Facts lol my little brother loves this Soo much and he's 25 yet he gets e excited about this like a little kid and he's rewatched 6 times already
Posts by kazuyakamenashi
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This is true and not just for us it's true for any country. If you have a celebrity that will increase your nations prestige. In the end it serves you. Not just pride but profit too. More tourists means more tax dollars more money means slightly better services and maybe if you are lucky some of that money goes directly in your pocket. Most people don't give a damn about the celebrity as long as whatever they are doing benefits us in some fashion that's all that matters in the end
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So, they are saying that the clips are edited out of context and the guy posted some longer versions of them which do give a bit of credence to that claim
External Content www.instagram.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.At least in his case he is relating a story told to him, and its clearer that HE didn't view the supposed video.
Still creeps and cant wait to see them get comeuppance.
Regardless if he did or didn't see the clips, shit like this isn't something to be discussed openly with others. If you are " concerned" talk to the involved parties first. Not everyone is comfortable with very private intimate things about them being made public.
I don't get what's with people being so damn nosy these days where they have to share other people's lives for their own 15 minutes of fame. Not even once do they think about the other person and how they would feel .
Even if this story is fake or real, the question is what good does it do to air out someone else's life? Are you doing her any favors? Let these people choose themselves if they want others to know what's happening in their private life
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Everyone confirming the whole kdrama plot was bullshit was my fault. I thought this whole thing ridiculous and wanted to know what was bs. I submitted my reports from the FBI. The fioa form from the FBI. NJ office two weeks ago said this didn't exist.
You're welcome something anyone else here could have done eons ago
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Yes jinho is just as bad. But this family using garo and rubber stamping everything he says is what's going to tank their case. Is Soohyun a groomer? Likely BUT here's the problem nobody will be able to say for 100% certainty because they people keep discrediting themselves by making up Soo much BS and lies to the point everyone could genuinely believe everything was made up and it wouldn't be hard for his lawyers to present it that way. I knew so much about it was B's that's why I contacted the FBI and they told me it was B's a week ago. Now the Korean consulate just stated it was fake there was no attack and the audio they released was fake. If this does go to court the family will lose big time you can't lie to the public and then lie to serious government agencies and expect in a court case to be believed.
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I like how you agree and quote a post about narratives, agendas and uncertainty. You then instantly ignore all of that, literally in the next sentence by sharing uncertainty and evidence that isn't fact. You can't talk about cyber wreckers and not think Lee Jinho hasn't muddle thing situation more than anyone else in this.
I haven't ignored him he's trash too. But he isn't running around saying outlandish shit. It's crazy when he seems reasonable. When the opposition says they have 9th room stuff on Soohyun but won't release it and won't take it to the police 🤡. Then says he's a CCP spy and sends out assassin's 🤡 if this actor is that powerful how come all these people aren't silenced Luigi magioni a random middle class nobody took out one of the most powerful richest ceos like it was nothing just off impulse. Yet I'm supposed to believe this rich actor is supposed to be a Mafia kingpin can't hire a competent person to ice someone? When a random nobody does it like it was Tuesday 🤡. Both sides of this case are bad just one isn't as ridiculous and playing us for fools
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I don’t follow the whole story closely but all I know the media likes to twist facts to suit their own narrative including main stream like CNN and BBC etc. That is the reason I take everything I read with a healthy dose of salt whether it from gossip papers or main media. Both sides have their own agenda. Neither of them cares for the poor girl when she was alive or dead. I wouldn’t take anybody’s side in this whole mess.
Exactly when there's too much uncertainty when stuff is shared it's really hard to tell what's fact or not especially when people's emotions are deeply into it. When we first heard about this they only wanted him to acknowledge they had a relationship that was it. Then it turned into this mess. Then later her own mother told people they didn't blame him and told people to leave him alone.
But with the cyber wreckers being involved and having the family blessings to keep saying and release whatever then the the ethically dubious practices from their lawyers just muddies this situation more.
As a stranger and not related I find it hard to be upset with one party especially when the effected party literal fuckin mother tells you to leave him be who am I to say no?
