[enter-talk/theqoo] More witness of Kim Garam's past (DUMP)


  • [enter-talk/theqoo] MORE WITNESS OF KIM GARAM'S PAST (DUMP)

    [enter-talk] (CLASSMATE) LE SSERAFIM'S KIM GARAM WAS A SCHOOL VIOLENCE ASSAILANT


    I went to the same middle school as Kim Garam for 3 years and she was so famous for her wrongdoings that it was to the point that there were no people who didn't know her in the schools around ours. For a year, I was being f*cked over by Kim Garam and her clique and was getting so much psychological stress. Because of that, I severely detested going to school and every time there was a big commotion or violence happening in middle school, Kim Garam was almost always involved. I don't know if she was smoking or drinking but if there was a kid that she didn't like, she would always come with her clique and curse at them, torment them, attack them through FB... it was a daily thing for them to pick on one kid in front of everyone and shame and laugh at them. Her mouth was full of swears and s*xual jokes all the time... She was seriously the first girl I've ever seen with so many s*xual jokes in her....


    As for the school violence, I was a victim. School violence doesn't only involve fists right... What's clever about being shamed is that there is no clear evidence left and it's an issue that can be left in the past easily. Seriously, it's so unfair for the victims who were so severely tormented like me. What's worse is that I feel like they are slowly deleting all their comments and burying everything. Those were things that happened 3~4 years ago so I have even less evidence and it's just so frustrating. Seriously, as soon as I heard news of her debuting, the victims from my high school and the high school around mine all came out and were wondering with what kind of guts is she debuting with (T/N: OP is now in high school) and were saying about how all her past will be revealed. If you were from the same middle school as her, you would know everything. All the shields that she's getting right now are from the kids who used to be from her clique back then.


    As expected, birds of a feather flock together. Do you think that iljin kids will f*ck over kids of their own clique? Of course they will treat them well... It's not the time to be listening to assailants but to the victims.. It's seriously disgusting and traumatic to see the kids who acted the same way as her shielding her... To the kids who are saying that everything was just a joke while trying to bury this down, please think about the victims once. For the evidence, I'll leave a graduation album, the swears on TikTok and a school student ID.



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    post response:
    [+1,426][-15]
    original post: here


    1. [+480, -2]
    It's true that HYBE should just send her away.... the finger pictures(?) keep coming out;; It's way better to scrap everything and re-produce the album, the recording and the MV. Just try to take her in, what help will that bring?; We are telling you to postpone their schedule... We don't care if the plan gets tangled up. A normal contract lasts 7 years so it's better to start with clean members for the next 7 years


    2. [+203, 0]
    It's true that if you think about the victims, you shouldn't be debuting her. Seeing how big this is becoming on Pann, the "school violence" tag will follow her


    3. [+169, 0]
    It's already debunked that all the clarification posts were written by the same person (T/N: see post below)ㅋㅋㅋ she's a 05-liner and is still a student. Those are not things of the present but they are at least 2 years old no? How can you say that she was reflecting?ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I don't believe that she was reflecting and because school violence assailants always get to continue their promotions, they are just debuting anyone. Please just throw them away. Must be damn nice to make a right-wing-school-violence group


    3. [+167, -1]
    Move this to enter-talk so a lot of people can see it


    4. [+134, -3]
    ?
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    "Hybe emphasized 'The allegations now include defamation of character against a member who is still a minor whose debut is approaching, so we will take legal action without any agreement or leniency.'"

    5. [+127, 0]
    Her best friend's post on the featured talks disappeared ㅇㅇ... HYBE has gone insane... Just how talented is Garam for them to stick to her like thatㅋㅋㅋ f*ckㅋㅋㅋ S*xrafim, congrats on your debut..


    6. [+123, 0]
    Seriously, she's no different than the bullies who were at my school 10 years ago... whether they were guys or girls, they made so many s*xual jokes and most of them made SNS posts like hers... For real, I'm getting PTSD because of those iljins back thenㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ sigh...




    [theqoo] HYBE ROOKIE GROUL LE SSERAFIM. KIM GARAM'S FRIENDS ARE CYBER BULLYING THE KIDS THEY USED TO TORMENT RIGHT NOW


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    "I'll report not from the assailant but from the victim's point of view from which the iljin girls were tormenting them by attacking their name in front of everyone. Even if the victims have a lot of reveal, they are scared that it will hurt the people around them so they are staying still. They mentioned their real name so Kim Garam's friends called the victims asking why they are exposing them and picking on them. Please help"

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    "Son Kyung Seo: @Choi Jooyeon there's XX too.. (T/N: XX is the alleged victim)
    > Choi Jooyeon: @Son Kyung Seo: Wow ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
    > Son Kyung Seo: It's only been a few hours since the controversy was revealed
    > XX: @Son Kyung Seo No wait a bit...
    >> Son Kyung Seo: XX say something go
    >> XX: Garim-ah, I support you


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    (Son Kyung Seo and Hye Ddo are friends with Garam)


    original post: here


    1. Seriously birds of a feather


    2. Everything else aside, for the kids who are exposing everything right now, this bullying is still an ongoing thing. Every time they expose something, it takes a lot of courage so for a company to just brush it off is like laughing back to their faces and will make their school daily lives even more difficult. If HYBE is in their right mind, I think that they should be careful that this doesn't fire back at their artist and not say that they are taking strong legal actions.


