Just to clarify some points

why not try to be nicer then my friend???

there's a difference in how one describes music...in fact there are a lot of songs from groups with vast fandoms on AKP that I didn't like but I don't go around calling it crap or terrible or the like...hell every fandom on AKP has called my taste in music tasteless lol

it doesn't take that long to say

"I gave xyz song a listen and it wasn't for me" instead of just writing something less nice...

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no, I don't hate Aespa

I just think some of their stans are hella annoying and triggering, if you fight back you are suddenly a pathetic troll lmao what a joke

It's so funny how some users try to make me sounds like the bad guy because I clapped some of their booty cheeks

Or Because I think Next level is terrible song (yes I know it's doing amazing on the charts doesn't change my mind music is subjective) even if ITZY released it I would still think it's trash

Or because I made a fucking stupid joke about oli london

Maybe I would have been their biggest stan if they kept doing songs like mic drop, but instead they are making love yourself the world is butterfly and rainbow songs..

I NEVER HATE ON KPOP IDOLS because I don't know them personally, it's cruel to hate on people you don't know and didn't do anything wrong

unless they turn out to be a total trash

I always just comment on their music or performances and yes talent matter A LOT nobody is paying full concert price and pretending they are singing live 🙃

Also I am not nice, I never was, so stop mentioning how nice I was back then when you don't know me lol

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you were you just in denial

There is a way to get your point across without insulting, I mean even in my alleged troll threads I jokingly reply to others. I get it can make you mad and such, but there's a point in time where you have to realized that your fighting over nothing with a person online over 2 groups that will never acknowledge you. It seems quite...strange.

See, its okay to not like aespa or their recent songs but its never okay to tell anyone to get hit by a truck. I personally never considered you as a troll but today was really different.

We think you're annoying to so the feelings mutual

only difference is you're not triggering in the slightest lmaooo

Interesting. Ok.

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Or because I made a fucking stupid joke about oli london

Maybe I would have been their biggest stan if they kept doing songs like mic drop, but instead they are making love yourself the world is butterfly and rainbow songs..

Who's Oli London?

Is it or (s)he related to BTS (bc you say mic drop) or Aespa?

Hm, I don’t know. There are ways to get your point across without being rude. Some of the things you say are out of line, but I think if you were respectful with your opinions no one would come at you so strongly. You don’t have to be so aggressive. Not trying to police you or anything, but just giving my truthful opinion.

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It's okay, most people are annoyed by Aespa stans here, but the important thing to remember it's not Aespa's or even Mys fault that a bunch of pressed SM stans are token stanning them right now.

Hmm, do you consider yourself a JYP stan that is token stanning TWICE or ITZY, just because you like more than 1 JYP group?

If not, why would it be different for fans of an SM group, if they like more than 1 SM group?

Just curious, why would you see you and other fans of JYP (or YG, or BH) groups as real fans that can like more than 1 group, while fans of SM groups as token stanners when they like more than 1 SM group?

Weren't you fat shaming though on some thread and that's how you got banned here once?

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If an SM stan likes more than one group that's fine and they shouldn't worry about my comment, it doesn't apply to them.

But we all know the ones, we could call em by their names. I'm not the only one thinking or saying this lol.

And this ain't just about SM stans, people here including JYPE stans will know that. I called them out easy and even had mods delete come comment in the threads about Blind Package.

This isn't about liking more than one group from a company, that's not a company stan and you know that.

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I can think of 3 clear ones, that are hardcore stans of multiple SM groups (I think? Not 100% sure about SeulgiAbs) that are also baiters/instigators, true.

But to be fair, I can also think of a few of other fandoms that are either company stans or stans of multiple groups of 1 company that are samelike baiters/instigators.

The thing about the 'company stan' tagging is, that it's often done by blanket tagging anyone who even likes only 1 group of that company - and maybe even really dislikes that company - and still is being called 'company stan'. This happens most frequently towards fans of SM groups, this type of generalisation, and of course it's often done on purpose by some, to bait and aggravate.

That's why I asked. But if you see it as separate things, liking multiple groups and being a company stan, and that liking multiple groups doesn't mean token stanning them, then I understand what you're saying, we're on the same level.

