Do you think Korean idol visuals are overrated compared to their Asian counterparts?

Korea has better ps and makeup industry

if they were to compete naturally then they'd seem about the same

I like korea's style of visual, as well as make up style, more than some other asian countries (mostly china and japan as i'm not super familiar with Taiwan, thailand, philippines etc).

It's very classic and clean beauty, almost a girl/guy next door vibe for most of them.

Akb48's southeast asian sister groups also have really pretty visuals too

that thread was made in 2016 lol

Chinese visual are too strong looking

Japanese visuals are the least impressionable

Korean visuals have the perfect balance

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Korea has better ps and makeup industry

if they were to compete naturally then they'd seem about the same

Yep, that's their trump card

The most naturally good-looking idols are the japanese imo

Didn't Produce 48 already prove a point?

Look at the Japanese 48G idols that participated in Produce 48: many looked ordinary, but give them the Korean style makeover they got, and a lot of them upgraded several levels in visuals - and no, it wasn't some speed PS they got (I bet that if it had been Korean idols and not in a survival show, that K-pop fans would have immediately attributed it to PS, and never given it any thought that it might've been styling and make-up , ifans and netizens never think styling and make-up have an effect when it's regarding K-pop idol visuals, apparently it's always PS...)

It shows how much good, expert styling and make up - and in some cases healthy exercise and weight loss - can affect someone's looks, an effect that is often underestimated by K-pop fans.

After that, it all just becomes a matter of personal preference, everyone has different preferences in what they like in looks, but bottomline is that beauty isn't restricted to country, how that innate beauty can shine however depends on the approach to styling and make-up that's being taken.

Tzuyu is Goddess level on all levels.

Bc visuals isn't everything I can name lots of thai actors,actress who westerners would find them so attractive. But people in the country don't even care

Just like who you like regardless of country!!!!

Do I like some Japanese idols - sure ...all? of course not

Do I like some Korean idols - sure ...all? of course not

Do I like some Chinese idols - sure ...all? of course not

does it really matter if one countries' idols are overrated or underrated compared to another...

I've been to lots of countries in Asia on travel and there are beautiful women everywhere. Vietnam/Thailand/China had some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life! I was in a club with some friends in Shanghai and my goodness... something I will never forget!

I'm Thai and a fan of Thai idols, but honestly speaking - none of them would've made it in the Thai entertainment industry based on their looks. There are much better looking Thai celebrities in the country (both pure Thai & mixed), heck there's probably at least 10 better looking people in my school alone.

Actually there are a lot of very pretty people all across the world, you sometimes just don't see them walking around like "hey look this country has ONLY hot and good looking people" . I think that even if someone says as example that Chinese people would look better than as for example Thai people, there might be still some people in Thailand who could proove you otherwise, but it mainly is based on the fact what type of people you see because everyone has different experiences in their life. So if let's say someone hangs around with a lot people who do plastic surgery, heavy makeup blah blah blah... than they of cause think otherwise about a countrie's beauty than people who mostly meet "uglier" people that arn't into makeup.

On Youtube a woman who lived for 3 years in Busan also said that its more likly to meet people who are not too heavy into the Korean beauty than if you would walk around Seoul. She also said that over 80% of a foreign people's perspective on how someone has to look like in Korea is based on people who are from Seoul so just cause many people in Seoul care more for their beauty and are more into stuff like plastic surgery, it still dosn't mean you get to know the full variety of people living in Korea and what they look like.

You can put this literally on all countries in the world, because it is impossible to see how a full country looks like if you only see a few hundret people.

And for all of you who don't think that Japanese people could be in the same level as some KPop-idols, here are a few very pretty Japanese idols and artists who might proof you different:

Yamamoto Anna

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Nakamoto Taiga

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Ogata Kokona

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Kaneya Maria

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Hokuto Yoshino

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Nakatani Hyuga

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Masuda Kurea

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Den Ayaka

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Yoshida Sumire

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Takao Hayato

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Kono Junki

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korean visuals are just as good as any, when it comes to truly prefer "a type" maybe our personal taste have more of a saying, that being said I do enjoy chinese, korean and japanese visuals a lot, it's difficult to point out..

korean visuals like sometimes I think they are just naturally very impressive (Yoona, Irene, Tzuyu, Jisoo, Krystal, Sulli) idk if op is referring to the "visuals" position but I don't see them as "lacking" in any department maybe they get more attention on KR because every country has its own preference? when it comes to say who is "the most beautiful"...

tldr no korean visuals are not overrated

Visauls half value is on popularity

i mean, if you look back some of the visuals in the past...you would think: People went crazy for this dude/girl?

and it works of both sides, i look back to some people i used to find attractive on asian or western artists and now i think: what was i thinking? they are not THAT ATTRACTIVE!

so the answerd to your questions is , very posible that the idol or artist that is consider a top visual, in fact is not that hansome/pretty. But because they are very popular, people say they are the most attractive.

