is KPOP really 100% about music ??

no, it's always been about the visuals

It definitely isnt!

of course not. If so there should be no such thing as "visual" "maknae"

Nope. As a fan I'm a prime example.

not rlly

i agree w/ what you say

Idols personalities are as important as their music imo

To me it ultimately is as I normally don't follow all the stuff outside of the music but for a lot of people, it's how you described it.

It has never been only about the music

For me it's a mix of music choreo and visuals and general entertainment.

Also I can't read what u wrote

obviously. The variety is what makes most fans, fans. This is the biggest difference between the idol and the musician/singer/dancer etc..

That's why certain people claiming someone created 'Kpop' because they started the idol system, isn't wrong.

No.

I hope nobody actually claims that.

it would be nice but ofc it isn't

Not at all, what defines K-Pop for me and what makes it exciting is the combination of several forms of entertainment into one product.

Unfortunately, it's evident that individual factors (notably music, performances) are lacking in some artists when compared to those that focus purely on music, performing, etc... There's not many groups with the full package but when the whole thing is presented it's amazing and surpasses any other type of audio-visual entertainment in my opinion.

no

Obviously not and I could write a whole book about it

The music industry wether in kpop or the US has never 100% been about music, however kpop is disgustingly moreso about looks (visuals) and fantasizing, infantilization and shipping.

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Not at all, what defines K-Pop for me and what makes it exciting is the combination of several forms of entertainment into one product.

Unfortunately, it's evident that individual factors (notably music, performances) are lacking in some artists when compared to those that focus purely on music, performing, etc... There's not many groups with the full package but when the whole thing is presented it's amazing and surpasses any other type of audio-visual entertainment in my opinion.

And the sad thing about this is that many of these groups not only are the music TERRIBLE, but so are the performances.. the severe lack of talent and contrived and obvious assigned over the top personalities to appeal to the tween/teen stans! Ew

Depends on who you ask.

For me, it's not 100%, but it's 98%. 98% for the music alone. The other 2% is reserved for songs w/ good choreo (visual entertainment) -- even with this, though, I'm rarely just sitting down and watching MVs over and over, so it's not as important. Most important is the music for me.

Now, whether I have good taste or not is another conversation.

For me, it's not 100% about the music, but the music is the main reason. If I didn't like the music, I would be listening to something else. I listen to the artists I listen to because I can't easily find something similar elsewhere.

I only "stan" groups that are musically pleasant to me. I have watched entertainment videos of groups I don't stan and, although I enjoyed them, I couldn't bond with them because I didn't enjoy their music. I still think that the music is the main part and if I can't enjoy their music, I can't consider myself a stan. I can still feel happy for them as a person, but no as an idol.

But I do agree that the parasocial interactions is an important feature of K-pop and is something you can't find easily elsewhere. I have listened to J-pop and J-rock before K-pop and there's zero interaction outside of Japan. Western artist don't interact much either.

When I got into K-pop the parasocial interactions were one of the things I liked the most. Seeing them offstage makes me see them as people and not just as idols and makes me have a stronger bond with them. I feel happy when I see them happy, while for other artists I don't care that much, I just want to listen to their music.

Definitely not

A lot of kpop vocals and songs just aren’t up there but because of the expensive music videos and insane choreo and all the extra side things they do in variety shows etc they become likes all around not really for the music

It’s more just an industry of creating celebrities and gaining a big fandom vs actually creating music I personally think

To knetz it was never 100 percent about music. They’ll ignore your existence if you don’t fit their beauty standards.

I’ll Stan groups based off music and personality.

No...it never has been and has never claimed to be either lmao? Like

for me it's 70% music and 30% my crush on hongjoong. I mean, I got interested in ateez in the first place because of their music. Falling in love with Hongjoong came later.

No, it's never been purely about the music if that were so they wouldn't market and put so much into MV's, visuals and image brandd as they do.

Music usually takes up a smaller percentage of what really attracts people to kpop or specifically younger audiences to kpop.

For me it a 80% music, cause I spend my time listening to discographies rather than watching MV's I usually just watch them once and never again. The other 20% is a mix of variety and performance so in that respect for me it's visual in that sense. But I think it's because I've liked kpop music for longer time (12+ years) and it's never been an addiction of niche as it fits in with other genres of music like as well.

But it would be oblivious of me to not see the amount put into visuals and images of idol, so I can be interested by MV concepts.. But beauty visuals not really.

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And the sad thing about this is that many of these groups not only are the music TERRIBLE, but so are the performances.. the severe lack of talent and contrived and obvious assigned over the top personalities to appeal to the tween/teen stans! Ew

I like to know these many of these groups...do tell

No.

Kpop is about music, dance, and visuals

depends on the people who consume it.

Personally for me it's a lot about the music. I couldn't be into a group if I didn't like their music, that's my door to the fandom. I will put a spotify playlist for kpop artists while I shop and walk around, and find out about new groups that I could be interested in.

That said, once I'm in, obviously other things are also important : the concepts, the social media presence, the members' personalities etc...

If there wasn't all that, I would be acting with kpop artists the same way I'm acting with Taylor and Billie - that is to say that I'm a lot less emotionally invested in them as a person, even though I'm very invested in them as an artist.

That's just how it is.

for me both music and visuals are important

perfomances too

For Me,

Music 80%

Dance 20%

nope, but thats what makes it fun

No lol

No, not at all, music isn't even top3. Well, that's why I can't get myself into kpop much

For kpoppies, KPOP is:
10% Music
90% bragging achievements

it's a combo of music and visual to me. The visual attracts me first and makes me check out their stuffs. But then if none of their songs suit my taste, it will be very hard for me to get into the group and i will slowly forget them.

No course not hence why we have redundant positions and parasocial relationships.

lol of course not.