Really liked it. Puth is always creative with his productions, and it's catchy.
definitely a bop
I can't remember why we're not supposed to like him so I'm assuming it's probably for a reason I didn't really care much about in the first place. That said, the hook sounds amazing and maybe Charlie and JK are remembering that rather disastrous awards show performance and they are seeking to restore their honor.
BTS and Puth had a not great performance together in the past, so a bunch of Armys put the blame on Puth to defend BTS. They then dragged Puth by coming up with anything they could to discredit him out of spite, as they do. Some of it stuck in the back of stans' minds.
there was this girl Ella Gross or something, she has been said to look like Jennie, but idk if she will pursue kpop, she seems to be model
Ella is signed to The Black Label, Teddy's company. Right now she's just modeling... but so are BP and Somi...
Teddy is a very successful modeling agent.
Teddy would regardless debut a GG tho of his own
Not sure what it means for BP 2nd contract negotiations 🤔
He's already super slow imagine he has to produce for his GG lol
Kush is back to pick up some of the slack, so it might not be so bad.
She only has 8 songs ( + maybe 2-4 more with her next comeback), so probably no concert, but she might open for BP. That could be her "crazy news".
Some movements that have caught my attention recently. (links provided to check)
3. Kush (Cofounder of Black Label with Teddy) rejoins Black label after laying low for a while after being caught with cocaine.
4. Black Label completely erasing their ig feed and starting new and likely branching out separate from yg in future.
Yang hyun suk completely erasing his ig feed also a few weeks ago and hopefully retiring and leaving bp alone after his disgusting personality revealed in trial with hansohee .
These are all big movements for me because they were/are/will be working with bp.
Teddy is doing some interesting stuff with his own company and should debut a new girl group of his own in a few years with Ella Gross
So During that contract renewal talks, the members will have to decide if they want to continue working with teddy and blacklabel and with umg support. I honestly would like to see them having more control over their own music and not waiting on teddy but they will still have to pass through the annoying yg company to release songs . I hope they think real hard about their future.
"Teddy is doing some interesting stuff with his own company and should debut a new girl group of his own in a few years with Ella Gross"
The group will probably be sooner than that. Waiting on Ella would take about 4 years due to her age and skill level. The current trainees that they intentionally showed on "I Am Somi" (last December) seemed to be around 16-20, not even close to 13.
Combine that with the fact that Blackpink's former main stylist joined TBL recently... to only style Somi, and maybe ZionT for the next 4 years... I don't think so.
Also, Somi keeps mentioning "crazy news" since the end of last year, and she just said that it still will not be revealed soon (so probably 2-6 months away, going by Teddy time). It might simply be a tour or big collab (maybe BP) that will come with her next comeback, or it could have something to do with the new group. Whatever it is, it's been in development for over 6 months.
"Black Label completely erasing their ig feed and starting new and likely branching out separate from yg in future."
They also changed all the YT thumbnails to alter the logo and had a company party at about the same time. It does have the feeling of "starting new", but probably not in a way that separates them from YG completely. It would be a bit awkward considering that they just moved into the old YG building.
"So During that contract renewal talks, the members will have to decide if they want to continue working with teddy and blacklabel..."
If Teddy thought there was any chance of BP leaving then he would definitely be preparing a new GG for next year, just in case.
Are Izone girls doing great. Definitely.
Outdid IOI? debatable.
Izone is clearly dominating with their post-disbandment groups, even taking into account the growth of kpop.
IOI clearly has the strongest individual artists.
Chungha had a couple huge hits and many major music awards.
Sejeong had a solo hit + some music awards, and is one of the most successful drama and variety actors right now + some acting awards. Also has a large number of brand deals.
Somi had a hit last year + a few awards, has the #2 most streamed kpop female solo album on Spotify (between Lisa and Rose), and I think is second only to IU in the number of major brand deals this year so far (and is probably one of the richest idols for her age, not counting family money).
All the rest of the girls are still in entertainment, and most have successful careers after 6 years (mostly acting).
X1... they probably could have been huge if not for the scandal.
