This week LE SSERAFIM proved the best response to hate is to just keep winning

This comeback was iconic

Ok let’s wait a minute. No one hated the song. I’d say the song was well-received like everything LSFM released.

But you can separate, dragging the girls because they VISIBLY looked terrified of singing without auto-tune versus most people enjoying the finished vocally processed product they put out.

To act like they’re received excessive hate or like kpop fans just made up a scandal out of thin air to hate on the girls is ludicrous.

They got rightfully dragged for sounding bad and that’s the end of it. People need to chill with the victim complexes. This isn’t an example of an evil conspiracy to hate on a group. A group performed bad and people talked about it. Congrats on the song doing well, it’s a good song and it should. That doesn’t change the reality of the bad encore stage :/. Both are worthy of talking about.

My favorite pass time is watching fearnot’s poppin off after all the hate.

Honestly, hater’s almost ruined the comeback for me, I couldn’t enjoy any of their content without seeing hateful comments but glad the girls are reaching new heights and continuing with their success. I don’t know how other fandoms deal with this amount of hate.

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To act like they’re received excessive hate or like kpop fans just made up a scandal out of thin air to hate on the girls is ludicrous.

They got rightfully dragged for sounding bad and that’s the end of it. People need to chill with the victim complexes. This isn’t an example of an evil conspiracy to hate on a group. A group performed bad and people talked about it. Congrats on the song doing well, it’s a good song and it should. That doesn’t change the reality of the bad encore stage :/. Both are worthy of talking about.

Ludicrous?? You have been BLIND or haven't been paying attention to twitter. There's a fine line between criticism versus hate.

There's literally trending tweets calling them druggies, nugus, and flops. You could not avoid the countless posts dragging them

The more hate, the more attention they get, and the more popular a group or idol gets.

The only time that it doesn't is when an idol does something morally or culturally repulsive.

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Ok let’s wait a minute. No one hated the song. I’d say the song was well-received like everything LSFM released.

But you can separate, dragging the girls because they VISIBLY looked terrified of singing without auto-tune versus most people enjoying the finished vocally processed product they put out.

To act like they’re received excessive hate or like kpop fans just made up a scandal out of thin air to hate on the girls is ludicrous.

They got rightfully dragged for sounding bad and that’s the end of it. People need to chill with the victim complexes. This isn’t an example of an evil conspiracy to hate on a group. A group performed bad and people talked about it. Congrats on the song doing well, it’s a good song and it should. That doesn’t change the reality of the bad encore stage :/. Both are worthy of talking about.

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The vocals wasn’t even the start of the hate train. They got hate for literally everything. Kazuah lifting her leg, them “dancing in a church” for Easy MV, Chaewon and Sakura mentioning their waist size, Chaewon taking supplements, Eunchae dancing in Smart, and the funniest was them wearing UGG boots lol.

You talking about victim complex when the only people victimizing themselves are the haters claiming le sserafim’s every move is offending them. At some point, a lot of y’all were just in echo chambers.

Now the vocals, I don’t disagree cus they need to get it together, but everything else was just foolishness, malicious and hateful.

I mean, their albums sales are good, but they only won at Music Shows because of their fans. I mean, that's how those award shows work. That's why senior artist don't go there anymore, it's boring. No one can convince me that EASY is a better song than TWS's or Bibi's song. Even TWICE new song is better with all the unnecessary autotune. So, yeah, you need good album sales, good charting and many fans paying on voting apps. They did the hard part, sold a lot of albums, but let's be real, without HYBE, they could do it? I don't think so. Okay, it's about taste, but in my opinion, EASY is just a waste of time. If they had won with SMART or any other song from the album, I could understand it.

Yes, some people hate them just because they are a HYBE group, but there's nothing wrong with fair criticism. Their encore performance was ridiculous.

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Ludicrous?? You have been BLIND or haven't been paying attention to twitter. There's a fine line between criticism versus hate.

There's literally trending tweets calling them druggies, nugus, and flops. You could not avoid the countless posts dragging them

i’ll respond to this like i responded to some who tried using twitter as an example of real life.

I can go to twitter, and find any group of people, talking bad about any other group of people right now. That’s the internet.

I’m not actively seeking how hate on twitter lol because if you do, you’ll legit find it for every comeback for every artist in kpop, ESPECIALLY popular ones.

My main experience with kpop is here, where people tend to be more level headed and not just mindlessly hating and atleast on her, most of everything i saw, was valid criticism and not calling people druggies LOL.

The only other controversy that was biggest enough to leak into my feed, was Smart trending because people had a problem with the genre of the music being sung by kpop, which i can see both sides, but again, that’s leaning towards valid criticism than mindless hate.

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Don't be an idiot.

They received relentless, excessive hate for an entire week, and the only thing that's ludicrous is to pretend like that hate was all legitimate critique from unbiased consumers who are all suddenly vocal experts.

Twitter, reddit and beyond were filled with nothing but LSF hate posts, sometimes over the most insignificant things, like Kazuha lifting her leg in a song called Swan Song, and you're really in here trying to claim people are just victim cosplaying?

What rock do you even live under? PLENTY of people bashed Easy, and even more people attacked the girls individually. I can only suspect you were a part of that mob, given your burning desire to defend their ugly behavior.

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Refer to comments above about being able to find hate on twitter every comeback for every popular kpop group. If you wanna traffic in that, then that’s you. You should realize the internet is always gonna be filled with that, so why you acting brand new????

