Are you for or against non-Asian people in K-pop ?

Well, I think as long as they are singing Korean, it can still be classified as KPOP. But I remember that group of white dudes who formed a KPOP group years ago lmao. They were white but singing in Korean, so it was still kind of KPOP. Not against it, but it didn't make sense to me. Felt very opportunistic and a little like appropriation.

Koreans singing Pop in different languages is still kinda KPOP lmao.

But, a group with barely any Koreans and who aren't speaking Korean...that's not KPOP. That's KPOP inspired.

Not against it but I don't encourage it because I think it does not lead to equitable outcomes for the member as if the industry isn't hostile enough.

I'm all for it, as long as they respect the culture and aren't purposely making a complete mockery out of it(cough cough Oli London).

As an asian guy who likes rap music, I'd be a hypocrite to say non-asians can't be in kpop

against it

I'm not against it, but kpop itself was adopted from the jpop system and tailored to suit sk's needs and perhaps a few other asian countries until a few years ago.

I feel instead of debuting foreign idols that are treated with hostility. The kpop idol system can be adapted or some version of it might already exist in their respective countries. Companies need to set up similar systems there.

i think i'd be for non-asians who live in korea, to represent and normalize diversity in korea but against non-asians who live in other countries. If that makes sense?

I don't care. But I would never get why a non Asian person would debut in kpop, a much smaller music industry than pop music.

From what I know the white actresses who debut in Bollywood are mostly Hollywood rejects. So I'm gonna assume the case is same in kpop, with Koreabo0s playing a major role as well?

As long as they make an effort to speak the language and they respect the culture, I don’t see an issue

It's okay and I fully support it as long the kpop keeps in majority Asian and people don't try to erase or white wash Asian influences in kpop

Although I would find a bit better if mixed or even immigrants who live in Asia turned to be idols instead of casting Americans or Europeans.

Depends on it

I noticed that it really has to do with the person. An example where it wasn't a good idea was from Japan, they had a group who was suposed to debut with a American-European guy that got cancled by fans of the group for a stupid thing he did and people were happy as he left them and I was happy too that they debuted without him and if Korea nad such a dude too than just yikes, but let's imagine the person can sing and dance and maybe even grew up in Korea than that would be something else than just getting the "He speaks no Korean and still auditioned"- guy

I'm completely fine with it as long as they can keep up talent wise and respect the culture.

I'm not against it if the idol can speak Korean really well and have trained like any other asian trainee.

But I honestly don't care if non Asians won't join kpop groups.

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I don't care. But I would never get why a non Asian person would debut in kpop, a much smaller music industry than pop music.

From what I know the white actresses who debut in Bollywood are mostly Hollywood rejects. So I'm gonna assume the case is same in kpop, with Koreabo0s playing a major role as well?

there are white actresses in Bollywood? The closest one I know is Katrina Kaif, but she's half Indian right?

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there are white actresses in Bollywood? The closest one I know is Katrina Kaif, but she's half Indian right?

Not Katrina Kaif. She's half Indian so I'm not considering her. I'm talking about completely white actresses who can barely speak any Indian langauge. Nora Fatehi and Amy Jackson come to my mind.

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Not Katrina Kaif. She's half Indian so I'm not considering her. I'm talking about completely white actresses who can barely speak any Indian langauge. Nora Fatehi and Amy Jackson come to my mind.

nora is actually North African/ Arab and not white

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nora is actually North African/ Arab and not white

She's an American with Morocco descent. She would've never debuted in Bollywood, if Hollywood accepted her.

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The closest one I know is Katrina Kaif, but she's half Indian right?

I know this is off-topic but it's funny you brought her up. My name is Katrina and I am white, and because of Katrina Kaif, my Indian friend's family thought I was also Indian and was shocked to see I was white haha

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She's an American with Morocco descent. She would've never debuted in Bollywood, if Hollywood accepted her.

“Moroccan descent” contradicts with your “completely white”. moroccans are not white people. being American does not automatically make you white.

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I know this is off-topic but it's funny you brought her up. My name is Katrina and I am white, and because of Katrina Kaif, my Indian friend's family thought I was also Indian and was shocked to see I was white haha

lol, I guess it shows Katrina Kaif's impact.

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Not Katrina Kaif. She's half Indian so I'm not considering her. I'm talking about completely white actresses who can barely speak any Indian langauge. Nora Fatehi and Amy Jackson come to my mind.

I don't know Amy Jackson but I always that Nora Fatehi was Indian, she's completely white?? OMG Does everyone that knows Bollywood know this, cus I didn't, is it because I am from Kerala lol.

I just searched her up, she's apparently starred in some malayalam films and she was in Baahubali, i can't believe this.

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As an asian guy who likes rap music, I'd be a hypocrite to say non-asians can't be in kpop

Same here and I know some people would think it appropriation 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that bs doesn't exist here. The major difference between the west and the rest of the world including here in Korea, the vast majority of the population supports encourges and welcomes people to enjoy our culture partake in it and even adopt it, many people find it interesting and fun to see how well a forgiener adapts to being "one of us".