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Even before the lawsuit, I heard from friends who read about this that the family did not care at all about Saeron when she was alive. That they are so concern now is a sus. It is better that it is legal and criminal case now. Let all lies and fabrication be separated from the truth. That is the true justice that they can give Saeron.
The fioa request came back from the FBI they stated they had nothing in their records regarding this case. They even asked for a correspondence within 48hrs to provide additional information about the case, so they can check their records again. The response was from the FBI New Jersey office. Hmm garo seems real fishy now I doubt the USA government is lying about this case. But 🤡 unintentionally got the US government involved lol
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I said this from the very beginning, that her family should have gone to the police with this information and had this formally investigated. The police can get actual search warrants and do legitimate forensic analysis of items. Going through a youtuber back and forth is very sloppy and unprofessional. This should have been the evidence that they took to the police for sure. If they think a crime was committed. If it was my family, I would have been gone to the cops. (Even though I don't really trust the korean police, but that's another story for another day).
I actually hope KSH company wins the lawsuit against the youtube channel, so they can get shut down. They don't need to be allowed the power anymore to take advantage of dead people and their families. Anyone can see that this GSR or whatever institute don't care about Saeron. They don't respect any other celebs, why would they care about her? They just want the clout and are using her family for that purpose.
I don't fool with KSH anymore, whether he groomed her or not, dating a newly turned 19 (legal age in korea) when you are IN YOUR 30s is peak creep behavior. Even if I didn't know about all the other things, just knowing that he did that disgusts me. It hits different when you were that 16,17,18,19 year old girl being taken advantage of by a GROWN man. It makes me want to throw up. I hope he gets whatever appropriate punishment comes after they do an ACTUAL investigation and not some random pictures and audio from youtube. So unprofessional.
If I was a member of Saeron's family and saw everything going on right now, I would be slapping EVERYONE and demanding it be taken to the police immediately.
Exactly why I said the family didn't give a fuck about her. They went to a cyber wrecker YouTuber the same trash that attacked her online. I bet they have absolutely NOTHING on Soohyun. Because me thinking as a normal rational human being if me or my family was in such a scenario I would go to the police first and if that didn't work I'd try to confront the responsible parties myself if that's not an option THEN I would restort to opening stuff up to the media. Another reason they don't care they literally approve what ever shit garo says even the outlandish stuff. There's no way they buried their hands in the same and don't know what's happening with each report or press conference.
Yes him dating her at his age if he truly met her at 19 that is strange BUT I also can't fully judge I know people in my family including my parents who had a 15yr age gap and they knew each other since they were younger. Then the double standards add to this my sister dates a much younger man. But nobody cares. But when she dated a guy much older than herself in the past people acted as if he was the devil incarnate sooo I can't fully be unbiased about that.
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I'm not confusing them, but did you ever see South Koreans making fun of politicians?
Yes everyday 🤣. Also I don't understand why people are upset over this video. Look both actor and actress agreed to the skits and knew what they signed up to do on the show they had the scripts etc and could have declined the offer BUT decided to do it anyway, they came to earn their paychecks so why are people upset?
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🤔 Are you in denial or something? Almost everything released by then has been challenged as false. Including the latest claims out out. So you are telling me that the burning sun reporter, she's lying then when she claimed their stuff is lies. You telling me Wonbin is lying to when he denied any involvement. Remember everything released by garo is approved by the family and unfortunately too many people take everything said as God's word itself no verification or proof. They could say Soohyun has a nuclear bomb under his desk . That must be true right?
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How can you not believe that? Irrespective of anything Garo or the family has done, Kim Soohyun met this girl at like 13, convinced her to sign on to the agency he co-founded when she was 15, started having her over to his house to cook meals for him and his family by the time she was 17 and took her skiresorts and whatnot, either was already in a relationship with or started one the second she became of legal age. That he groomed her irrespective of whether he had started a sexual relationship when she was a minor is not really debatable, how much the Kim Saeron's family knew and when you can be speculative about but two wrongs don't make a right.
