You can happily praise whoever you want for whatever reason...I've never said anything about that? I've not said 1 word about modelling at all...not one word saying you can't praise your faves, not 1 word to insult your faves...what does this have to do with me?
I'm just saying it's stupid to put others down while bigging up your faves.
It's not you who said about modelling. Some other thoughts model was dragged but it's really part of idol jobs. There's nothing wrong about working as model.
Well I'm just going to leave it at that. I really don't see any reason to continue.
I'm not disputing or disrespecting any groups popularity or position as an idol. I've said nothing of the sorts on either point. I'm just telling you there's no need to disrespect groups by making outlandish and untrue claims. That's it.
If someone praise Blackpink model career i can praise others lips syncing talented too cause it's part of their jobs.
Once again you fail at basic reading. Saying 'make more money' than someones whole career isn't the same as saying who has higher income. I don't blame you for switching the goal post since I blew your original statement away and exposed how untrue it was forcing the switch. It's expected.
Second you fail to understand that Forbes and Forbes Korea are not the same thing or affiliated. You can't use actual Forbes to legitimize when it's published by the JoongAng Group, not Forbes.
First people need to learn about meaning of idol. Idols isn't just singer.
Second albums sell say nothing about their success and popularity.
You do not even know my favorite, so why should I take lip synching as praise?
All I said was, I don't mind lip synching when performing choreography. Which idols do.
I dislike lip synching by singers, that's dishonest.
As to fame, as I said nowadays fame can come without substance.
Though BP girls are capable of substance, their business model doesn't care.
Anyway there is no convincing the emotionally invested.
Everybody to their tastes.
If you don't mind lips syncing it's good for you but most people take it seriously.
Like i said i will take professional model as prise cause i know many idols try to achieve it but no one give them attention.
Sure thing, you're talking about income vs earning more. Like I said, alon in Japan based on actual reliable numbers from a reputable company(Oricon) we can see that's not true. Also BTS Forbes Korea, isn't affiliated with Forbes and hasn't been for years lol. So no Forbes doesn't say shit.
You're pressed, we get it. But you don't have to come in here and start disrespecting other groups, especially when peddling nothing of value beyond the advertisement of your own biases.
This is show how your education work since you to denied trustable source like Forbes with you empty words.
classic sign of poor debating is,
#1. you don't know, you don't understand
#2. Lot of others think so.
And the inconsistency shows in the response, first line mentions 'idol' and then talks about singers.
If those are one and the same, there would not be 2 separate professional categories.
Sure lip synch is despicable by singers.
But idols.. meh.
In any case you have already declared that BP's main job is being CF models, not idols or singers.
So go buy their endorsed products and make them rich.
That's the extent of their success.
Kardashians of Koop (according to you)
first idol culture was originated in Japan not South Korea idols can does many different jobs include sing photoshoot act or just promote some local product like seller.
I will take professional model as prise. You should take lips syncer as praise too.
We all know who's more popular and successful
A laughable and embarrassing claim. Twice made(officially from Oricon) 80 million Euro in album sales alone in Japan between 2017 and 2019, don't delude yourself into to thinking any and all of their CF's touch that...just albums in 1 country for 3 years. They made 29.5M Euro in 2020, only CD sales on Oricon lol.
Forbes prove otherwise. I know one cf for b lackpink can easily worth millions buck or more and they've no cost for it work unlike production albums that cost half of theiriincome
Those are two difference things.
You shouldn't have boasted about BP's CF earnings as an excuse.
As to lip synch, only fools will expect idols don't lip synch/auto tune, while performing active choreography. That only aespa's-ae members can do.Not human beings.
As mentioned, it is not idols vocal abilities that is the product, but their "packaged life".
If it is vocal abilities, then there are many known and less famous people who are far more capable than BP, Twice etc.
That's why there is a difference between calling some idols and others as singers.
They are overlapping professions, but vocal expertise is required for singers, not that critical for idols.
They just need to be better than the average in singing, dancing, looks, rest is all packaging and promotions.
Don't let your emotional investment in BP, override reasoning.
I enjoy BP, but am not expecting vocal phenomena from them.
Maybe yu don't know what Idol really are. You shouldn't bragging about albums sell if you adore lips syncer not singer. They're not many singers who get praise by lips sync from knetz . I remember how top news articles was flooded by their lips sync performance.
Maybe, yet that BP's 'quality' discography is lacking in quantity for the number of years and fame, is a fact.
The legacy of artists is built by a portfolio of work and not by CFs.
As a BP fan, aren't you unhappy with the lack of comebacks?
Or do you blame it on the company to satisfy yourselves?
Now they are all starting solo careers, effectively that means even less chances of BP content.
The most famous group with least body of work.
Is not something to be proud of.
Most Blinks love to hea more quality music from Blackpink not going to listen someone lips syncing cheap produce songs.
That makes them professional models and not singers-idols.
That precisely is the issue with BP - lack of discography to substantiate their fans, making them some sort of Kardashians, famous for being famous, rather than art.
But I don't blame the individual members, they definitely have the skills to produce content, they have proven that.
But the nature of most industries have changed, instead of some glamour built on more substance, nowadays you could have careers with less substance and more froth.
YG-BP has been smart to leverage that.
Song making is less profitable and more work, than endorsements and advertisement.
So CF, social media etc will do.
After all idols aren't selling art, art is an excuse, packaging, what they are selling is a 'Truman Show' of their beauty, luxury, charmed life.
All idols, even actors, artists can't escape that. Just that the extent varies and within the top tier of koop, BP has the worst substance to fame ratio.
So flaunting that they make more money out of CF is rather unfortunate.
While some professional lips syncer can't release a quality music like Blackpink does.