I don't know if this is just me but while I seen people talk about ILLITs success due to Magnetic I've rarely seen people talk about the members, concept, and just the group in general beyond achievements. I've been in multiple kpop community sites and it feels like no one is talking about the ILLIT members or even Magnetic as a song, just its achievements. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they're flops or anything I was just wondering if anyone else was having the same experience.
Despite Magnetics success, ILLIT as a group don't seem very popular
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That's kinda my view on them too. I LOVE Magnetic and have been listening to it nonstop but I just havent been able to get into ILLIT the way I was able to get into Twice and NewJeans.
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To be fair, I don't pay attention to them, so It doesn't say much. But If even who listens to them has this perception then probably you are correct
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Maybe that's the issue. They have good music, but the members of ILLIT don't have the same pull that the NewJeans or Twice members have(to me anyways).
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The members are not interesting enough to pull me and be curious about them
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Idk, i've seen a decent amount of discussion about the song and concept. Members themselves aren't so big but they just debuted
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Only the girl moka seems to gain some attention surprised because wonhee was hyped (not for good reason but she’s cute so I expected her to trend in Korea)
Tbh they’re like Kepler, ditching the contestants that they were the most popular was a bad move but at least Kepler has strong lineup illit is pretty much faceless and is carrying by their music.
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I get lots of updates from Kpop TW. What i've seen repeatedly with respect to individual members:
1. Fans defending Yunah from apparent hate due to her looking older than her members and not fitting in to concept
2. Fans wondering why Moka isnt being pushed as the center and visual, and some slight shade against Wonhee
3. Nobody ever mentioning Rohan or whatever her name is
4. M**j* not ever standing out yet her akgaes going nutz
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Same was said to NJ that they don't know the members, only the group name and the songs
I...don't think this was ever said, other than when they first debuted and literally nobody knew who they were.
At the very least, Korea obsessed over Minji and Haerin right away, ifans obsessed over Hanni, and Danielle to a lesser extent, and haters obsessed over Hyein's age.
Once they debuted, people pretty quickly realized Minji and Hanni were in the Permission to Dance MV, and people also found out that both Hyein and Danielle were child stars with multiple clips up on YT. There was little known about Haerin, but that added to her mystique.
That said, and this is more towards the OP, ILLIT was formed from a survival competition show, so they definitely have at least somewhat of a core fandom that has followed them from the first episode of that show.
I would've watched it, but everyone here and on reddit kept saying it was bad
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I haven't even heard their song yet
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Sadly no. When Newjeans debut, almost half of the hot topics in every Korean social media platforms are about the members. EVERYDAY. It went on for like 2-3 weeks. Illit have the stream numbers but never have 1/10 the same cultural impact Newjeans had. Like Korea totally crazy about them at that time especially Minji who suddenly took the next "national first love" crown just days after their debut. You just can not compare.
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It hasn't even been a month
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I haven't even heard their song yet
then what do you want?
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The song is viral, the girls not really.
I think Moka went viral with her fancams on twitter, she is the only name I remember too.
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I haven't even heard their song yet
You will live, trust me. I heard it few times and I forgot it immediately
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lies
Minji and hanni was already known before debut
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lies
Minji and hanni was already known before debut
they only knew Minji
Hanni's name is not even known correctly.
People assume her name is Cherry and not Vietnamese
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We're really having this discourse over a group who just became elligible for music show wins this week?
Like I don't know what y'all expect, most people aren't gonna ve particularly heavy in the person discussion for a group.
Only reason Ive and LSF had it out the gate was cause they came from Produce and had big names to zero in on.
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Do you know when the Iland gals are debuting?
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I...don't think this was ever said, other than when they first debuted and literally nobody knew who they were.
At the very least, Korea obsessed over Minji and Haerin right away, ifans obsessed over Hanni, and Danielle to a lesser extent, and haters obsessed over Hyein's age.
