They are avoiding saturation due to have way too many hit songs released very closely
Posts by Icaro_Ribeiro
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I'm not going to elaborate further because I'm not in the moody of picking fights atm
But it has mostly to do to what attracted those fans into to fandom in the first place
In the case of Twice I think a small part of the fandom come to them because they found a particular member attractive (I'm not talking about how they look, but attractive here understand "I want to be your fan"), whereas for BTS and BP many fans were drawn specifically because of 1-2 members and learned how to like their interactions with other members rather than being fans of the other members themselves
And it's not exactly a subproduct of individual activities, as this is a well observable case even when the group only promotes together
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BOP, their best song yet
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I do care in the sense I'm aware they need a minimum level of success to keep getting quality content and budget, and I'm also self aware companies have certain expectations that need to be met, not meeting such expectations the group will just be quickly replaced or becoming a non priority inside the company
But otherwise I don't give a damn about my favorite groups being the top sellers or anything alike. If my group is popular enough to have long term stable careers with a good influx of quality content I don't really care whether or not other groups sells more
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Reviving this thread
My thoughts didn't changed at all
Riize, TWS, BND, ZB1
All have so far displayed significant results
I think we can fairly call them 5th gen already, they don't look related to Stray Kids, TxT or Treasure in any way
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FATE got a PAK? I had no idea
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Active Girl Groups most recent Spotify Global results
1. New Jeans Super Shy - #4 - Day 14 - 4,726,910 (filtered)
*2. Illit Magnetic - #10 - Day 14 - 3,939,659 (filtered)
3. Lsf Easy - #52 - Day 4 - 2,122,349 (filtered)
*4. BabyMonster Sheesh - * - * - 1,803,215 (filtered)
5. Aespa Drama - #71 - Day 2 — 1,607,616 (filtered)
6. Twice I Got You - #130 - Day 1 - 1,481,182 (filtered)
--- below not charting ---
* 7. Kiss of Life - did not chart - Day 2 - 1,206,314 (unfiltered)
8. Gidle Super Lady - did not chart - Day 2 - 1,115,268 (unfiltered)
9. Ive Baddie - did not chart - Day 4 - 987,194 (unfiltered)
Baby Dumbpster is doing fine. I was right with my concerns after all, if they can chart that high with the crappy they are releasing they will soon have a big hit. YG can sleep at night
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Give it up. This isn't even competitive any more. I'm more concerned with ILLIT than I've EVER been worried about IVE
I second this and add that never felt IVE was a competition for NJ in any way. This fear was always utterly and completely one sided
The group who I could see challenging NJ numbers was LSRF but barely
Even Baemon "scared" me more than IVE, and seen by their results so far I can say this is quite an statement
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Who revived this thread
Anyway
IVE vs NJ is too 2022 for me. It's clear both groups are nowhere near the same level in Spotify streams. NJ "competition" (for lack of better word, read it "a group with comparable numbers") is ILLIT
IVE is pulling numbers bellow LSRF, G Idle and only 200k above Aespa. I don't see the point in engage in discussions like this. NJ songs from 2 years ago with close to 0 playlisting right now are still pulling 300k daily streams which is the level of the BEST title track of IVE. What point are you guys even trying to prove?
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If Twice is in the ranking we can quickly rule this out as a meaningful metric for virals of any sort
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I'm confused. Something happened?
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Projected to debut around #99. Without the Beyonce songs could've been like #70.
This is incredible
A really historical debut
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What consistency? Each case is different and particular. Lesserafim, a 2 years old group who is supposedly growing bigger each comeback had a 33% decrease of sales despite no having a major controversy like twice had with chaeyoung last year, they totally fill the criteria for the curse. You still thinking that this is solely about chinese sales despite I explaining several times that is not just tell me you are ignorant about the whole thing.
It's 27% if we count the same window you used for Twice (6 weeks)
Otherwise it's a 30% decrease for LSRF and 25% for TWICE
Both groups have had a similar share of decrease in sales. For some unknown reason you call LSRF fraudulent, but TWICE not. The math is not mathing
The only reason why I keep entertaining your thread is because I amuse myself with all the mental gymnastics you and your kind come with to move the goalposts in every circumstances because you guys don't accept Twice numbers are being slowly demolished by newer groups
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Genuinely laughing my ass off at all the morons who were talking that this thread was incorrect, like you clowns won't learn about charts no matter what
With Youth
Week 1: 1019516
Week 2: 152055
Week 3: 25879
Week 4: 26843
Week 5: 26050
Week 6: 5148
Total: 1255491
Ready to Be:
Week 1: 1427039
Week 2: 21504
Week 3: 59620
Week 4: 22985
Week 5: 2453
Week 6: 93000
Total: 1626601
Just loud and dumb all of you, not only because a 20% decrease of sales is completely normal on kpop but jyp can perfectly ship a considerable amount of albums in the upcoming weeks, it took months for them to ship the 1.7M of pre orders for ready to be.
Just after ready to be a twice member got in one of the worst controversies on the industry with half of kpop sending death threats and bashing twice for months, like these numbers are completely normal, not even close to the groups losing half their sales overnight.
LSRF decreased 27% and you still called their sales fraudulent, even though their Chinese sales never accounted for even 10% of their total pre orders
You're a clown. If you want to pick a narrative at least be consistent
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But it could explain why they are doing so well on Spotify, they count it the moment the music starts playing.
They dont. You need to listen at least 30 seconds to count
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Buying views with adds not help for yt chart tho and you can see even during first day if like to view ratio is bad, the group is most likely using adds. I think YT is way more transparent than Spotify.
Having to rely in a top 100 chart to galge legimit streams is a issue on itself because most groups can't chart at all, hence we never got to discover exactly how much views are ad-generated
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Show me at least one example of this
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