Posts by Alex_Murphy
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so this is what true love looks like
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People should just honk honk hit the klaxon.
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Gidle always doing this, haters must be tired afk
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What a fine group.
I haven't even listened to the song but I vote blop anyway.
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Gangnam Style, along with Baby Shark, is the greatest song ever. It paved the way for kpop to become a global success.
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The hotness melted my screen.
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Well, speaking of which, I just found out Nana was on King of Masked Singer today.
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Comeback scheduler (this filter is horrible)
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Yuqi is already a proven solo success, if only because of her massive popularity in China.
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I think Idle and Itzy serve as warnings for what can happen if your labels DONT succeed in doing this. Idle is on top of the world as a group, i think they're #1 right now, but the solos for Miyeon, Soyeon, and Yuqi all flopped to varying degrees because both fans and GP just didnt care about them the way they care for the group as a whole. I think Soyeon still has a 2nd chance, her solo released before Idle became massive.
Soyeon's debut album didn't release at the best of time (after the controversy, during the hiatus, before TOMBOY's breakthrough success). I think Miyeon's solo debut did ok, nothing amazing but fine.
However...
Yuqi's solo debut is a huge success (500k+ copies sold), she's already a star in China. And the members individually have a lot of activities: shows, magazine covers, photoshoots, ads... Honestly they're doing great.
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People lack unbiased, objective critera to speak on that matter. So I have identified three undisputed categories evaluating groups members' skill and appeal so we can settle things once for all:
1. Songwriting and producing abilities and achievements
2. Popularity/commercial success as a solo artist
3. Interest shown by other companies and artists
Now let's break this down:
1. Obvioulsy Soyeon of (G)I-DLE is the queen of this category. No need to elaborate.
2. Yuqi of (G)I-DLE achieved this year one the most successful solo debuts of all time.
3. Miyeon and Minnie of (G)I-DLE are among the most sought after voices for collaborations, featurings and OSTs.
Well, it appears from an unbiased, objective standpoint that (G)I-DLE is the clear winner and top group of their generation. Wow, I didn't expect that outcome! At least it's settled. Now we can have peace...
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...What?
This isn't a matter of opinion. It's simple math.
What's more impressive?
Group A accumulating 3.2 billion streams in 6 years
Group B accumulating 4.5 billion streams in 1.5 years
There is no need to caveat this. IDLE have never been super strong on Spotify.
NewJeans set Guinness records for fastest group to each billion total stream milestone.
I'm not talking about damn 7 years from now. I'm talking TODAY in the reality we live in CURRENTLY. This isn't even disrespecting what IDLE has done, but fight the battles worth fighting. A debate about their relative performance in the West is not what you want to do.
NewJeans put a literal GIRL GROUP (not just K-Pop) record 5 songs on the Hot 100 in a calendar year. They had the #1 album in the country (U.S.). It's not a fair fight.
To be clear, I'm not saying (G)I-DLE should be #1 above anyone else. Maybe right now NewJeans is the undisputed #1. I don't care that much tbh. My argument was more directed towards the several people who ranked (G)I-DLE last. That's the thing that doesn't make much sense to me. Imo they should at least be #4, because IVE don't seem too hot right now if I'm not mistaken.
#4 or possibly higher, but I can't be bothered taking a look at aespa's and LSRF's current status relatively to each and every group.
