Looking for a group with good/fair Line distribution? I'm thinking of groups like TWICE for example were they try to squeeze in 9 members in under 3 minutes and the same 3 members (at least from my observation) get shafted every MV (poor Jeongyeon)
I would say try to exclude groups of 4 and below as they seam to be quite balanced unless you have a real lopsided example.
But I hope there are larger groups out there were all the members get a fair crack of the whip.
with all the talks how some members are more pushed i think IVE has good line distribution across their "very large" discography lol, Gaeul should get a bit more but is decent overall
Itzy is another group with good line distribution from what i saw, G-idle wasn't fair because of Shuhua lines but it become pretty well since Soojin left and Shuhua took her lines + their last album was also good
But this are all small groups, in general in groups over 7 members somebody is gonna get less, i did heard that lately Seventeen has a pretty fair line distribution, i don't follow them so idk if is true
I dont think equal line distribution means fair line distribution..now im not saying a member should only get adlibs or something like that but it wouldnt be fair for a sub vocalist to have the same amount of lines as a main vocal, neither would it make sense. And it's okay if different members shine in different songs, some vocal colors fit different genres better.
Also it is obviously a lot more difficult to balance when it comes to bigger groups..
I dont think equal line distribution means fair line distribution..now im not saying a member should only get adlibs or something like that but it wouldnt be fair for a sub vocalist to have the same amount of lines as a main vocal, neither would it make sense. And it's okay if different members shine in different songs, some vocal colors fit different genres better.
Also it is obviously a lot more difficult to balance when it comes to bigger groups..
It would be interesting to hear from an Orbit, 12 members must be alot to balance
Not an Orbit, but definitely not Loona. Gowon and Vivi are lucky to get a line at all. Haseul, Choerry, Yeojin and Hyunjin on occasion get paid dust as well.
Heejin, Kim Lip and then to a lesser extent Chuu, Jinsoul and Yves get the lion's share of lines. Olivia doesn't get the most lines but seems to get a lot of the killing parts.
The groups that I think have relatively fair line distribution are Blackpink, Aespa, Red Velvet, New Jeans, NMixx and Itzy.
I dont believe in even line distribution. Songs are essentially like stories. You cant produce a movie giving every actor even screen time, each actor have their role in help telling the story. Likewise, songs are the same, members have certain role and sound to contribute.
Smaller groups have an easier time for obvious reasons. Less overlapping roles and just proportionally easier to distribute evenly
In fact, id argue trying to purposely force even distribution will hurt a song.
I haven't heard anyone mention this group in so long...
fair line distribution is the reason why many good songs are being ruined
I do not need to listen to Dahyun/Leeseo/Wonyoung/Yuna/Kazuha and so and so for too long, give the lines to those who can sing and let them be pretty in the center. There's no valid reason as to why Liz and her beautiful voice should not get any lines while WY and Leeseo stay assaulting my ears with their baby voice the whole chorus or screeching, trying to "sing" "hign notes". Yuna doesn't deserve any lines.
The same goes for bgs. Many of them can't sing which is why they're given rap positions - Jaemin, basically half of nct.
Yoona from snsd back then would get the easiest one line and would just dance prettily in the middle, but nowadays groups can't harmonize because only 1 or 2 members can sing. Also annoying fans will start a war if their precious member who can't sing deservedly don't get lines.
I dont believe in even line distribution. Songs are essentially like stories. You cant produce a movie giving every actor even screen time, each actor have their role in help telling the story. Likewise, songs are the same, members have certain role and sound to contribute.
Smaller groups have an easier time for obvious reasons. Less overlapping roles and just proportionally easier to distribute evenly
In fact, id argue trying to purposely force even distribution will hurt a song.
fair line distribution is the reason why many good songs are being ruined
I do not need to listen to Dahyun/Leeseo/Wonyoung/Yuna/Kazuha and so and so for too long, give the lines to those who can sing and let them be pretty in the center. There's no valid reason as to why Liz and her beautiful voice should not get any lines while WY and Leeseo stay assaulting my ears with their baby voice the whole chorus or screeching, trying to "sing" "hign notes". Yuna doesn't deserve any lines.
The same goes for bgs. Many of them can't sing which is why they're given rap positions - Jaemin, basically half of nct.
Yoona from snsd back then would get the easiest one line and would just dance prettily in the middle, but nowadays groups can't harmonize because only 1 or 2 members can sing. Also annoying fans will start a war if their precious member who can't sing deservedly don't get lines.