    3. They are still tormenting them in real time


    4. If they are gonna deny everything, they should at least make sure that her friends shut upㅋㅋㅋㅋ


    5. They are birds of a feather aigoo.... sticking with her shows HYBE's level...


    6. They are giving way too much of that iljin vibe


    7. Ohh scary


    8. Birds of a feather


    9. Her friends are instead making it even harder for Garam to debutㅋㅋ


    10. Wow... the victims are way too pitiful... ㅠㅠ




    [theqoo] HYBE GIRL GROUP LE SSERAFIM'S KIM GARAM'S FB MESSAGE EXPOSED

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    "Garam: Yah


    OP: Yup


    Garam: Do you know the kids at Gwang Myung?


    OP: No


    Garam: Then why are you sending them friend requests?


    OP: I wanted to get close to them, why?


    Garam: Ah ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ"

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    "The way Kim Garam shamed others
    If there was a kid from another school who sent her school's friend a friend request, she would FB message all of them to nitpick and shame them"


    original post: here


    1. Ew


    2. Companies need to go through their trainees' student records ㄷㄷㄷㄷ


    3. If she was at the age of graduation, there would've had even bigger evidences than the ones we got


    4. Seriously, send her away before it's too late


    5. Just cut her off...


    6. Please cut her off already ㅠㅠㅠ I'll be understanding if they delayed their debut ㅠㅠㅠㅠ


    7. At the end, this is all the same personㅋㅋㅋ Do they think that they can turn her into a victim just in one day?


    8. She's an onion... why would they debut someone like her? I don't understand HYBE


    9. The people who don't understand the nuance in her words really have no tactㅋㅋㅋㅋ


    10. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ it was real... she's still not withdrawing?




    [theqoo] LE SSERAFIM KIM GARAM'S CLARIFICATION POSTS, THE 3 PEOPLE WERE THE SAME PERSON



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    "Title of the post: Were the clarification post all made by the same employee?

    if you look at the right side, there is a black dotㅋㅋㅋ Just how much in a rush were they that they didn't even wipe their camera lens and took the pictures and upload them?"


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    "The pattern of the table was all the same and only the angle of the picture is different


    Please share it a lot"


    original post: here


    1. Seems like this was a f*cking pain in the ass for the employee ㅋㅋㅋㅋ


    2. Aigo


    3. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ this is comedy. HYBE and Source Music are freaking hilarious


    4. Wow, why do it like that?...ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ but you can tell right away that she was an iljin.... Her skirt was severely shortㅋㅋㅋㅋ


    5. HYBE-yah... even small companies don't act like this nowadays... sigh, f*ck


    6. Wow but look at the hand writingㅋㅋㅋㅋ what kind of high schooler write numbers like that ㅋㅋㅋ


    7. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ the way she writes her "2" is too funnyㅋㅋ


    8. She has that typical bully makeup


    9. Employee, you worked hard...


    10. The way they wrote the numbers in the first and second picture is the same

  • the letter from hybe was too vague

    this is gonna end up badly if they won't come up with something else

    hybe has to interview her classmates to make sure it was indeed fake

  • Another netizen leaks more lewd pictures of Le Sserafim's Kim Garam


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    Article: "Le Sserafim Kim Garam's pictures are up again"

    Source: Pann

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    I thought there was nothing problematic at first but look at the second picture ㅋㅋ… f*cking legendary.


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    1. [+225, -1] Such a twisted person took a selca like this.. this b*tch seriously Garam7.jpg
    2. [+195, -0] Ah f*ck seriouslyㅋㅋㅋㅋ...an '05 liner is living a life like that
    3. [+186, -0] Wow, the comments are seriously disgusting ㅈㅇㅇ 얘if she doesn't quit now and retire from the industry her group is going to be in big trouble
    4. [+78, -0] Did she not get a home education? Why is she so dirty? Looks cheap..
    5. [+58, -0] She'll come out and pretend not to know anything and take cute selcas like "Oh, my, just got a haircut" .... and to think she's a dirty person
    6. [+44, -0] But no one wakes up one day and just decides to become a trainee to debut as an idol... if she really wanted to be a singer, she should've lived a normal life and not do such dirty thingsㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
    7. [+39, -0] She's probably the worst of all of 3rd and 4th gen idols.. is HYBE really serious about making her debut right now?
    8. [+32, -0] Ah, you can tell her character from that 2nd picture alone... wow, truly the worst idol ever;;;;;;;
    9. [+30, -0] Even if she debuts now, I bet she's the type if someone approaches her, she'll probably give them an earful
    10. [+29, -0] Wow, a total school bully, I honestly thought she was just a bit weird now but it looks like this is her character. Who knows about other members' character since they're in the same group.. HYBE should just kick her out now and let the group promote as 5.. what an ugly b*tch.
  • Wow, the fact that there are even more rumours coming out after Source has threatened to sue is interesting. Do you think there could be some truth in the rumours and maybe Source doesn't want to kick her out because they have already paid out for the groups debut?

