Posts by hammerstan

Quote from thebadguy

Teddy's somi songs aren't doing that well

FF - #5

DD - #8

Top ten in her last two comebacks is very good for a female soloist. She even surpassed Newjeans at one point with FF last year.

Teddy is extremely consistent with producing hits for both groups and soloists.

Assuming TBLNGG's concept is elite, high-class and expensive, with a focus on members' individuality (because Teddy), the members we know the most about are genuinely perfect.

Annie Moon (position: probably leader):

First, getting an actual chaebol into the group is inspired. Not only will Annie generate tons of publicity just by existing, she would be a perfect fit for the concept, granting instant credibility, and luxury brands would fall over themselves to get a top idol/chaebol endorsement. Annie would probably be great for the leader position as well since she's an adult (shocking), a graduate of Columbia University, and has been around people in top leadership positions all her life. Don't know her skills yet, but I'm sure they are at least decent if Teddy chose her and her family isn't resisting (they wouldn't want Annie to embarrass the family), and decent is great by current popular group standards.

Bailey Sok (position: main dancer/choreographer):

Getting Bailey Sok into the group is insane. Evidence for her as a TBL trainee has been around for a couple years, but most didn't believe it was possible that Bailey would want to become an idol. She's just too talented, successful and famous within the professional dancer community. It goes without saying that Bailey would would immediately become one of the best dancers (and in-group choreographers) in kpop history, male or female. Bailey has also been training her vocals with one of BTS's vocal coaches over the last couple years. She has a history of getting brand deals, including Nike, and a ton of charisma, on and off stage. Also an adult.

Ella Gross (position: maknae):

Despite her age, Ella has a long history in entertainment/modelling. She has been an internationally recognized model since she was a young child, with a long list of high-end brands that she has promoted. She has also acted in a number of movies/shows. She has the cute factor that would appeal to younger fans while still fitting the luxury concept due to her background (a hard needle to thread). Skill-wise, she has been training at TBL for over five years, while working and going to school, and from what I have heard she sounded good a couple of years ago, so Ella could only be better now.

Chloe Lee (position: ?):

Chloe is likely a member, but little is known about her at this point, other than that she's tall and beautiful in a way that fits with luxury high fashion, and she has a history of modelling.

That leaves main vocalist and main rapper open, but if Teddy could get Bailey as his main dancer then it is likely that he found very talented members for those positions as well.

Also, notice that they are all fluent in English. Assuming the main vocalist and main rapper are talented, the group will have the skills, concept and communication ability to instantly go world-wide (the West generally cares if a singing group can sing, including idols).

Ultimately, the biggest question is whether the music production will match the brilliance of the member selection. If TBL manages to produce quality songs for TBLNGG then the group's dominance is almost guaranteed. If TBL doesn't, the downside of the concept and such a powerful lineup will become clear: it's hard to maintain an elite, high-class and expensive concept when you are flopping.

Update:

Ella is signed to TBL but Bailey isn't officially. For them to make the same move at about the same time can't be a coincidence. I would consider both Ella and Bailey to be almost confirmed members at this point.

Update 2:

Annie Moon and Bailey Sok received GLYF (Somi's highligher brand) and posted it on their insta. This is their only interaction I'm aware of, so I would consider this almost confirmation that Annie (and Bailey) will be in TBLGG.

Earlier evidence for Bailey and Ella:

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Bailey Sok is/was a trainee for TheBlackLabel's GG

Based on this video of their trainees (Dec 11, 2021):youtu.be/ztJMHS2p6-o?t=433

Here: 7:14
and Girl with blond hair without dark roots: 7:32

tiktok.com/@iyangr/video/7179662440936918299

Bailey dyed her hair blond with pink highlights shortly before vid was released. She was in Korea (normally in America) and interacted with YGX dancers around the same time.
instagram.com/p/CXEffs2vwHE/

There are pics of her wearing the same black cargo pants as in the second part of the vid.
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hammerstan

Feb 14th 2023

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Teddy's next girl group preparing to debut? Ella Gross with new hair color in TBL practice room.

I occasionally check in on Ella's IG account because there is a good chance that they are preparing her to debut in TBL's girl group, so her IG account might be the best source for hints on when TBLGG will debut.

https://www.instagram.com/ellagross/

She's officially under TBL as a model/actress, but her recent change of hair color (to a very kpop orange) and taking photos/videos in TBL's practice room (Ella's home is in America) suggests that the group's lineup might be finalized and the members…

hammerstan

Sep 15th 2023

J-pop? or just a Korean band very heavily influenced by j-pop?

Quote from K-PL

TBL has been able to attract a lot of instagramers and influencers.

Talent-wise we do not really know yet. The choreo girl might just be doing their choreo and not in the group.

YGE has been lazy. They have had years and years to look for and reserve great songs for BM, but it seems like they really dropped the ball in this area.

Come on.

Getting Bailey Sok alone is insane. Most didn't even think that was possible for any agency. They would immediately have one of the best dancers (and in-group choreographers) in kpop history, male or female.

Ella is a internationally well known and successful name in modelling who is perfect for the maknae 'position'.

Getting an actual chaebol into the group is also incredible. To get enough faith from the girl and family so that they support the move is extremely impressive and hasn't been done before (for a genuine chaebol), as far as I'm aware. She would be a perfect fit for a high-class expensive concept (which will definitely be the concept with Teddy at the helm), granting instant credibility, like they are not just acting the role.

These are the most likely members at this point, with the most supporting evidence. If they can get Bailey as the main dancer, who are they getting for the main vocal position?

TBL seems to have the pick of the litter.