After her death Kim Soohyun and Gold Medalist continued to deny Kim Saeron, who basically spent all the formative years of her life with Kim Soohyun, ever having been in a relationship with him and threatened legal action against those that claimed otherwise including Kim Saeron's mother as recently as 2 months ago.
You know all this, how on Earth can you be speculative on whether he is the bad guy?
I'm not saying this dude is a saint. But right now it's difficult to definitively prove those claims when Soo much about this case was fabricated and lied about hell even Wonbin made statement denying any involvement in this entire event. This unfortunately calls into question the motive and credibility of the family.
Not including the fact that her own mother told people to leave Soohyun alone.
If all of this is true than yes fuck him. But right now as it stands it's not looking like a conviction. If this went to court it would get thrown out instantly because the witnesses and evidence is compromised it can't be trusted when there's Soo many inconsistency and lies entwined in it.
I get it though we see someone that's a victim and we want justice no matter what or the cost everything can be ignored entirely as long as you latch on to one thing out of everything else out of 100 things one of them just had to be true right?
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It just gets crazier. I'm not sure if I can believe that Soohyun is the bad guy here anymore. More articles and evidence keeps getting released including the informant admitting to putting out fake stuff, and then now everyone's heroine the sbs reporter that revealed burning sun. She just filed lawsuits against garo and others over this as she stated this stuff is fake. Soo hmmm 🤔 I don't know but it might look like everyone might need to go personally apologize to this actor. They better hope for their own sakes this case doesn't end up being fake
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There's so much going on here and it's beginning to stink. If the family had this information, why didn't they release it from the get-go instead of dragging it out over several months? If this is the strongest evidence to prove he's a predator then everything that's been said before was unneccessary...
Something about the way that youtube channel and her family are handling this is very sus to me.
I think since the youtube channel is getting sued by KSH, they are (again) using saeron's family as a pawn to try and dig themselves out of a lawsuit.
His label claims this is AI generated audio. If that's the case, then they need to do a proper test on the original evidence itself to determine if that is true or not.
For the sake of Saeron and what she went through with literally no there for her (ksh, family, etc. all not there for her when she needed them), then that's just even sadder.
And who is this random "informant" somewhere in America? And some random korean/chinese descent person was able to track this indivudal and then stab them multiple times??? Like...if any of that is true, it's crazy. I want to hear both sides because I want to piece together what really happened.
For the sake of Saeron's memory, I wish KSH, this youtube channel, and her family who clearly isn't respecting her memory if they had this info from the beginning and withheld it instead of presenting it as the evidence, all to just rest and let Saeron have peace finally.
That youtube channel has turned this into some celeb scandal and it's very disrespectful to Saeron. But it looks like no one cared for her when she was alive. No one had her back in life, and it looks like no one has her back in death either.
Exactly and what puzzles me is the fact people want Soohyun to be guilty by any means necessary it's scarily alarming it's nearly Trump maga cult levels of scary.
If he's truly guilty he should be punished. But this is scary that so many supposedly intelligent independent people are just blindly believing everything that about YouTube cyber wrecker throws at them is insane. This informant didn't like the stuff being debunked and sent garo a video of his " injuries" the dude stated he went home to do it briefly, despite NOT being discharged from the hospital 🤡 um you have a phone, you could have taken the video in your hospital room. Two the sutures aren't visible like shown in the images, making it look suspiciously fake, then the person, explain they couldn't show more because of the other arm being injured, um phones have selfie cams, you don't need to do much to see everything just press a button to have the camera flip.
