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It's been 7 months since Get Up and if the rumor about them coming back in April is correct then it'll be a 9 month hiatus. What exactly is ADOR doing that'll put NewJeans on hiatus for more then half a year.
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This post is the best example I can find in here of just how disconnected perception of how songs like TT and Cheer Up performed in Korea versus western perception in the Kpop fandom. They were big hits, but not in any way the same way Ditto was.
For reference, as of the last week , Ditto was #28 on Melon Daily and #21 on Circle Weekly. This is after well over a year (Really 14 months) since release.
For comparison, 1 year after release, Cheer Up was at 77 on Gaon/Circle Weekly and TT was not even charting at all anymore. This is in line with say, how HYLT by Blackpink performed, 1 year after release it was at 69 on the same chart.
We keep going through this because either people aren't reading the data being presented or are just going by what they personally liked better. Because really, there is a very strong argument that Ditto is the single most successful single track in the history of Kpop dating back to the 90's, but perception amongst people in the west is that it is just one of many successful songs.
Quick question but what song would you consider to be bigger, TT or Super Shy?
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OMG THIS IS HUGE
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NewJeans are rumored to come back in March and based on IU's previous release pattern her main single will also likely come in March. IU will outchart NewJeans obviously, but if they can score a hit while going up against her that would be huge. If memory serves me right the last girl group to go against IU and hold their own incredibly well was Twice in 2018. If NewJeans can get a hit or even go number 1 against IU that cements their place(on top of their countless achievements of course) as the top 4th gen girl group.
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The fact they tried the triple title track promotion strategy and it flopped compared to what others have accomplished. More importantly, Baddie is nowhere near the hit I Am was. I need to be convinced they can score another hit as big as I Am or Love Dive.
Both of those songs are national hits. Baddie was not.
We'll see on their next comeback. I could be wrong.
I see how you came to that conclusion, but I politely disagree. IVE are still incredibly popular despite Baddie flopping. And Baddie being a flop was more on Starship for choosing a bad title and promoting it very messily rather than IVE's popularity. If they come back with a general public friendly song they could get another Love Dive or I AM sized hit.
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Interesting take. I thought IVE peaked with Love Dive but then they released I AM, which is undoubtedly there biggest hit. Genuinely asking, what makes you think IVE have already peaked?
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The NewJeans debut is easily the biggest debut by a girl group in K-Pop history.
Don't do this to Itzy. They're not even top 3.
A song (Hype Boy) from NewJeans' debut album (2022) was the second biggest song on both Circle and Melon in 2023, and the only reason it wasn't the top song is because it was blocked by another song (Ditto) from their debut year LOL
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Really? Which girl group debuts do you put in the top 3?
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I'm talking both debut song and debut era. Which song was bigger AND which group was bigger at debut.
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Saying average dancing with the footwork NewJeans have to do is crazy
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I was giving an example, that “having fun” on stage isn’t some unique concept. Idols are performers and im sure 99% of them, would be able to pull it off.
My point was, it depends on concept. A song like Savage, Pink Venom, Queencard etc etc, aren’t songs that it would make sure to perform like that.
I like NJ music, but to act like they are groundbreaking or particularly unique in their ability to fake chemistry/fun on stage is ludicrous.
Have any GG go through the process of being coached and learn choreography of NJ and there would be little difference.
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Just show how delusional you are. Those same groups you think (again literally any group) who you think have “chemistry of a rock” could do their job well enough to make you believe they have chemistry just like NJ.
Idols are actors & performers, and you just eating it up like sheep. You can praise them, but let’s not act like it’s some unique quality besides a good concept/aesthetic
Actors have to do chemistry reads before casting to make thier compatible with each other for thier roles but okay go off I guess. You don't just walk on stage or on set and are compatible with everyone, no matter how good of an actor you are.
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Yep. There are some groups I can think of whose choreography is focused on highlighting the individuality of the members or just serving as visual stimulation while the group performs their songs(neither of which is a bad thing). NewJeans choreo relies on group chemistry because it has playful little interactions that only work if the group looks like they're having fun with each other( the intro and high five in Hybe Boy, the arm link and dance break in OMG, the end of ETA, etc.)
Another point I forgot to mention is how NewJeans choreo uses a lot more blocking compared to other girl group choreos. They move around the stage a lot in these little scenes( think the intro to hype boy, dance break in OMG, and the "I'm looking for candy baby" line in Attention as the best examples of this.) These scenes are made specifically to emulate teen girls having fun and will fall flat if the performers don't do exactly that, have fun.