Oh wow, I missed this. Looks like they are working on a complete separation, which wouldn't have worked as neighbours.

In the past I predicted that this would be the beginning of the end for YGE. We might start seeing more YGE employees jumping ship to TBL once TBLGG comes out.

TBLGG's leaked lineup suggests that TBL has already been attracting better talent than YGE.

Quote from LilacGirl

Why do I feel like that the hiatus thingy might be the appeal for all these popular people signing up with tbl lol

Like somi/Bp you will live your rich influencer/model/dancer life and be a super popular idol at the same time.

The current speculated members already have well established fanbases, being idols will only be a plus to them.

This.

Exactly right.

And they want to be in Teddy's next group after Blackpink.

Quote from Coldhit

It's interesting how the narrative is changing in favor of this new gg so fast so soon lol

Right now so many people are shading and excluding them, a new development going on out there. BM were extremely hyped as the next Blackpink successor too, now suddenly they are not giving BP enough. So far, it definitely felt like BM had more hype pre-debut for ages especially as the Blackpink junior sister group.

That's because most people don't understand that Teddy was the executive producer behind Blackpink, not YG. It was always predictable that TBLGG would be Blackpink's successor group for those that knew that Teddy was working on his own group in TBL and not working on BM.

Quote from LilacGirl

Indeed. Bailey is still unconfirmed tho.

As for vocally talented member, if they share the same vocal trainers as YGE BM we can at least expect something nice. But if there is a member innately talented in singing and has been training well for long like bailey in dancing that would be pretty cool for sure.

Everyone is unconfirmed.

Bailey might just be choreographing, but she's definitely in the photos (looking like a group member) and it is likely she was one of the trainees in this video.

Quote from littlemissnoname

Not sure if the timing is good after her Starbucks controversy. People may put her brand on the boycott list. And the name is truly bad

Very few Koreans care that Somi drank Starbucks half a year ago. The people that do need clinical help.

Quote from LilacGirl

1 comeback per 2 year wont hurt

Ikr! Its almost unfair for other rookies to be compared to Bailey, she is a different kind of beast. Even among dancers communities she is considered one of the best.

Makes you wonder if they will have a main vocalist as talented at singing as Bailey is at dancing. The group could be an absolute powerhouse talent-wise.

Quote from sveznalica

They are giving me vibes of backup dancers, I would never think this is future rookie idol group lol

I don't get the backup dancer thing.

Because they are mature and not children (except for Ella)?

Teddy would never debut a kid group.

When? In 2018, when Somi left JYP, Bighit wasn't focused on girl groups and they had a bad track record with them, so why would Somi have been interested?

More recently? Somi's solo contract with TBL is probably 2-5 years, so she probably had her hit with Dumb Dumb before her first resigning, so why would she abandon her successful solo career to sign a 7 year contract on a gamble that is guaranteed to greatly reduce her control over her career/music/schedule/IP/social media?

Quote from thebadguy

So u say danielle is probably a lot of people's second or third choice which is why her high number of votes, kinda makes sense ngl

It's funny because that actually happened on Produce 101. Somi was struggling to hold 1st place vs. Sejeong when the voting was for the top 11 but pulled way ahead in votes for the last episode when voting switched to the top 1.

Quote from bartkun

question tho

why would Thai politician be in such place which displays schedule/tracklist?

did YG make some deal with Thai government that we don't know about?

TheBlackLabel recently made a joint company with the biggest company in Thailand with strong ties to the government. Not YGE but probably related.

"K-pop agency The Black Label partnered with Thai conglomerate CP Group to establish a joint company named "TheBlackSea." Its aim is to discover and train next-generation Thai artists with potential, the agency said Tuesday."

K-pop agency The Black Label partners with Thailand's CP Group to find new talent

K-pop agency The Black Label partnered with Thai conglomerate CP Group to establish a joint company named "TheBlackSea." Its aim is to discover and train…

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

The Charoen Pokphand Group Company, Ltd. (CP) (Thai: เจริญโภคภัณฑ์; RTGS: Charoen Phokkhaphan) is a Thai conglomerate based in Bangkok. It is Thailand's largest private company and the largest privately held Royal Warrant holder of the Thai Royal Family.

Now at least one of the girls signs with the Blacklabel for solo work and I can be super smug with my prediction.

Teddy is also working on TBLGG, I-Land2 and releases from other TBL artists, like Vince. The guy has his own company to worry about... and he's always been slow with his output.

Also, who knows what he is dealing with behind the scenes with regard to blackpink and their contracts.

Quote from likeastarr

maybe teddy poached her for their blacklabel new girl group!!

Companies almost never poach an idol right before debut (I can't think of a single example).

Why do people keep thinking that Teddy would take hostile actions against YGE? They are next-door neighbours.

Quote from Slayurfaves

this is what I've been thinking that she was sick. There was a baemon fan that spotted her 2 months ago close to YG building and said she was veyr skinny and YG staff didn't let them take pics

she hasn't been seen at school either Haram and her used to be seen a lot together .I hope she can get better whether she joins baemon later or not. Her being sick was probably the reason why baemon was delayed for so long they were supposed to debut a while back.

Yes. Considering the delay and Ahyeon being MIA for so long, health issues (mental or physical) makes the most sense.

Quote from thebadguy

Kinda impressive that Soyeon who got rejected from produce 101 debuting lineup ended up becoming the most successful idol from that show

talent + work ethic can't be beat

First Soyeon ( (G)I-dle ) bringing Winter ( Aespa ) and Liz ( Ive ) together on a collab, now Somi bringing Giselle, Winter and Yunjin ( Le Sserafim ) over to her house for a sleepover.