SM used to have top visuals, but now there are other groups with the same level...txt can be tide to NCT Dream.

And like you said, the kpop artist has a ton of work (styling) done on them, if they didn´t, i think we would think they are not even that good looking

good looking people will always be considered good looking anywhere, it doesn't matter lol

the only reason kpop stans don't talk about beauties from other countries is because they don't know about them, and kpop is worldwide more popular.

Imo chinese and japanese men are more attractive than korean guys overall, tho.

I prefer Korea visually. When I watched a Japanese drama, they didn't look visually impressive. Then when I switched from Japanese drama to Korean drama, all Koreans all looked handsome and beautiful for a moment. 

That’s just a matter of preference at the end of the day. Good looking people are good looking. I doubt nationality is a factor here

I think Chinese/Taiwanese girls are generally prettier but it's all about preference tbh

Chinese actresses > all other Asian entertainers - even if they are seldom allowed to speak in their own voices on film. Can't argue with a "talent" pool of 1.4 billion people.

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I've been to lots of countries in Asia on travel and there are beautiful women everywhere. Vietnam/Thailand/China had some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life! I was in a club with some friends in Shanghai and my goodness... something I will never forget!

Shanghai: Just for the chance of running into Jackson Wang🤪….

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No I don't see them as overrated.

There are astounding beauties from all Asian countries.

it depends on your preference.

You point to Korean visuals as being plain or lacking character. Who are you talking about?

If it's the usual suspects. Yoona, Irene, and visuals of that kind, etc. I have to strongly disagree with the sentiment that they are lacking in distinction or character.

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I think I know who they’re talking about though LOL

Only group of Asians that can out beat Korean idols based off my experience from dipping in other asian entertainment industries are the Chinese….lot of attractive people over there but then again there are a billion of them and 56 ethnicities giving them the leg up.

To begin with I think all nations have their own type of beauty I don't follow all of this Aasian countries but the one that i follow which are japanese celebrity and all of them are pretty and what i like about them is that all of them have a distinct look.

When it comes to Koreans they have perfected makeup they are so good that it's seems it's plastic surgery for example lately I've noticed that Somi looks different for this comeback and i thought she did something to her face it turned out she has a new makeup artist

I don’t really go for visuals as the most important is their music😃….🙄

And because the idols work so hard they also excel in their performances. I just saw that performance with Lay in China (with the blonde hair..) and that was….epic.

I have yet to experience a kpop concert irl - hopefully that will happen soon.

That being said I don’t mind how they look😊.

Got plenty of Scandis around here that are good looking but most can’t dance😂. And none has fandoms like in SK🤷‍♀️. Or spend money on concerts like in Asia.

I like the package of great songs, nice men, dancing and great videos.

With the gg I like their songs…don’t care for visuals.

Also in SK (or the rest of asia) even freaking dance videos get 200 million views on YT…Don’t see that in Scandinavia.

I don’t care where they are from really.

I like that asian wave - it’s much deserved.

It opens my eyes and makes me appreciate other people than white only.

But I do care how the countries treat young people and SK is pretty bad and need to treat people better to succeed with Hallyu.

Marketing is great - but in the end people leave if you don’t spend any money on treating your staff/people great.

I mean - at one point fans are gonna say enough…and move on.

I don't find the strict sk standard visuals attractive tbh. The monotony is so bad that even the sk gp can't tell visuals apart from the rest of the group. In the kpop industry visuals kinda live and die by the hype of the fandoms they feed. Its a bubble, very few break out from that mould and are actually found to be attractive to both western and Eastern beauty standards. Those are the ones that catch my eye..like most visuals can't be told apart from the rest of the group but are mediaplayed as the top visual like it works for kpop fans ig but it doesn't work for me lol.

Its different for everyone. Some people like a certain look whereas others might be sick of it.

It's a matter of personal taste and beauty standards.

Now if it is overrated in comparison to what? The way people talk about it? Korean beauty is part of cultural export. If this is what you are touching about, maybe like everything that gets popular and spoken about.

Now talking about visuals in idol groups, maybe people have problem with how it is marketed. Like some idols are marked as visual. It can be head scratching. However, it not unique to Kpop. What it is unique about Kpop is how it is systematically marketed. Personally I find some idols are overrated as a symbol of Korean beauty standard. There are lot of underrated/overlooked idols just because they don't fit that standard.

Personally maybe East Asian in general is overrated using the same metric when talking about such a vast region and Southeast, Central, and South Asian beauty are underrated or overlooked.

