Billlie | 'RING X RING' M/V

  • it's not spreading misinformation

    even if you look at the fact that in april 2021 SM created SM Studios, and add to it that when you look at Billlie tracklist you can see names of foreign producers which are in SM sister company created by Lee Sooman, forgot name of company but I even did once a post here about them when there was that beef between NCT and TXT fans if I remember well? something about plagiarism whatever things.

  • it's not spreading misinformation

    even if you look at the fact that in april 2021 SM created SM Studios, and add to it that when you look at Billlie tracklist you can see names of foreign producers which are in SM sister company created by Lee Sooman

    and i'm gonna continue and say

    Ring x Ring is produce by Lee Minsu

    Lee minsu have nothing to do with SM '-'

    it's the same producer who work with Cho young chul (the ceo of Mystic story ) when he was still the head producer of Loen entertainement

    and he follow him to Mystic when he left Loen when they became Kakao M


    so you saying Sm had a thing to say in Billlie ring x ring sound is dumb

    because Kim Eana and Lee Minsu have been working for years together under loen ent , for IU, and brown eyed girls in the past

    none of the "foreign producer under SM sister company" even took part in the title track :pepefacepalm::pepefacepalm:



    the producer of Ekko music took part in only 2/6 songs

    and it's not like these producers were working only wih sm artist, they worked with itzy, twice, txt


    the rest of the producer are producer who worked with the CEO under Loen

    or producer who worked with nugu gg like Gwsn and rocket punch '-'

  • But you only talk about title track ok I get your point :) and I'm not saying that Lee Sooman himself is running around there and making creative decisions about concept or music, still we need bigger picture here and it's not like Mystic was making any money during corona time... they are too small for that.

    We can even extend that talk and look Taejin Son will release album in few days, not long ago he had MV duo with Wendy, that also wouldn't happen in this form if SM wouldn't allow it.


    Also to even expand it to whole KPOP, we already had situation like that not long ago when Bang Si Hyuk push more money into Source Music, was saying they are independent yet who do you think later on made all that changes which ended with GFriend disbandment, all staff members and security and even some office workers leaving as well? That was HYBE's decision for sure, not Source Music independent move.

    Some of those smaller companies would bankrupt asap if they wouldn't have financial support of big labels.

  • But you only talk about title track ok I get your point :) and I'm not saying that Lee Sooman himself is running around there and making creative decisions about concept or music, still we need bigger picture here and it's not like Mystic was making any money during corona time... they are too small for that.

    We can even extend that talk and look Taejin Son will release album in few days, not long ago he had MV duo with Wendy, that also wouldn't happen in this form if SM wouldn't allow it.


    Also to even expand it to whole KPOP, we already had situation like that not long ago when Bang Si Hyuk push more money into Source Music, was saying they are independent yet who do you think later on made all that changes which ended with GFriend disbandment, all staff members and security and even some office workers leaving as well? That was HYBE's decision for sure, not Source Music independent move.

    Some of those smaller companies would bankrupt asap if they wouldn't have financial support of big labels.

    omg i'm gonna repeat myself


    the producer of Ekko music took part in only 2/6 songs

    and it's not like these producers were working only wih sm artist, they worked with itzy, twice, txt


    the rest of the producer are producer who worked with the CEO under Loen

    or producer who worked with nugu gg like Gwsn and rocket punch '-'



    some of you need to stop acting like when a GG doesn't sound generic , it directly mean SM is doing something '-'

    this type of sound is becoming much more common and it fit with the image that the CEO is trying to give them


    and btw source was never independant from Hybe, Hybe himself produce for them, and he himself directed their concept, storyline and direction

    not the case between Mystic and SM '-'

    SM didn't make lovelyz make song like F(x) when woolim was under Sm entertainement, Infinite didn' become a EXO 2.0, they still kept doing the same sound they did before '-'

    so your whole argument doesn't make any sense

  • it's not spreading misinformation

    even if you look at the fact that in april 2021 SM created SM Studios, and add to it that when you look at Billlie tracklist you can see names of foreign producers which are in SM sister company created by Lee Sooman, forgot name of company but I even did once a post here about them when there was that beef between NCT and TXT fans if I remember well? something about plagiarism whatever things.

    The way I didn’t even know BILLIE was under a sm sub label until last week

    SM doesn’t even promote them or follow them I don’t understand the similarity at all expect for the experimental sound but again it’s way too different to Sm traditional sound

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  • The way I didn’t even know BILLIE was under a sm sub label until last week

    SM doesn’t even promote them or follow them I don’t understand the similarity at all expect for the experimental sound but again it’s way too different to Sm traditional sound

    because SM doesn't do anything with Mystic

    the only moment SM promote their subsidiary on their channel is if they are from all i know music like solhhee or Giant pink

  • That carol of the bells sound bite near the end though. :woow:


    Also that pulsating urgent synth throughout, it is definitely a trip and a half.


    The mixing really isn't the best but this is going to grow on people I think, it is one of those songs that your brain immediately rejects until it can pick out what is going on. Give it some spins away from youtube's even crappier compression. It has grown on me quite a bit already.

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    [DREAMCATCHER * PIXY * (G)I-DLE * EVERGLOW * BILLLIE]

  • ghostings

    :eyes:


    What you think? This song is more my style then yours.


    Personally I was surprised how unusual and weird this song was. But in a good way. It’s great to see a gg coming out with something unique like this. The trailers were so pretty and but muted coloured antis the attic scene, I was expecting something more girly.

    I’m gonna check out the rest of their songs when I have time but this going on my kpop playlist.

    :eyes:

  • it's not spreading misinformation

    even if you look at the fact that in april 2021 SM created SM Studios, and add to it that when you look at Billlie tracklist you can see names of foreign producers which are in SM sister company created by Lee Sooman, forgot name of company but I even did once a post here about them when there was that beef between NCT and TXT fans if I remember well? something about plagiarism whatever things.

    That company works with dozens of kpop artists though. I guess TXT, Enhypen, and Astro are also SM groups because they've worked with that company too. :suure:


    It's just a publishing house like JAM Factory where they play middleman between the songwriters/producers and the labels.

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