Posts by chounim

The hate was so forced. The more success Aespa achieve the harder it becomes for haters and trolls to get away with their bullshit unchecked like they did during Aespa's early years.

I still remember the time this forum allowed users here to make threads comparing Aespa's concept to prostitution and talking about SM opening a hotel to sell Aespa to rich men. The kind of things haters used to say (and get away with it) about Aespa were actually insane. No other group in kpop's history got that much, that intense hatred upon and leading to debut.

I Love it so much

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Wait....this is considered fatshaming?

Maybe my country is different this is.....so tame

You should consider the context of them continuously and repeatedly commenting on his body and weight, implying he's huge or too heavy. Then, them talking about him supposedly eating too much couldn't be possibly an innocent remark, it's indeed fat shaming and THAT is the message he will get.

It's actually sad seeing people here say that they don't even know this group or follow them but they still know about their fat shaming this boy, it's the same for me and there's no way they're still not aware of the backlash.

Not the Vernon Dursley reaction gif 😭

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jennie always eats

Cooking and eating simultaneously

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IT WAS LITERALLY ALWAYS YOU BUT IT WAS FUN

Don't remind me of those days, I pretend they never happened

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Ofc I’ve watched love sick the series. my fav was kinnporche and omg the offline drama in that fandom

Did you like me bringing all that drama to your timeline?

If I understood it correctly and if the allegations are true, this man groomed and used her as a child and then threw her away the moment she became an adult and at her lowest moment too. What remains to be seen is whether the debt he forced onto her had any bearing on her decision to end her life.

The fact her family is exposing him now means they know the "relationship" was wrong, creepy and criminal even. And yet, they allowed it to happen for 6 years without interfering or trying to help the child out. I think they're only acting out now in retaliation because they were robbed off their bread winner. This is such a heart wrenchingly sad situation. Just how much did this girl suffer and endure, and even in death she is still not allowed to rest in peace and I doubt it's because her relatives are seeking out justice for her, she's still being used.

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Yakuza fiancé

thank you

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Well done

Where are your dp and signature from?

In the past 2 years it's been just one kpop singer whom I listen to more than anyone else. Other than him, I listen to music in my mother tongue much more than kpop. A few years ago however kpop was indeed my most listened to genre

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Imagine using Heechul (or any Super Junior member) as a positive example of anything.

You can snicker about it all you want, yet it's an incident that did actually happen and it proves that idols can very much call out their fans for abusive behaviour, without it harming their careers and popularity

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They could even go as far as to say they hate that behaviour and they hate the people doing that and don't want them as fans.

There was an incident more than 15 years ago where Heechul said those exact same words to his fans for attacking Boa (if I recall correctly) and contrary to fans' common claims, it did not harm his image or popularity, and he was at the height of his peak at the time. So it's actually possible for idols to speak up against their own fans, especially to call out a behaviour that's universally recognised as toxic and wrong, no one fan fault them for it, not even their own fans.

If you're not willing to stand up to the very demographic you have the most influence on, and try to stop THEIR violence against women, who most of the time are your colleagues and friends even, then it's borderline offensive to be praised and rewarded for allegedly being a positive influence. This is taking advantage of women's suffering to hype up an already successful, privileged and rich man.

It always irks me when men get awarded for women's struggles, especially celebrities because you know most of the time it's a man doing literally the bare minimum or nothing at all. The bar is in hell, why exactly should we as women be expected to feel grateful to men for having BASIC decency? That should be the default setting and it does nothing to minimise misogyny, violence against women and femicide. It's like praising someone for simply existing.

I remember someone in this forum made a thread likening their concept to prostitution (and it was allowed to go on for several pages). I have been into / known about kpop for 15 years and I've never ever seen any group get so much hatred and vitriol before and at debut like Aespa did.

About lsf

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Considering their upcoming performances, finding a clear way to overcome any controversies regarding live singing is essential.

Did they consider..... VOCAL LESSONS?

this is actually pissing me off. How can the company and the idols themselves be aware of the issue but not pursue the most obvious, most logical and direct solution? I'm no expert but even I can tell that making the idols cry about it in a documentary won't solve the problem. Nothing will solve the problem except for the idols actually showing improvement.

At least I hope that they're indeed getting vocal lessons behind the scenes and we're just not aware of it. Otherwise the fact that they're actually knowledgeable about the exact problem and thinking about solutions but not considering the most obvious one is appalling.

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wow, you're kinda an

and miss me with the "my oppa" thing. it's extremely condescending not to mention has misogynistic connotations.

Especially because Seventeen (Korean) fans in particular have spoken up against Hybe after NJ's live, and if I'm not mistaken they were the only hybe fandom to do so. Misogyny is such a disease, you'll even turn against your allies because you're such a bigot

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They sent LSF against Idle coming off Tomboy back in 2022. Both Antifragile and Nxde had the same comeback day.

It's kind of weird they've done it twice now for their group's sophomore effort.

I dunno, just seems like that's their modus operandi.

I guess they are taking a page from YG's book. YG used to do that a lot. I remember them pairing up 2NE1 against SNSD in 2014 (Comeback Home vs Mr Mr), it reached the point where even when SM posponed SNSD's comeback, YG postponed 2NE1's too to make sure they'll still overlap lol. they also pulled the same trick the next year with Big Bang's Made vs EXO. it doesn't matter which group was more popular or successful but from YG's perspectiven pitting his top groups against SM top groups sparked fans' competitiveness which made them work harder to outdo the other fandom, not to mention the competition's effect on media and the general public.

the mere suggestion that, say, illit or any other new gg was "going against" Aespa will get people's attention and curiosity, which will make people check them out and increase the chance of new fans liking them and buying their music. it is a time old practice to make your groups come back around the same time as the most popular artists, to maximise attention by proxy. just the mere fact a top group ir performing in a music show potentially increases the viewership of the show

It was mostly financial shenanigans and crimes in SM's case but there was never something like this, where they got caught trashing other idols and organising witch hunts against them. No one taught hybe how to do that without actually getting caught I guess