Posts by kazuyakamenashi

    lmao what Koreans really love is international prestige, they will ride behind ot7 BTS if it means getting more soft power on the global stage, *i'm talking about gp here not bitter big3 group stans on pnnchoa*

    This is true and not just for us it's true for any country. If you have a celebrity that will increase your nations prestige. In the end it serves you. Not just pride but profit too. More tourists means more tax dollars more money means slightly better services and maybe if you are lucky some of that money goes directly in your pocket. Most people don't give a damn about the celebrity as long as whatever they are doing benefits us in some fashion that's all that matters in the end

    Regardless if he did or didn't see the clips, shit like this isn't something to be discussed openly with others. If you are " concerned" talk to the involved parties first. Not everyone is comfortable with very private intimate things about them being made public.


    I don't get what's with people being so damn nosy these days where they have to share other people's lives for their own 15 minutes of fame. Not even once do they think about the other person and how they would feel .


    Even if this story is fake or real, the question is what good does it do to air out someone else's life? Are you doing her any favors? Let these people choose themselves if they want others to know what's happening in their private life

    Lee Jinho professes to know exactly why Kim Saeron committed suicide, and what reasons had nothing to do with it. It's not reasonable, there wasn't some suicide note only he's read. He is absolutely playing you for a fool.

    Yes jinho is just as bad. But this family using garo and rubber stamping everything he says is what's going to tank their case. Is Soohyun a groomer? Likely BUT here's the problem nobody will be able to say for 100% certainty because they people keep discrediting themselves by making up Soo much BS and lies to the point everyone could genuinely believe everything was made up and it wouldn't be hard for his lawyers to present it that way. I knew so much about it was B's that's why I contacted the FBI and they told me it was B's a week ago. Now the Korean consulate just stated it was fake there was no attack and the audio they released was fake. If this does go to court the family will lose big time you can't lie to the public and then lie to serious government agencies and expect in a court case to be believed.

    I like how you agree and quote a post about narratives, agendas and uncertainty. You then instantly ignore all of that, literally in the next sentence by sharing uncertainty and evidence that isn't fact. You can't talk about cyber wreckers and not think Lee Jinho hasn't muddle thing situation more than anyone else in this.

    I haven't ignored him he's trash too. But he isn't running around saying outlandish shit. It's crazy when he seems reasonable. When the opposition says they have 9th room stuff on Soohyun but won't release it and won't take it to the police 🤡. Then says he's a CCP spy and sends out assassin's 🤡 if this actor is that powerful how come all these people aren't silenced Luigi magioni a random middle class nobody took out one of the most powerful richest ceos like it was nothing just off impulse. Yet I'm supposed to believe this rich actor is supposed to be a Mafia kingpin can't hire a competent person to ice someone? When a random nobody does it like it was Tuesday 🤡. Both sides of this case are bad just one isn't as ridiculous and playing us for fools

    I don’t follow the whole story closely but all I know the media likes to twist facts to suit their own narrative including main stream like CNN and BBC etc. That is the reason I take everything I read with a healthy dose of salt whether it from gossip papers or main media. Both sides have their own agenda. Neither of them cares for the poor girl when she was alive or dead. I wouldn’t take anybody’s side in this whole mess.

    Exactly when there's too much uncertainty when stuff is shared it's really hard to tell what's fact or not especially when people's emotions are deeply into it. When we first heard about this they only wanted him to acknowledge they had a relationship that was it. Then it turned into this mess. Then later her own mother told people they didn't blame him and told people to leave him alone.


    But with the cyber wreckers being involved and having the family blessings to keep saying and release whatever then the the ethically dubious practices from their lawyers just muddies this situation more.


    As a stranger and not related I find it hard to be upset with one party especially when the effected party literal fuckin mother tells you to leave him be who am I to say no?

    Even before the lawsuit, I heard from friends who read about this that the family did not care at all about Saeron when she was alive. That they are so concern now is a sus. It is better that it is legal and criminal case now. Let all lies and fabrication be separated from the truth. That is the true justice that they can give Saeron.

