Chuu's case made me see how a big part of kpop fans will side with the company no matter what.

there are people siding with BBC

not really surprised that a company called bbc knows nothing except to screw people

honestly chuu didn't do anything wrong in my eyes from the stuff that was translated. since when was being sassy and fighting for yourself a crime? she didn't even say anything that bad in those texts. like, who was abusing who... they were literally ignoring her messages and then attempted to gaslight her by making her out to be the bad guy.

loona did so much work and none of the members have any money to show for it. thats the concerning part to me. who gives a fuck about chuu's "mean" texts.

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Oh please... Even here in akp

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there are people siding with BBC

Your kidding right???

dont know anyone siding with BBC

people are like both sides are wrong bc she was rude

Like fudge she was in a contract that the more she worked, the bigger her debts got. Like that's illegal??????

Put yourself in her shoes, Like plzzzz

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there are people siding with BBC

Someone literally here in akp said Chuu is not the poor victim we thought she is and she's as messed up as bbc just because the chats. She not even swearing to her managers and company after all the shit they gave her. And just because she left the set for her solo schedule that she planned earlier and bbc purposely delayed the shooting because they mad at her. She even wait for couple of hours with the members before left because she was done with bbc bullshit. And that just in Akp, there might more in other platforms.

So, yup some stupid people do siding with bbc just because Chuu showing her human side to them. They must thought that these idols are just a robot that will smile to them 24/7. Saying chuu as bad as bbc equal to siding them too, lol.

Company stans are weird regardless of the circumstances

I didn't even bother to read that article because I knew from the headline alone "there is no single victim in this situation" that dispatch was full of shit.

No matter what, we are talking about a single young girl against a whole ass company. No matter what, the power disparity is in the favor of that company, and the facts of the matter is that that company has been taking advantage of her wages which is doubly worse because of how hard idols have to work.

So what if she was being angry and not using a nice tone? If my job robbed and took advantage of me I wouldn't be speaking politely either. The thing about Kpop is that this industry has truly managed to make it hard for idols to be human and express themselves as such. A reaction that would be normal by any other standard is now being used to paint Chuu as if she is a horrible person all because of idol image. Nevermind the fact that almost all of the rest of Loona members obviously agree with her too and are seeking to get out of their contracts.

And who’s siding with bbc. Literally orbits are boycotting this cb.

They have a terrible expense/income split ratio. Each comeback the girls seem to go to more debt.

i havent seen a single person siding with bbc. are you sure youre not just being mad to be mad?

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i havent seen a single person siding with bbc. are you sure youre not just being mad to be mad?

I think some people in another thread were blaming her for being "rude" in her texts and saying both sides were at fault.

I knew it would happen lol, i knew some folks would blame her for her "harsh" word choice.

That article sure didn’t do what BBC wanted it to do.

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I think some people in another thread were blaming her for being "rude" in her texts and saying both sides were at fault.

I knew it would happen lol, i knew some folks would blame her for her "harsh" word choice.

i think its dumb the fans automatically defend her bc of what they see on camera but then usually theyre the ones to attack idols that get into similar scandals saying "believe the victim" but i dont see any hate towards chuu.. at least not enough to make a thread about

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The fact that you are more worried about me making a thread instead of actually caring enough to see how Loona/Chuu were/are treated badly says enough to me.

yes bc someone likes to read too much into things and take things to heart lol

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Unfortunately nope...

God...

Most people always hate on companies over their faves.

If anything goes wrong it was the companies flout.

If anything goes right, it was because our faves did it.

So is surprising that people think that fans may side with a company.

Maybe people that already hated on Chuu will do it. Most people will take Chuu's side.

The reactions of some to Chuu standing out for herself is baffling to say the least. She is right and I actually admire her for her bravery.

and i thought it was the opposite kpop fans villanize companies as if their idol never do wrong.

Since everyone seems to agree with OP's perspective, so I'll put another perspective. I'd assume the reason why some people think what Chuu, or her mother did was 'ungraceful':

1. Chuu already won the battle when the court sided with her, what Chuu was doing after that was just revenge.

2. Her revenge put her members in an awkward position.
3. She said that she agreed to sign another contract for the sake of the group, but her action said otherwise. She seems to not have that much interest in doing group activities.

4. Some people feel bad for Team Leader B. They got caught in the crossfire between Chuu and BBC.

This is just an observation; I don't necessarily agree with what I wrote above.

It was not just rude words, she fined them $50M won damages ($39,397) for a MV delay which was in no one's control, saying it was not just for that delay but for multiple past problems with schedules. That was obviously nothing compared to the amount of money she was scammed out of but 2 wrongs don't make a right

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Chuu had a schedule the next day and they knew it. It wasn't her fault that the MV filming was delayed neither could she do much bc she did stay more hours, but should she sacrifice herself to the point of maybe even fainting in the next schedule bc of lack of sleep? And omg, she made them pay her what was according to the law AND in her new contract!! Omg!!

She wasn't "just" scammed, are we kidding ourselves here? Do we not know how much idols work, the many days without sleep, without eating properly? She went through everything without getting paid, the stress was there, the anxiety was there, the sadness of betrayal was there, this isn't just a scam, they literally put Loona in a slave contract so no, 2 wrongs don't do a right and Chuu now demanding to be treated right doesn't make BBC a poor thing.

Oh I forgot about how she still stayed for as long as possible

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It was not just rude words, she fined them $50M won damages ($39,397) for a MV delay which was in no one's control, saying it was not just for that delay but for multiple past problems with schedules. That was obviously nothing compared to the amount of money she was scammed out of but 2 wrongs don't make a right

Why is that considered a wrong? If a doctor's office has a $100 cancellation fee if you fail to show up on time and you get stuck behind a traffic accident that is "in no one's control", they will still charge you the cancellation fee. I'm sure if Chuu missed a cf schedule for whatever reason, even if it was her company holding her up, she'd have to pay damages for that too, and it wouldn't be "wrong" for the cf company to demand that.

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Why is that considered a wrong? If a doctor's office has a $100 cancellation fee if you fail to show up on time and you get stuck behind a traffic accident that is "in no one's control", they will still charge you the cancellation fee. I'm sure if Chuu missed a cf schedule for whatever reason, even if it was her company holding her up, she'd have to pay damages for that too, and it wouldn't be "wrong" for the cf company to demand that.

Actually that's right I just thought it's a pretty big fee, so, if it was really out of anyone's control that would just not be nice, like if the doctor's cancellation was a really high fee. But okay

if company doesn't pay you you can be rude lol

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Since everyone seems to agree with OP's perspective, so I'll put another perspective. I'd assume the reason why some people think what Chuu, or her mother did was 'ungraceful':

1. Chuu already won the battle when the court sided with her, what Chuu was doing after that was just revenge.

2. Her revenge put her members in an awkward position.
3. She said that she agreed to sign another contract for the sake of the group, but her action said otherwise. She seems to not have that much interest in doing group activities.

4. Some people feel bad for Team Leader B. They got caught in the crossfire between Chuu and BBC.

This is just an observation; I don't necessarily agree with what I wrote above.

For number 3, it wasn't her that was acting vendective but BBC

She gave them notice of her solo sched in advance and BBC repeatedly scheduled group stuff in conflict with her solo sched. The text that was revealed was the boiling point. She realized they never intended to change and just keep screwing her over.

As for managers, yeah they are middle man and get caught in cross fire.