good tea, as long as they keep releasing good music either it's fine 👍
this remains my official position even now
Posts by KpopJop
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Dragging rival groups and punching down from CEO to artist level is never okay, simple
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massive bop, both artists feature so well, it's a true collab
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I am planning on buying it when my current shampoo runs out!!! def have not forgotten, tysm
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Talking about court…her hesitation to surrender her laptop, it’s not entirely surprising to me. While there may indeed be potentially incriminating information on it, there could also be documents that could damage Hybe’s reputation or at least be detrimental.
There also might be an extra factor: MHJ's paranoia that future ideas for NJ and ADOR stored on the laptop might be taken by HYBE - sketches and moodboards and demos and all sorts of valuable creative assets
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any news since Bubblegum MV dropped?
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Having to play the MV reminds me of that long time with Attention, Hype Boy and Hurt MVs before the 1st EP dropped digitally
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wait a month (when the TT drops with it, this is a b-side)
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But I’m firm in the stance that she’s not a good fit for CEO. Those leadership skills are not a good match for the youth, talent and value she’s been entrusted with.
quoting myself cause i have one further thought on this: it's really sad that MHJ wasn't fortunate enough to have that one business partner that could complement all of her creativity through her whole career. NOT a mentor, but a true equal.
There are so many famous artist-businessperson combos, and they're really strong because having a single person be great at BOTH is rare:
- Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak
- Comme Des Garcon's Rei Kawakubo and Adrian Joffe
- Gertrude Stein with Hemingway, also Picasso
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i love their b-sides, i want more more b-sides
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HYBE, swapping big money for (maybe) artist protection? Poor odds on that trade
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She does say she has contacts and investors,
Yes but every step she takes in that mode jeopardises her legal case - i don’t see it as a realistic path to power this time. Any power she draws from outside HYBE can be used against her.
The exception is public opinion, which is non-committal (double edged sword)
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I feel bad for her in the sense that she actually is desperate, flailing in front of the world, and that appears to be grieving her creative career in real time. I’m not a monster like that.
But I’m firm in the stance that she’s not a good fit for CEO. Those leadership skills are not a good match for the youth, talent and value she’s been entrusted with.
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agreed. Martyrdom is a fragile advantage. All it takes is one horrible event coming from an underling to totally shift her power-balance strategy
She has the online public’s positive comments - which is non-committal. The money, the manpower, the data, the contracts, are all on the other side. Poor odds
ie.
Martyrdom is one path to power, but only power is power.
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god this might be my favourite set of covers yet
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It's just my conclusion based on over a decade of observing how these watershed moments in K-Pop tend to play out.
As far as I know, we're all international fans, so we're kind of on the outside looking in on how this matter is being parsed and interpreted in Korea, but the prevailing sentiment seems to be overwhelming support for MHJ regardless of the outcome of her war with Hybe.
Hopefully I'm allowed to acknowledge this fact without being accused of being a "shooter" or "Team MHJ", as this is just my read of how things have played out.
I think the giant boulder at the top of the hill has finally started to roll down one side, and it's too far gone to try to push it back up the hill and roll it down the other side.
So I return to the perspective of a shareholder: NewJeans' image SOMEHOW is at an all-time high right now, even by their standards, and MHJ's public image in Korea, especially if more creatives show support publicly, will never be stronger after what will be remembered as one of the legendary events in the history of K-Pop (that conference). Fragile egos and posturing aside, there is an easy money move to make here that can benefit all parties.
still disagree, the looming criminal process, where I assume lots of evidence can be presented, is a huge X factor
to say that MHJ is an untouchable martyr is too soon, the ink is not dry
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very early call, it doesn’t take much to swing the vote on someone like MHJ
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It's interesting you theorise that NPD is possibly overrepresented in the music business (which is possibly backed by research).
In the corporate world, it is theorised that 4 - 12% of corporate CEO's and high level senior managers exhibit psychopathic traits (not to be confused with psychotic traits or "Hollywood psychopathy"), according to some expert estimates, many times more than the 1% rate found in the general population.
So the entertainment industry is an interesting one in which theres an element that has NPD overrepresentation and an elements that has overrepresentation of psychopathic traits. Both can be very difficult, challenging types to work. But imagine then an NPD person butting up against one with psychopathic traits?
From what I have read on a cursory look at it all, NPD types struggle (and ultimately lose) against psychopathic types because the typical NPD traits of emotional manipulation, deception, emotionality etc just straight up don't work on the unfazed psychopath who lack emotional empathy, while still being manipulative and cunning with a need to be in control. Which leads to a spiral for the NPD type, who gets more extreme in behaviour as their control falters.
What/who does that sound like?
I’m just saying man, the clash of psyches here truly is just the worst of the art world and the world of commerce. Both pyramids have a lot of personality issues at the top