    The fioa request came back from the FBI they stated they had nothing in their records regarding this case. They even asked for a correspondence within 48hrs to provide additional information about the case, so they can check their records again. The response was from the FBI New Jersey office. Hmm garo seems real fishy now I doubt the USA government is lying about this case. But 🤡 unintentionally got the US government involved lol

    Exactly why I said the family didn't give a fuck about her. They went to a cyber wrecker YouTuber the same trash that attacked her online. I bet they have absolutely NOTHING on Soohyun. Because me thinking as a normal rational human being if me or my family was in such a scenario I would go to the police first and if that didn't work I'd try to confront the responsible parties myself if that's not an option THEN I would restort to opening stuff up to the media. Another reason they don't care they literally approve what ever shit garo says even the outlandish stuff. There's no way they buried their hands in the same and don't know what's happening with each report or press conference.


    Yes him dating her at his age if he truly met her at 19 that is strange BUT I also can't fully judge I know people in my family including my parents who had a 15yr age gap and they knew each other since they were younger. Then the double standards add to this my sister dates a much younger man. But nobody cares. But when she dated a guy much older than herself in the past people acted as if he was the devil incarnate sooo I can't fully be unbiased about that.

    I'm not confusing them, but did you ever see South Koreans making fun of politicians?

    Yes everyday 🤣. Also I don't understand why people are upset over this video. Look both actor and actress agreed to the skits and knew what they signed up to do on the show they had the scripts etc and could have declined the offer BUT decided to do it anyway, they came to earn their paychecks so why are people upset?

    Afaik I don't think anything the family has said has been proven to be a lie or fabrication

    Lee Jinho and Gold Medalist on the other hand...

    🤔 Are you in denial or something? Almost everything released by then has been challenged as false. Including the latest claims out out. So you are telling me that the burning sun reporter, she's lying then when she claimed their stuff is lies. You telling me Wonbin is lying to when he denied any involvement. Remember everything released by garo is approved by the family and unfortunately too many people take everything said as God's word itself no verification or proof. They could say Soohyun has a nuclear bomb under his desk . That must be true right?

    How can you not believe that? Irrespective of anything Garo or the family has done, Kim Soohyun met this girl at like 13, convinced her to sign on to the agency he co-founded when she was 15, started having her over to his house to cook meals for him and his family by the time she was 17 and took her skiresorts and whatnot, either was already in a relationship with or started one the second she became of legal age. That he groomed her irrespective of whether he had started a sexual relationship when she was a minor is not really debatable, how much the Kim Saeron's family knew and when you can be speculative about but two wrongs don't make a right.


    After her death Kim Soohyun and Gold Medalist continued to deny Kim Saeron, who basically spent all the formative years of her life with Kim Soohyun, ever having been in a relationship with him and threatened legal action against those that claimed otherwise including Kim Saeron's mother as recently as 2 months ago.


    You know all this, how on Earth can you be speculative on whether he is the bad guy?

    I'm not saying this dude is a saint. But right now it's difficult to definitively prove those claims when Soo much about this case was fabricated and lied about hell even Wonbin made statement denying any involvement in this entire event. This unfortunately calls into question the motive and credibility of the family.

    Not including the fact that her own mother told people to leave Soohyun alone.


    If all of this is true than yes fuck him. But right now as it stands it's not looking like a conviction. If this went to court it would get thrown out instantly because the witnesses and evidence is compromised it can't be trusted when there's Soo many inconsistency and lies entwined in it.


    I get it though we see someone that's a victim and we want justice no matter what or the cost everything can be ignored entirely as long as you latch on to one thing out of everything else out of 100 things one of them just had to be true right?

    It just gets crazier. I'm not sure if I can believe that Soohyun is the bad guy here anymore. More articles and evidence keeps getting released including the informant admitting to putting out fake stuff, and then now everyone's heroine the sbs reporter that revealed burning sun. She just filed lawsuits against garo and others over this as she stated this stuff is fake. Soo hmmm 🤔 I don't know but it might look like everyone might need to go personally apologize to this actor. They better hope for their own sakes this case doesn't end up being fake

    Exactly and what puzzles me is the fact people want Soohyun to be guilty by any means necessary it's scarily alarming it's nearly Trump maga cult levels of scary.


    If he's truly guilty he should be punished. But this is scary that so many supposedly intelligent independent people are just blindly believing everything that about YouTube cyber wrecker throws at them is insane. This informant didn't like the stuff being debunked and sent garo a video of his " injuries" the dude stated he went home to do it briefly, despite NOT being discharged from the hospital 🤡 um you have a phone, you could have taken the video in your hospital room. Two the sutures aren't visible like shown in the images, making it look suspiciously fake, then the person, explain they couldn't show more because of the other arm being injured, um phones have selfie cams, you don't need to do much to see everything just press a button to have the camera flip.


