now the hivemind, parasocial cult behaviour are exactly the same with LSFM. Take a look at their reddit sub on the Weekly Discussion thread, this week only: Their obsession with other groups, especially Newjeans by constantly mention them whenever they can. Their obsession with charts, archievements and the "us against the world" narrative like everything MHJ does is to "sabotage their comebacks" makes me chuckle. They're so gloomy.

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Yes, everything is because of MHJ. We have a huge battle with a fking conglomerate and they have the ability to make everything about themselves

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"I don't know if Le Sserafim will become the most popular K-pop girl group ever, no one can say for sure. But Le Sserafim will certainly be remembered as one of the most unique K-pop girl groups."

"This is why I can’t understand when people say “le sserafim doesn’t have a concept” because they are the concept"

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You will never find this kind of talk on Newjeans sub, or should I say every other 4th gen gg subs because we don't give a single F about LSFM. Can't say the same about them. 41 upvotes, yikes.

Take a look at that OP's profile, found out dude was in highschool before Youtube. Dude, YOU ARE the middle aged men

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The kink to victimization and delusional is insane for a sub that has plenty of users commented on r/kpopfap. It's like the male version of Armys. So many old male loners yet they have the audacity to frame Newjeans fans as such. Bunch of sad, sad people

LE SSERAFIM is always looking like everyone else, but themselves. Their concept is all over the place.

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They do.

I agree. And I love Le sserafim but this tweet is funny

This having more hype that anything RV has done for years

And u wonder why sm don't give them shit

I want someone to rename them and rebrand them as “Le Zairapig” and when the letters rearrange instead of “i’m fearless” it just says “i plagiarize”

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It's intentional since the beginning. The fact

Take a look at that OP's profile, found out dude was in highschool before Youtube. Dude, YOU ARE the middle aged men

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The kink to victimization and delusional is insane for a sub that has plenty of users commented on r/kpopfap. It's like the male version of Armys. So many old male loners yet they have the audacity to frame Newjeans fans as such. Bunch of sad, sad people

They keep pushing narratives that NJ attract grown up men, when their fans demographic dominated by 20-30 year female/male.

NJ has "popular girls in school" image, while pedo prey young girls who looks powerless, vulnerable, innocent,and submissive.

Guess which Hybe GG groups that suit that concept more. It's definitely not NJ.

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After everything that leaked from Hybe and after its acts having multiple concepts similar to others kpop acts since years ago yes, it's not a "plagiarism" issue enough to sue, but it's plagiarism in the sense of just taking others works and going with the same direction. And if I'm not mistaken with lsrfm this is a common issue, no? Their concepts and music always look like it's from others singers, obviously not their fault.

By now we can say Hybe isn't original neither I think they'll be as long as they have these incels in the command.

Anyways, let's not act like everything is a coincidence. It's time to understand what Hybe is doing in Kpop and creating things isn't one of them.

“And creating things isn’t one of them”

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This having more hype that anything RV has done for years

And u wonder why sm don't give them shit

... the troll says on the very same day Irene announces her solo.

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... the troll says on the very same day Irene announces her solo.

And I will be here to drag it when she tanks, like Wendy, like seulgi

Or will revelus finally stream the music they said it's "so artistic", bc u never do...

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And I will be here to drag it when she tanks, like Wendy, like seulgi

Or will revelus finally stream the music they said it's "so artistic", bc u never do

You must be exhausted all the time, expending so much energy on hating people who don't even know you exist. But sure, you go ahead and "drag" someone who's actually doing something productive.

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And I will be here to drag it when she tanks, like Wendy, like seulgi

Or will revelus finally stream the music they said it's "so artistic", bc u never do...

Why do you even have Krystal as your pfp if you hate sm artists so much?🤣

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You must be exhausted all the time, expending so much energy on hating people who don't even know you exist. But sure, you go ahead and "drag" someone who's actually doing something productive.

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You must be exhausted all the time, expending so much energy on hating people who don't even know you exist. But sure, you go ahead and "drag" someone who's actually doing something productive.

I've never seen someone so perpetually bitter about everything, even their own faves.

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They keep pushing narratives that NJ attract grown up men, when their fans demographic dominated by 20-30 year female/male.

NJ has "popular girls in school" image, while pedo prey young girls who looks powerless, vulnerable, innocent,and submissive.

Guess which Hybe GG groups that suit that concept more. It's definitely not NJ.

That's scary!! I hope New Jeans have a normal fan base and not creepy men. Ewwww!!!!! That's disgusting 😱😱😱😱

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That's scary!! I hope New Jeans have a normal fan base and not creepy men. Ewwww!!!!! That's disgusting 😱😱😱😱

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Why do you even have Krystal as your pfp if you hate sm artists so much?🤣

krytal sure must love sm after the kick her sister

thats why she is still in sm no?

thats why we are in our second fx cmb of the year? right?

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You must be exhausted all the time, expending so much energy on hating people who don't even know you exist. But sure, you go ahead and "drag" someone who's actually doing something product

lets ask a stylist about it

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YamaChwan

Why didn't you say that with your whole chest and tag me?

And I'm the least toxic and most wholesome user on this forum.