Then this person's wife says that the case will be concluded in a few months. Ok wtf? How do you know? Isn't the FBI on the case how can they tell you a deadline?? Two how come the wife couldn't shoot this video for you? Two how does a person who's been stabbed 9 times in the neck leave a hospital? Right after it happens to shoot a video because garo complained about the " evidence" being scrutinized. Um you'd be in serious if not critical condition from such an attack and in no condition for this stunt. Plus people have access to their medical records electronically and in their charts at the hospital he could have sent redacted versions that showed doctors notes nurse detai, actual injury photos taken by the hospital and all the stuff done time of surgery standards of care etc all while redacting his name etc, yet they didn't do this either 🤔. Also apparently this attack happened at or extremely close to a major fuckin airport?? Yo those areas are super high security, how come nobody witnesses this and it wasn't on the news plus every 3 letter alphabet agency would be all over this case local police state police FBI DHS ATF ICE and lastly CIA because they all get involved when incidents happen in or around airports sooo wtf is going on? Plus if this is being taken care of by the FBI why are you working with garo? When you should have the full resources of the FBI plus it's witnesses protection if this shit actually happened.
Most importantly I hate bullshit I paid my friend in LA 100$ yesterday and he confirmed he just filed a fioa freedom of information act form to the FBI regarding this entire matter. So legally the us government is required by law to respond to the citizens if this shit is true so he should get legitimate documents from them.
Alot of stuff doesn't add up this isn't even including all the previous fishy stuff the family did with this case
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Again, the FBI is not the CIA. We don't know everything they do but knowing they're looking into active cases is pretty common.
As for the rest, it depends
Do they ever mention when the alleged attack happened? Or that they for sure caught the Chinese national?
Because if so, it'd be easy to see why the case got punted to the feds since there's a reasonable expectation of another hit
Yes they stated the attack occurred on April 30th it happened in the state of New Jersey. They didn't state in the press conference that anyone was arrested. They just stated that the person was stabbed 9 times in the neck etc then listed post hospital care about the patient and the expected outcomes etc which I found strange because isn't releasing information on a patient against hippa? And even more so when it's apparently tied to a criminal case .
Now the opposition claims that the photos shown were fabricated and apparently a decent amount of evidence was found that proves the images of the person's supposed injuries were something that is easily found in Google images sooo I don't know who to believe in this situation. What I want is both parties to go to court and the police. Stop this nonsense press conference circus shit let the real truth be known and those guilty judged enough of this public opinion shit. We need something with a real bite real risks ie judges prosector and police!
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You are thinking of the CIA
The FBI does not operate in secrecy and if it's true, a US citizen getting attacked by a Chinese national on behalf of a Korean citizen falls pretty squarely in their jurisdiction and not New York's. If it's true, that's the part that makes the most sense
Alright but wouldn't an attack on someone first be investigated by local police then state PD before it gets to the FBI. If someone was attacked I'm sure the first call is to 911 which phones the police first not the FBI. The FBI uses tighter security than local police so normally people wouldn't know what cases they are taking is why I'm trying to understand how a forgien national YouTuber knows the FBI is on the case?
Plus couldn't anyone in the USA prove this happened by petitioning NYC/New Jersey police and then the FBI using foia and get bodycam footage dispatch records etc and prove this 100% legitimately happened.
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This isn't some Hollywood movie. But the proofs are too flimsy
If it's all true than yes he needs to be in prison. But some stuff just seems strange. Like seriously think who randomly has interrogation/interviews with random friends or family and out of this who start randomly recording every conversation you have with them and even then why hold all this stuff if it's important why not goto the police or intervene why wait until one person is long dead to start acting.
Then this whole situation with the assassination attempt, from what I read no other law enforcement agency is involved but somehow one of the countries top federal agencies that operate on secrecy the FBI is involved? This sounds like a plot out of 007 or mission impossible. The other thing that stood out was they mentioned wanting to wait until after the presidential election before doing a press conference to release this stuff? Why wait I'm not understanding this? If your goal is to get some justice what's all these strange games and stuff just go to the police and the prosecutor office and submit everything.
Maybe I'm missing something. But for me if something like this has happened to me or my family first response would be to intervene and confront the parties responsible or immediately report it to the authorities so that the situation and any evidence can be validated investigated and action taken I wouldn't be doing all this odd stuff involving YouTube cyber wreckers this is an odd case not sure what the end goal here is
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if there is press conference then hopefully case is going forward in police/prosecution as well
Yes the police need to get this guy and if he can weasel out of the justice system then maybe someone can get Luigi out of jail tell him he has a new target
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