    Then this person's wife says that the case will be concluded in a few months. Ok wtf? How do you know? Isn't the FBI on the case how can they tell you a deadline?? Two how come the wife couldn't shoot this video for you? Two how does a person who's been stabbed 9 times in the neck leave a hospital? Right after it happens to shoot a video because garo complained about the " evidence" being scrutinized. Um you'd be in serious if not critical condition from such an attack and in no condition for this stunt. Plus people have access to their medical records electronically and in their charts at the hospital he could have sent redacted versions that showed doctors notes nurse detai, actual injury photos taken by the hospital and all the stuff done time of surgery standards of care etc all while redacting his name etc, yet they didn't do this either 🤔. Also apparently this attack happened at or extremely close to a major fuckin airport?? Yo those areas are super high security, how come nobody witnesses this and it wasn't on the news plus every 3 letter alphabet agency would be all over this case local police state police FBI DHS ATF ICE and lastly CIA because they all get involved when incidents happen in or around airports sooo wtf is going on? Plus if this is being taken care of by the FBI why are you working with garo? When you should have the full resources of the FBI plus it's witnesses protection if this shit actually happened.


    Most importantly I hate bullshit I paid my friend in LA 100$ yesterday and he confirmed he just filed a fioa freedom of information act form to the FBI regarding this entire matter. So legally the us government is required by law to respond to the citizens if this shit is true so he should get legitimate documents from them.


    Alot of stuff doesn't add up this isn't even including all the previous fishy stuff the family did with this case

    Yes they stated the attack occurred on April 30th it happened in the state of New Jersey. They didn't state in the press conference that anyone was arrested. They just stated that the person was stabbed 9 times in the neck etc then listed post hospital care about the patient and the expected outcomes etc which I found strange because isn't releasing information on a patient against hippa? And even more so when it's apparently tied to a criminal case .


    Now the opposition claims that the photos shown were fabricated and apparently a decent amount of evidence was found that proves the images of the person's supposed injuries were something that is easily found in Google images sooo I don't know who to believe in this situation. What I want is both parties to go to court and the police. Stop this nonsense press conference circus shit let the real truth be known and those guilty judged enough of this public opinion shit. We need something with a real bite real risks ie judges prosector and police!

    You are thinking of the CIA

    The FBI does not operate in secrecy and if it's true, a US citizen getting attacked by a Chinese national on behalf of a Korean citizen falls pretty squarely in their jurisdiction and not New York's. If it's true, that's the part that makes the most sense

    Alright but wouldn't an attack on someone first be investigated by local police then state PD before it gets to the FBI. If someone was attacked I'm sure the first call is to 911 which phones the police first not the FBI. The FBI uses tighter security than local police so normally people wouldn't know what cases they are taking is why I'm trying to understand how a forgien national YouTuber knows the FBI is on the case?


    Plus couldn't anyone in the USA prove this happened by petitioning NYC/New Jersey police and then the FBI using foia and get bodycam footage dispatch records etc and prove this 100% legitimately happened.

    This isn't some Hollywood movie. But the proofs are too flimsy

    If it's all true than yes he needs to be in prison. But some stuff just seems strange. Like seriously think who randomly has interrogation/interviews with random friends or family and out of this who start randomly recording every conversation you have with them and even then why hold all this stuff if it's important why not goto the police or intervene why wait until one person is long dead to start acting.


    Then this whole situation with the assassination attempt, from what I read no other law enforcement agency is involved but somehow one of the countries top federal agencies that operate on secrecy the FBI is involved? This sounds like a plot out of 007 or mission impossible. The other thing that stood out was they mentioned wanting to wait until after the presidential election before doing a press conference to release this stuff? Why wait I'm not understanding this? If your goal is to get some justice what's all these strange games and stuff just go to the police and the prosecutor office and submit everything.


    Maybe I'm missing something. But for me if something like this has happened to me or my family first response would be to intervene and confront the parties responsible or immediately report it to the authorities so that the situation and any evidence can be validated investigated and action taken I wouldn't be doing all this odd stuff involving YouTube cyber wreckers this is an odd case not sure what the end goal here is