I don't get the obsession with looks, at all. That's one of the things I dislike the most about kpop, hyping someone up just because he/she is beautiful, that's so childish and immature. When I hear the term "actor visual" I want to stab myself in the eye. What is an "actor visual"??? I'm european, and I LOVE movies, but I have never seen a movie because I think the actor/actress is hot. Never. I watch their movie because I like their acting, I don't care how they look. This focus on the visual is the main reason people make fun of kpop fans, and I don't really blame them. Let's be honest, most idols, and idol actors are only in this business because of their looks. Don't tell me you watch Yoona or Cha Eun Woo for their talent, they have none!

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I don't get the obsession with looks, at all. That's one of the things I dislike the most about kpop, hyping someone up just because he/she is beautiful, that's so childish and immature. When I hear the term "actor visual" I want to stab myself in the eye. What is an "actor visual"??? I'm european, and I LOVE movies, but I have never seen a movie because I think the actor/actress is hot. Never. I watch their movie because I like their acting, I don't care how they look. This focus on the visual is the main reason people make fun of kpop fans, and I don't really blame them. Let's be honest, most idols, and idol actors are only in this business because of their looks. Don't tell me you watch Yoona or Cha Eun Woo for their talent, they have none!

? The emphasis, exploitation and highlighting of looks and visuals has been a thing in Western pop culture and media culture long, long before it became a thing in Asian regions, with the dawn of advertising in the US and the dawn of the movie industry.

There have been massive piles of essays and articles that dive deep into the superficial obsession on beauty in the movie, advertisement, television, pop music business and other entertainment fields as launched and distributed in and from the West.

Focus on visual isn't the main reason people make fun of kpop fans - because that would be extremely hypocritical and short-sighted, considering the American and Western history and longterm obsession with it for the past century.

People make fun of kpop and kpop fans because it's not an American mainstream pastime, but from Asia. So a number of American/Western people do what they always do with stuff that isn't theirs but comes from elsewhere - they highlight everything that's different from what they know, and question it, make fun of it, ridicule it, belittle it and so on.

Like boys wearing make up. Like boys looking feminine and not super masculine. Like large groups. Like boys and girls acting cute. Like singing in a non-English language (how dare they!). Like synchronised choreo in an MV or performance. And on and on and on.

Mostly, certain groups of people will mock the K-pop scene and fans of it, because it's not American nor Western but coming from Asia and it's different.

Just like some people will love it for that difference, there'll also be some groups of people that'll hate and dislike it for those differences.

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I prefer Korea visually. When I watched a Japanese drama, they didn't look visually impressive. Then when I switched from Japanese drama to Korean drama, all Koreans all looked handsome and beautiful for a moment. 

I thought the same but when I went to Japan, their visuals popped out . Their style also made their appearance 100% better.

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I'm Thai and a fan of Thai idols, but honestly speaking - none of them would've made it in the Thai entertainment industry based on their looks. There are much better looking Thai celebrities in the country (both pure Thai & mixed), heck there's probably at least 10 better looking people in my school alone.

Totally agree.. so many beautiful people in Thailand

Yes. The mix multicultural environments can pick up better gene to their children generation after generation. It's science.

Chinese visuals are the best!!!! Watch idols and actresses from China they are more outstanding in the face, their Korean counterparts are very plain compared to them.

But Japanese people have a better look on an average because I have been to these two countries if Japanese people employed Korean makeup, their impact will be greater because their beauty is more natural

Korean beauties are just more popular because they have the biggest international following in case you don’t know , popularity= visuals in the entertainment industry even if you’re not that pretty your popularity will make you pretty .

bottom line, each countries have their amazing set of beauties so it boils down to preferences

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Chinese visuals are the best!!!! Watch idols and actresses from China they are more outstanding in the face, their Korean counterparts are very plain compared to them.

But Japanese people have a better look on an average because I have been to these two countries if Japanese people employed Korean makeup, their impact will be greater because their beauty is more natural

Korean beauties are just more popular because they have the biggest international following in case you don’t know , popularity= visuals in the entertainment industry even if you’re not that pretty your popularity will make you pretty .

bottom line, each countries have their amazing set of beauties so it boils down to preferences

Lay, Jackson Wang… many more Chinese🤪

From what i have seen Chinese visuals are the best in Asia but I don't find most of their dramas or idol industry interesting.

this is from 2016 lol

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good looking people will always be considered good looking anywhere, it doesn't matter lol

the only reason kpop stans don't talk about beauties from other countries is because they don't know about them, and kpop is worldwide more popular.

Imo chinese and japanese men are more attractive than korean guys overall, tho.

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