From what i saw on Allkpop, WHICH IS wtf you’re posting on, their criticism was just that, and not pure hate. If you wanna deal with twitter hate, GO TO TWITTER. There’s a reason why some of us have kpop discussions here and not on twitter.

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i’ll respond to this like i responded to some who tried using twitter as an example of real life.

I can go to twitter, and find any group of people, talking bad about any other group of people right now. That’s the internet.

I’m not actively seeking how hate on twitter lol because if you do, you’ll legit find it for every comeback for every artist in kpop, ESPECIALLY popular ones.

My main experience with kpop is here, where people tend to be more level headed and not just mindlessly hating and atleast on her, most of everything i saw, was valid criticism and not calling people druggies LOL.

The only other controversy that was biggest enough to leak into my feed, was Smart trending because people had a problem with the genre of the music being sung by kpop, which i can see both sides, but again, that’s leaning towards valid criticism than mindless hate.

Refer to comments above about being able to find hate on twitter every comeback for every popular kpop group. If you wanna traffic in that, then that’s you. You should realize the internet is always gonna be filled with that, so why you acting brand new????

From what i saw on Allkpop, WHICH IS wtf you’re posting on, their criticism was just that, and not pure hate. If you wanna deal with twitter hate, GO TO TWITTER. There’s a reason why some of us have kpop discussions here and not on twitter.

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Kpop fans a generally very hyperbolic and emotional with the groups they like.

Unless you can quantify the amount of hate, there is no way you can actually say that one groups was the most hated at any given time. Because as you said, kpop fans are always talking shit about other groups they don't like or care.

Even though, it would not be difficult for le sserafim to have gotten the most hate for the past week, since they were the biggest group doing a comeback lately.

It's not a clapback at haters it's literally just HYBE privilege and auto-tune. Why are we acting like the hate train was unwarranted, them girls cannot sing not one note properly. Fraudulent Lesserafim and auto-tune Lesserafim will not get away with this. Love them though. Not really but still love them though.

Tbh we already know there’s no lasting impact to popularity because of bad encores. Groups continue to be successful. If anything it seems to be a rite of passage lol.

So I don’t think they were ever too worried.

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Please closely examine this statement and reflect on when a hate train on a K-Pop group, especially over an encore stage, is warranted.

Funny how nobody had this same energy for their subsequent encore stages on Music Core and Inkigayo, where they were perfectly stable.

Criticism is warranted if you can't do your job correctly, which you also trained for years to do.

Also no, their encore stages weren't stable. they were mediocre at best.

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It's not a clapback at haters it's literally just HYBE privilege and auto-tune. Why are we acting like the hate train was unwarranted, them girls cannot sing not one note properly. Fraudulent Lesserafim and auto-tune Lesserafim will not get away with this. Love them though. Not really but still love them though.

elle

we're not friends anymore  

why are you trolling like this

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elle

we're not friends anymore  

why are you trolling like this

AKP is boring lately, I need to start some fights plus I never said I stopped trolling permanently, I just took a break

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AKP is boring lately, I need to start some fights plus I never said I stopped trolling permanently, I just took a break

BUT DON'T BULLY MY GIRLIES

You'll minion for Le Sserafim too?

I can do that instead, you can rest lol

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BUT DON'T BULLY MY GIRLIES

Nobody is safe

might be dangerous to just completely ignore criticism. twice got hate for their terrible encore, didnt do anything about it, their reputation never really recovered ever since. korea is more important to lsf than twice so they have to be careful

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might be dangerous to just completely ignore criticism. twice got hate for their terrible encore, didnt do anything about it, their reputation never really recovered ever since. korea is more important to lsf than twice so they have to be careful

the drive to improve can only ever come from within and that requires honesty with yourself. bending to the whims of the online haters is not a healthy source of motivation. some idols treat their profession the same way elite athletes do and its very admirable

Happy for the ladies and Fearnots. I choose to just enjoy their music and looking forward to the crazy and hot eras to come!!

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I've been averaging 13 hours of sleep a day recovering from some bad virus that went around my office.

LET ME COOK

Lol get well soon

Girl…social medias mean nothing irl. A group will always be successful no matter what people say on the internet. You act they’re the 1st group to be dragged.

Encores doesn't affect billboard Hot 100 and spotify charting

The encore stage wasn’t even the beginning of the hate.

- Many people came at them for having their music video in a church.

- They came at them for using Afrobeats for smart

- They came at Kazuha for lifting her leg

- Many called easy mid/boring

Now this hate isn’t exclusive to lsf. But I notice that I have been seeing animosity towards them and other HYBE groups in general…

the brighter my light gets, the darker my shadow grows

Now THIS is the Yama i can get behind .

LSRFM ended all the shadesters and haters, Easy moving up in Korea, Smart jumping up Korean charts by leaps and bounds, and impressive Spotify and Hot 100 performance.

But i wont forget. And i won't forgive.

The second some stan from a rival group starts bragging about their vocals, i'm gonna put them ON BLAST (with a few exceptions for those that can actually sing like my faves).

The hate campaign began a bit ahead of the comeback this time, some Kpop stans feel threatened by Le Sserafim and it shows.

it was messy. I saw viral boycott/hate tweets from indonesian sm stans with 50-80k likes

it was ironic bcs both are lucas stans