Once they debuted, people pretty quickly realized Minji and Hanni were in the Permission to Dance MV, and people also found out that both Hyein and Danielle were child stars with multiple clips up on YT. There was little known about Haerin, but that added to her mystique.
That said, and this is more towards the OP, ILLIT was formed from a survival competition show, so they definitely have at least somewhat of a core fandom that has followed them from the first episode of that show.
I would've watched it, but everyone here and on reddit kept saying it was bad
Sadly no. When Newjeans debut, almost half of the hot topics in every Korean social media platforms are about the members. EVERYDAY. It went on for like 2-3 weeks. Illit have the stream numbers but never have 1/10 the same cultural impact Newjeans had. Like Korea totally crazy about them at that time especially Minji who suddenly took the next "national first love" crown just days after their debut. You just can not compare.
People love to re-write history, but there were several trending topics about the members themselves since Day 1
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nobody can rewrite anything. Cultural reset is something you only see once per gen.
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3. Nobody ever mentioning Rohan or whatever her name is
I assume you mean Iroha. She's their best dancer. Cute/innocent concept is not her strenght
M**j* not ever standing out yet her akgaes going nutz
I believe with proper promotion she'll blow up in Korea. People seems like her and praise her. She not my fav but believe me, she has potential to be named as one of 5th gen visual idol.
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We're really having this discourse over a group who just became elligible for music show wins this week?
Like I don't know what y'all expect, most people aren't gonna ve particularly heavy in the person discussion for a group.
Only reason Ive and LSF had it out the gate was cause they came from Produce and had big names to zero in on.
R u saying other ggs didn't have members trending except ive and lsf? Because that's not true at all. Nj, aespa, nmixx, itzy all had members getting attention from the very beginning. If anything it's expected from a big4 group.
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nj is same, in a lesser level lsfrm follow the same path
biggest hits 4th gen has seen? yes
but who is the most popular member from a 4th gen gg? wj, there is karina, there is winter
its not a nj member, like damn kazuha has a dating scandal and flies make more noise
smth that never happen in pass gens, bp was the most popular gg, the most popular gg member was jennie or lisa, before that it was snsd with yoona in everybody soup follow by taeyeon who is still insanely popular
idk blame hybe, they have this thing were the group is huge and then their members are ehhh
except for jk
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people had the exact same complaint about NJ and look at them now, so I'd say give them time. But yes, rn, people love the song more and that's fine. It's closer to how 50-50 were received actually
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- It hasn't been a month
- Magnetic got viral even before their official debut so it means song > group now
- Their styling is horrible and doesn't fit some of the members, I'm sorry but it has to be said
- The group doesn't have the IT factor YET except their catchy song/music. I'm saying this because as some who watched their survival show, this concept doesn't suit them and really limits most members' best potentials except that stiff girl Wonhee. That's why their performances don't look impressive compared to the rest of Hybe groups.
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The participants are not at all charismatic, boring and plastic. When I watch a video with them, I get the feeling that they are just mannequins without emotions. Compared to NJ, they are mediocre, it is not surprising that at the conference journalists spoke negatively about them, saying that they answered questions insincerely and read out memorized phrases.
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Same as 50/50 I guess?
People like the song but don't know anything about them
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Same as 50/50 I guess?
People like the song but don't know anything about them
and brave girls
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and brave girls
True, though for me that was mostly from that video that was posted, so we could at least see the members.
Magnetic I have only listened to on Spotify.
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For them they are trending, and you cannot trend forever.
They need to convert all the trend stans following them now into real fans, when they watch their content. I'm not a fan, and just checked out a bit of their content just to assess their long term prospects, and I can say they seem to have personalities, are fun and are not 100% fake. So it looks as if they will build up a fanbase fairly easily.
There are other 4th gen groups that were trending previously and they had their chance when they were trending, but were boring af. That's why certain groups that are boring af are declining now.
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Get what you mean but it's normal when they have just one song and one hit.
Fifty fifty despite not having just one song, were known for their song only too.
If we take NewJeans as an example, they got 4 songs including 2 hits during debut so they "were" more than a song.
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