This is why the whole ca thing is bizarre to the majority of people because the idea of gatekeeping shit sounds crazy. Alot of fans and the woke mob would be beyond upset if we began imposing those same crazy ridiculous "rules"

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Same here and I know some people would think it appropriation 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that bs doesn't exist here. The major difference between the west and the rest of the world including here in Korea, the vast majority of the population supports encourges and welcomes people to enjoy our culture partake in it and even adopt it, many people find it interesting and fun to see how well a forgiener adapts to being "one of us".

This is why the whole ca thing is bizarre to the majority of people because the idea of gatekeeping shit sounds crazy. Alot of fans and the woke mob would be beyond upset if we began imposing those same crazy ridiculous "rules"

i don't know what you consider west but in case it's white people; CA in eastern europe also doesn't exist, in fact, people wouldn't understand the concept and how can sharing a culture be a bad thing

I'm not against it, put it that way.

Not an issue as long as it is produced in Korea, mostly by Koreans (otherwise it simply isn't kpop). Why not embrace the internationalization of kpop?

Also, it's racist to include Koreans who grew up in Korea but don't have 100% Korean ancestors in the "non-Korean" category.

100% against it if they are practicing in korea, not against the American KPOP groups

not asian, but i always did and continue to think its fucking stupid how asians get 0 respect in western entertainment, so they figure out shit their own way, then people bitch at them to be "inclusive" as if white/latino/blacks dont all have amazing representation in the western world

e/ this is the same shit as import modeling back in the 2000s, asians were seen as too short, not shapely enough for regular modeling, so they started import modeling, took over the internet in the last 2000s, then all of a sudden were called racist for not allowing white bitches to get involved

i'm not against it, though i'm also not encouraging it

Neither for nor against

This is such a weird question.

I can only answer for myself. Indians have their own huge film and music industry. I’m not looking for representation in kpop. And I’m sure Koreans aren’t looking for representation in Bollywood.

Idk how others feel about it. I feel immigrants who have different ties to their origin culture crave representation more.

This is also true for Japanese or Chinese or any other nationality/ethnicity in kpop. I don’t “want” or “need” or “expect” it. Kpop companies add them because it’s profitable for them. Having these trainees increases popularity and exposure in those countries.

If tomorrow kpop finds say Brazil to be a top market and debuts a Brazilian kpop idol to tap into that market, good for them. But I don’t really see it as representation or something necessary.

Korea is not a diverse country so I don’t think it needs representation. Ofc if for example dark skinned Koreans or larger bodied idols or LGBT idols want to debut THAT would indeed be representation. But having other nationalities and ethnicities is just for profit and if they find non Asian countries profitable I don’t see why idols from those countries can’t debut. But again it’s not a necessity and I don’t see it as a “win” for those ethnicities.

dont have a strong opinion on it either way

Yes if it's for what she/he brings to the group in terms of sound/performance etc but no if it's for a marketing point or diversity for the sake of diversity.

Non Asians(especially whites) have the whole Hollywood world to themselves. So it's funny to me when some white people get upset when white people are not that accepted in k-pop. Are Asians accepted in America? No. It's not going to kill you if you are not accepted in one of the only (small ass) industry Asians can thrive worldwide.

It annoys me how white mixed idols are more accepted while the same is impossible for brown skin SEA-SA-ns/mixed in big companies.

It also surprised me to find so many Black legends in acting because all I saw on twitter was the racism talk when I was a kid. Ofc it's true and not denying it. But it legit made me think for a long time they were a small amount in Hollywod. Turns out there are plenty and even in old Hollywood. Despite all the horror pre and during Jim Crow era and post, they still had a big presence in the industry. Yes, they still face discrimination but I mean look at Will Smith. He will get 35 million dollars for his latest role. Can you think of an Asian actor/actress getting the same? Almost all Asians who got big roles always casted in stereotypical roles meant for Asians. I'm not blaming them at all. I'm just saying you can count or do they even exist legendary Meryl Strip, Denzel Washington level Asian actors? It's always foreign ones.

Hollywood is only opening now because it's not like it's used to be and they want Asian market money. It's still filled with agendas but that's a conversation for another day. Back then they dgaf

I won't even talking about music scene hahaha. No, white passing Olivia Rodrigo doesn't count. Bruno is acceptable because of his Latino side. Full blood Asians are not welcome. Only mixed ones.

Like I said, any Non-Asian will have more chance in non Asian countries, they have the whole world to themselves. They will be fine.

eh, I am not against it strongly, but I probably wont be interested if the group has one cause kpop doesn't fit them. They just fit their western style groups like 1D, pussycat dolls, little mix whatever. Imagine them having korean makeup, doing aegoo, acting cute, innocent and childish is just not my interest at all.