Somi has been in the public eye since 2015, was a JYP trainee and a very popular contestant on their survival show, the #1 pick on IOI, has been in 2 other project groups that were very successful, and is now in a sublabel of YG. She's obviously going to be popular and brands are going to want to work with her. However, Somi has never been anywhere near where Wonyoung is right now. The closest was when she was in I.O.I.
Also, you're comparing brand deals despite the fact that you're comparing an active idol who's still in school and has a mc gig to an idol who's most recent release was in 2021 and has been doing nothing other than photoshoots/brand deals and even despite that the difference is not that big.
Somi: Louis Vuitton, Kiss Me, Samsung, COSRX, Coca Cola, Nintendo Switch, Converse KR, Lacoste, Loreal Paris, and possibly Prada? i think i saw her teasing that.
Wonyoung: Miu Miu (also did Vogue x Miu Miu but not sure if those count as 2 seperate brand deals or not), Kirsh, Innis Free, Telecom, Chaumet, Laura Mercier, Pepsi Zero: Attitude, Prada, and Bulgari
Being the top it girl has more to do with than just brand deals. Suzy is still continuing to bag brand deals left and right but no one thinks she's the it girl anymore because being the it girl is more than just that. It's the person who is popular with the general public, consistently trending, and actually influencing people. The influence Jang Wonyoung has on teens in Korea right now is massive and undeniable, whereas Somi only has influence with her own fans. Wonyoung is always in the public's eye 24/7 and goes trending for just airport pictures or Insta posts whereas Somi, following only her solo career, was out of the public's eye until Dumb Dumb, trended a bit, and then went out of the public eye again.
Somi is popular and I genuinely love her. I'm literally the only person who has made threads on her this year. But to imply that Somi is somehow bigger than Wonyoung and your biggest argument being a hypothetical of what could possibly be if she started her own group is just dumb.
In Korea Wonyoung is currently more poplar, but worldwide it's similar.
I'm literally a huge Somi fan and Somi is big but let's not pretend it's been all smooth sailing. Following her departure from JYP, you saw a huge decline in popularity and I think a lot of her own fandom wasn't on board with her being a soloist until WYWF and her popularity in Korea only came after DD.
Not to mention, Kang Daniel was the undeniable #1 it boy for his entirety in Wanna One, like he was everywhere. Post- Wanna One, hes still relatively popular but nowhere near being an it boy. Wonyoung was one of the popular member of Izone but only has become the undeniable it girl now with IVE and we have to see how her career goes. Somi on the other hand has always been pretty popular but her general popularity kind of fluctuates and even when her popularity was doing well, I dont think I can pick out a real time frame and say "this is when Somi was the top it girl."
I think Somi has more brand deals, Somi and Wonyoung have similar insta engagement (despite Somi using it less) and Somi's MVs generally get more likes than Ive's (despite Somi releasing music, and all other content, once in a blue moon), so I'm not sure in what way Wonyoung is clearly more of an 'it' girl than Somi at the moment.
Stans talk about Wonyoung more because stans are more interested in the competition between groups than soloists. Just imagine if Somi started her own group (21 is a normal age for the leader of a debut group)... but that would get in the way of her relaxing yet lucrative schedule. Somi is a strange combination of a young idol early in her career and a veteran idol that is focused on things other than being an idol.
I see your point, but Somi is bigger now than during IOI.
-8 brand deals in the last 5 months, mostly for big international brands.
-Won best performance, and best solo artist at the Golden Disk Awards and First Brand Awards (advertisers pay attention to this one), respectively.
-Dumb Dumb was a hit with 128M YT views (2.9M likes), 8th on the Korean charts and her album also got onto the main Billboard charts.
-Somi's social media numbers are some of the best in the industry (except for BTS and BP, of course).
and Somi gets these big CFs when she only releases once a year, hasn't done any dramas/film and rarely does variety.
Perfect for Teddy.
No wonder he chose her as the only idol on his label so far.
This is how she bought her family a house and car before she was an adult.
pressed the replay button right away.
better than I was expecting.
GP might like this one.
It's OK. More dull than I expected.