  • Damn, even if the bullying is false, the sexual connotation pictures gonna follow her forever...

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  • I was a middle-schooler once, but are they this cringe now?

    I'm going to be neutral on this, but there's definitely something fishy going on. I hope for the sake of the other members and the group that this girl didn't lie to her agency and painted herself as the victim because if proven true, she would seal their fate even before debut.

  • Damn, even if the bullying is false, the sexual connotation pictures gonna follow her forever...

    who doesn't like a good fingerbang


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  • Hybe is so unlucky with ggs. This is blowing out of proportions. The Korean side is not calming down. Maybe hybe should have waited for some days, searched more and given a statement now i feel. But again these pics are distasteful but she doesn't deserve to be thrown out because of it.

    The bullying one has many accusations floating around but no one is actually coming out, it's just rumors still? Also is hybe so dumb to take in such troublesome girl just because they think they can bury it because atm it blowing up on their face. Sakura and Chaewon were supposed to have a peaceful debut. The other girls involved too.

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  • Hybe is so unlucky with ggs. This is blowing out of proportions. The Korean side is not calming down. Maybe hybe should have waited for some days, searched more and given a statement now i feel. But again these pics are distasteful but she doesn't deserve to be thrown out because of it.

    The bullying one has many accusations floating around but no one is actually coming out, it's just rumors still? Also is hybe so dumb to take in such troublesome girl just because they think they can bury it because atm it blowing up on their face. Sakura and Chaewon were supposed to have a peaceful debut.

    It is strange that she has so many rumours about her and that they are continuing even after people were threatened by hybe. Is this one girl really worth ruining the whole groups reputation in Korea?

  • The police should conduct investigation if this involves past and ongoing school violence. Whether Kim Garam was the real perpetrator, bystander or victim, the stories coming out about her friends threatening and tormenting other kids who exposed her is worrying. The focus should be on bullying/school violence part, not her being horny teenager.

  • 5. [+127, 0]
    Her best friend's post on the featured talks disappeared ㅇㅇ... HYBE has gone insane... Just how talented is Garam for them to stick to her like thatㅋㅋㅋ f*ckㅋㅋㅋ S*xrafim, congrats on your debut..

    They already have an anti name for them :waterr:

  • If the bullying was so well known how did NO ONE in the process of letting her audition, letting her become a trainee, or debuting her find out? or at least take measurements to prevent this kind of scandal from happening? I am not understanding how this all went down with no one caring

    It's a good question, but I'm also thinking of Big Hit x Source's previous girl group and how they had a member that ended up blackmailing a famous actor and caused the entire group to disband.


    So I think they have some gaps in their process.

    let's be friends

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  • that hybe/soumu employee part was funny hehe

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  • This bullying scandal is so different from the rest. This is happening in real time and the kids are still teenagers going to school.


    But seeing Hybe statement it’s the same stance the other labels dropped when the bullying scandals were at it’s high. They investigate, drop a statement saying they’ll take legal action and then the victims don’t back down and more come out.


    Anyway, it’s going be a long week and I want Sakura to have a great debut.

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  • Why are people saying "how Hybe did not know about this" I'm sorry but kpop companies make mistakes all the time, that sensitive intro of Suga's song, the religious statue in HYLT, G idle stage cotroversy, Starship/Cravity fan list etc just to name a few, you know kpop companies are fallible too at the end of the day its still a human that have to work on all this kind of stuff, not a special entity or a robot

    narcissistic, my god i love it

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  • It's a good question, but I'm also thinking of Big Hit x Source's previous girl group and how they had a member that ended up blackmailing a famous actor and caused the entire group to disband.


    So I think they have some gaps in their process.

    Yep, Dahee blackmailed Lee Byunghun.

    There was also a scandal before that, a member left the group early and she was rumoured to be a sasaeng of Leeteuk. :pepe-cross:

  • I guess their investigation was just asking garam if it's true or not. She most probably denied everything. The fact that this has increased after they threatened to sue 💀

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  • Why are people saying "how Hybe did not know about this" I'm sorry but kpop companies make mistakes all the time, that sensitive intro of Suga's song, the religious statue in HYLT, G idle stage cotroversy, Starship/Cravity fan list etc just to name a few, you know kpop companies are fallible too at the the end of the day its still a human that have to work on all this kind of stuff, not a special entity

    True. Some of these companies probably have hundreds of trainees, I doubt they would be willing to put so much time and money into digging each of their pasts, and even so, privacy laws exist. They have no choice but to trust their words, and realistically you can never be sure who someone really is.

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