Posts by Prongs

  • ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread - 7 || Summary on page 1

    Quote from hypernova

    even if they support her position in this battle with hybe, i would have hoped it would be shown behind the scenes and not thrown in our faces 24/7, especially considering her various controversies.

    they rarely talking about MHJ in their phoning session. Stop exaggerating.


    Mhj being attacked and bullied, hated and her privacy stripped and mocked by media. Even that convicted idol rapist didn't get humiliation as much as she was and still is.

    The girls being nice for someone close with them that being bullied and you said they are indoctrinated?? They worked together for years for God sake. Relationship is naturally build. Can you put in her position or girls position for once ? She's about to lose for everything and you with your stupid theory thinking what girls done is out of ordinary ?


    And who are you speaking on behalf of them, their feeling, their mind. Are you work with mhj before ? Or you personally knows the girls ? What do you know about their situation for 4 years?


    Criticising mhj is one thing but now you are just simply saying NJ girls are also stupid. Maybe just stan other idols that suit your expectation. All nj works were made by mhj direction anyway. You have no business to eat something you are spit on.


    Ridiculous.

  • Guys I lost to IU (also it's over for your faves)

    Quote from bbgc

    Then hasn't she massively failed, after all Kpop expanded rapidly during her reign in S. Korea.


    Like saying Queen Victoria was against the expansion of the British Colonial Empire.

    Lol...who said that.

    IU doesn't operate like idol groups.

    She doesn't stack multiple albums version, her fans don't have streaming procedure where one fan will make multiple account for streaming, she barely make US promotion yet her concert is always full.

    Every korean I encountered irl know her and respect her.

    Idol groups only famous for their fans, but not for regular people.


    And she doesn't make crap music that caters to demographic who easily amused like idols fandom.


    And she still much much richer than idols who make US tour.


    Joke on them actually. They worked hard for cpy, IU is the cpy.

  • Le sserrafim's sales for CRAZY tanked like crazy. 80% decline.

    Quote from Wateris

    Music is always subjective, but to me, Crazy is iconic and a hit. Some songs released this year are snooze fest compared to it. :twerkingpepe::violinist-pepe:

    I know Crazy is making waves globally and causing quite a stir. With Source planning to drop 2 MVs for the B-sides (manifesting) and LSF being treated so well, it's clear their impact for the company is already significant for the future.

    :teddy-pepe:

    Guess It's a good thing having rich daddy hybe and being BTS sister. Your song can sound like cat trapped in ceiling, and fans will call it masterpiece anyway.


    :pepe-tea:

  • Le sserrafim's sales for CRAZY tanked like crazy. 80% decline.

    yeah, it's so crazy how bad song can have million sales while the good ones not. Only in kpop,man. But hey, source can pay their debt now and lsrf manager can stop whining about mhj stole the NJ away in his x.


    :pepepizza:

  • I read somewhere that HYBE doesn’t have a penalty fee for contract termination. Is that right?

    Quote from blossom9990

    I forgot to save the tweet, and since it was in Korean, I couldn’t find it again. But from what I remember, it sounded like the members might have to give up their whole careers as NewJeans and start over from scratch if they want to left Hybe. I mean, it’s such a huge decision since there’s no guarantee they could come back with another successful career like NewJeans, especially with the group name already having such great commercial success. So, even though it's true, it's still hard to think that the girls will give up all of that just to get out of Hybe except they're really desperate and they see no other way out anymore. Yet, with how the NewJeans girls have been acting about after Mhj get fired, idk anymore. They’re not even hiding how uncomfortable they are with the new management anymore.


    Honestly, I’d actually feel a huge sense of relief if they left, even if they didn’t reach the same level of success outside of HYBE. I’d rather see them as a B-tier group in a place where they’re comfortable and with people they can trust their life and careers with. And even if they have to start over with a new name, I will keep supporting them. It won’t be easy, but it’s better for their mental health seeing how stressful this whole shitshow and how it affected them. I’d love to see them cut ties with MHJ too and start fresh somewhere else, but judging by the girls reactions, it seems like if they leave HYBE, they might just follow her wherever she ends up.

    From article in May


    In NewJeans’ case, according to Korea’s Fair Trade Commission’s standard exclusive management contract, the fees that one has to pay for a termination of contract is the sum of the average monthly sales for the previous two years, multiplied by the number of months remaining in the contract. They would also have to pay back the investments that they received. Although no one knows for certain how much money the company invested into NewJeans, an entertainment industry official claims that the average cost for a girl group is between ₩7.00 billion KRW (about $5.10 million USD) to ₩1.00 billion KRW (about $729,000 USD).


    NewJeans’ remaining contract period is said to be around 60 months. They also recovered all its investments thanks to their success, and were paid a salary after just two months of debut. This allows them to be exempt from paying back the investments, as is usually the case for other, less successful celebrities. NewJeans’ average monthly income has been estimated to be ₩3.50 billion KRW (about $2.55 million USD) during their debut era. Based off that, they would have to pay at least ₩210 billion KRW (about $153 million USD) in penalties. The amount is probably more, as their income has increased more than the original debut era income.

  • Creative directors love minors

    Quote from patrik-k

    Well I'm clearly not the only one that get the lolita vibes from them sometimes, you can see similar opinion on the net.

    There are two definition of lolita that people seems to be confused.

    1. Lolita as in Japanese culture = cute, young-look, innocent "little girl" image

    2. Lolita as in russian litterature =Obsession of male adult toward the minors particularly teenage girls. In this case, he acts like he has the same age with the girls.


    I don't think NJ is either. Their concepts are not cute. And their fans demographic mostly still on their 20s (53%), the 2nd highest are on their 10s(22%), 19% in their 30s.

  • Creative directors love minors

    Quote from patrik-k

    Just saying, the photos can give away a bit mixed signals.....


    like in this teenvogue photo, you have lot of similar photos of them that can be a bit "prolematic" I would say.


    https://www.teenvogue.com/stor…with-new-ep-get-up-review

    This is just the most basic gg photo concept. Some Greek goddess photo style thing.

    And they are all blonde and wearing gold pants, for God sake. They don't look innocent at all. If anything, they remind me of that Jane fonda training video.

  • Creative directors love minors

    Quote from stxr

    Ur right but their song cookie wasn’t rlly appropriate for minors to be singing- and I’m mostly referring to her old works with other group where she made the minors seem older than they are

    cookie is legit debatable. From I know, the Korean GP didn't find the song offensive at first. But ifans has their own opinion (loud opinion) and somehow it became controversy. I used to believe ifans and refrained listen to the song, but after this case and learn the song was made to mock bsh, I am gladly put in my playlist anytime of day now :pepe-tea: .


    I didn't follow her past work, all I know is NJ. When NJ debut, all I could think of is 90s teenage group. They were fresh and fun to look at,just like reminiscing our teenage era.

    Even up to this days, with Hype Boy,attention, ditto, supernatural how people still see them as "lolita" is baffle me. How can you sexualize girl wearing regular teenager cloth and dancing to regular teenage dance. just because they look gorgeous at such young age??


    And for the most of kpop, the only I see lolita concept is from illit, since they are literally being dressed like toddler and wonhee audition with that creepy judge. While the rest is just given older concept, like baby monster.

  • Creative directors love minors

    In what way NJ is sexualized ? Their image is pretty much regular teenager for me.

    No twerking dance, proper teenage cloth, etc.

    Most artist prefer to debut while they are still young, to get them long span to grow and reach their peak while they are still in their 20. Everyone knows what happened to idols once they reach 30, especially female idola. Boa, iu, all debut in very young age. So I don't get why it's an issue for NJ.