Ok, I will take your point on you don't need it in every song, but what about sharing the load per track? if
Girl A gets 30 seconds in Track A
Girl B gets 8 seconds in Track A
But in track B
Girl A gets 8 seconds in Track B
Girl B gets 30 seconds in Track B
Would that be fair? or do you think a members should stay at reduced lines/screen time for the duration of their girl group membership?
Display MoreOk, I will take your point on you don't need it in every song, but what about sharing the load per track? if
Girl A gets 30 seconds in Track A
Girl B gets 8 seconds in Track A
But in track B
Girl A gets 8 seconds in Track B
Girl B gets 30 seconds in Track B
Would that be fair? or do you think a members should stay at reduced lines/screen time for the duration of their girl group membership?
It depend on the song, like I said, songs have a story and purpose. There are ballads, there are more hip hop style songs, upbeat, sexy, rnb, etc.
In a heavy ballad song, I'd expect heavy line distribution to the main vocals and minimal from the rappers. Can you imagine trying to give the main rappers even line distribution in a ballad?
And it's more than just roles too. Each idol vocal color are more suited for certain styles. For example, Jihyo voice is amazing for jazz type songs. There aren't much jazz tracks from Twice but if there are, I'd expect more lines from her to effectively "tell the story"
Unless a group explores every genre to take full advantage for every members strengths, you likely won't find even distribution because most groups specialize in a sound and some members are just better suited for it. A good producer will never sacrifice their song for the sake of fairness
Unless a group explores every genre to take full advantage for every members strengths, you likely won't find even distribution because most groups specialize in a sound and some members are just better suited for it.
*Struggles to not mention Dreamcatcher*
But yea I see your point, I was just interested how people feel about it, in DC I was ok with Handong getting less lines because she often got soft memorable part.
But Shushu in Idle often just got shafted (until Lion and OMG where she got quite memorable part in each)
or for example Jieun of purple kiss who does not seam to get any screen time other then the odd glimpse and no real memorable parts and I feel sorry for the girl.. RBW/Cube make time in their videos for the other girls but the two I mentioned gets left out often (although I will admit I have not paid any attention to Idle since Soojins departure)
*Struggles to not mention Dreamcatcher*
But yea I see your point, I was just interested how people feel about it, in DC I was ok with Handong getting less lines because she often got soft memorable part.
But Shushu in Idle often just got shafted (until Lion and OMG where she got quite memorable part in each)
or for example Jieun of purple kiss who does not seam to get any screen time other then the odd glimpse and no real memorable parts and I feel sorry for the girl.. RBW/Cube make time in their videos for the other girls but the two I mentioned gets left out often (although I will admit I have not paid any attention to Idle since Soojins departure)
I totally get it from DC point of view too. Handong is least fluent in Korean and was the primary reason for her line distribution.
I think the best question to ask isn't should songs have even line distribution but instead should producers try to make songs that allows for even line distribution but even then the answer may still be similar producers should have a song in mind and the figure line distribution instead of figuring line distribution and then making a song for it but I think for the sake of fans, this could be a good idea for bsides.
Now I don't regularly look at line distribution but there ate probably songs which they have done that.
What is Love for example have fairly even distribution.
Don't go off the chart, the chart is counting Nayeons adlibs.
But notice the story for WIL is a telling of different pop culture love stories by each member so it's very purpose of the song calls for even line distribution from each member.
fair line distribution is the reason why many good songs are being ruined
I do not need to listen to Dahyun/Leeseo/Wonyoung/Yuna/Kazuha and so and so for too long, give the lines to those who can sing and let them be pretty in the center. There's no valid reason as to why Liz and her beautiful voice should not get any lines while WY and Leeseo stay assaulting my ears with their baby voice the whole chorus or screeching, trying to "sing" "hign notes". Yuna doesn't deserve any lines.
The same goes for bgs. Many of them can't sing which is why they're given rap positions - Jaemin, basically half of nct.
Yoona from snsd back then would get the easiest one line and would just dance prettily in the middle, but nowadays groups can't harmonize because only 1 or 2 members can sing. Also annoying fans will start a war if their precious member who can't sing deservedly don't get lines.
The main vocal might have better technique but does the Korean GP want to hear her sing or do they want their 4th gen IT GIRL to get the most lines and the most screentime? If you took the main vocal out of Ive, would Ive chart any differently? Now imagine Wonyoung quit Ive, how would Ive chart?
I think snsd's new album has a pretty good balance. It is not just about the time a member sings, but also about spotlight parts such as - depending on the song - high notes, raps, chorus lines, outstanding bridges
And obviously dance or visual focused members, just like centers will get additional spotlight in other ways
However, I don't enjoy the excuse "they are a dancer" for giving a member 5% of the album lines...
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