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I just know a Midzy didn't talk about company stans token stanning lmao.. How many Midzy on here aren't Once first? Exactly... Some of them are already ready to move to Jypn or whatever the final name will be

Tbf @TheBotter does mostly says facts one of the few Midzy on here that's chilled

Losing sleep over some Mys i see

It's your fault that you are losing arguments to us and now you gave bunch of reasons that it's our fault

Stop this mental gymnastics

From what I've seen the past days you've had arguments not just because of Mys but Aespa too :rolleyes1: If you didn't like some Mys I personally don't think any user would care but you were rude about Aespa as well. It's not hard to separate artist and fans but you don't :rolleyes1:

What did happen?

Also, you can just block the people you don’t like. Sometimes it’s best to ignore rather than respond.

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What did happen?

This... What happened??

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What did happen?

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This... What happened??

They've been causing arguments in every and any recent Aespa related thread

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What did happen?

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This... What happened??

look at this thread, this is the recent event (page: 4)

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The only front runner of 4th Gen is AESPA.

Yeah. It's true. Sorry Boy group fans... I will not allow any talk about Stray Kids...NCT... TXT... Maybe I will allow stray kids but to get to my point I really only see Aespa as the front runners of the 4th gen. They have talent, good marketing, GOOD songs (by good songs I mean songs that the public LOVE. Maybe not black Mamba but next level's popularity made black Mamba trendy again...a good song doesn't have to be mixed well, I mean next level was mixed weirdly but the concept and the…

ellenote

Jul 27th 2021

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They've been causing arguments in every and any recent Aespa related thread

aespa threads always have some hot topic going on

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aespa threads always have some hot topic going on

All Aespa threads should have a trigger warning in brackets in the title because they really set some people off :rolleyes1:

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They've been causing arguments in every and any recent Aespa related thread

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look at this thread, this is the recent event

Thread

The only front runner of 4th Gen is AESPA.

Yeah. It's true. Sorry Boy group fans... I will not allow any talk about Stray Kids...NCT... TXT... Maybe I will allow stray kids but to get to my point I really only see Aespa as the front runners of the 4th gen. They have talent, good marketing, GOOD songs (by good songs I mean songs that the public LOVE. Maybe not black Mamba but next level's popularity made black Mamba trendy again...a good song doesn't have to be mixed well, I mean next level was mixed weirdly but the concept and the…

ellenote

Jul 27th 2021

Thanks. Aespa achievements sure should be put on *spoiler* bc almost every thread of them is a place full of blood

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look at this thread, this is the recent event

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The only front runner of 4th Gen is AESPA.

Yeah. It's true. Sorry Boy group fans... I will not allow any talk about Stray Kids...NCT... TXT... Maybe I will allow stray kids but to get to my point I really only see Aespa as the front runners of the 4th gen. They have talent, good marketing, GOOD songs (by good songs I mean songs that the public LOVE. Maybe not black Mamba but next level's popularity made black Mamba trendy again...a good song doesn't have to be mixed well, I mean next level was mixed weirdly but the concept and the…

ellenote

Jul 27th 2021

I didn't read that thread, because my sixth sense adviced me that would be a itzy x aespa fanwar and I always avoid that, because even through I stan itzy, I love aespa.

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I NEVER HATE ON KPOP IDOLS because I don't know them personally, it's cruel to hate on people you don't know and didn't do anything wrong

unless they turn out to be a total trash

I always just comment on their music or performances and yes talent matter A LOT nobody is paying full concert price and pretending they are singing live 🙃

Also I am not nice, I never was, so stop mentioning how nice I was back then when you don't know me lol

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[QUOTE="haj1ma, post: 8959100, member: 181992"]Their songs always sound the same. And they are generic and forgettable. The girls aren't even that pretty, they are so boring to look at or exceptionally talented at anything. I just don't fucking get it. Why are people so crazy about them.

I usually don't care when a group gets popular, but this exact group makes absolutely 0 sense to me why are people so crazy about them.

I am not a Ratmy or care about BTS tho i understand BTS (a bit) Jin is so pretty[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="haj1ma, post: 8959100, member: 181992"]they are all average it's just makeup and hair Jennie face look fat all the time and Lisa looks like the monster from IT. Jisoo is the only decent one but she is still not all that.

[/QUOTE]

Do people really say you are nice when you made thread about BP like this..? LOL ''I only comment about talents and music performance'' my ass..

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[QUOTE="haj1ma, post: 8959100, member: 181992"]Their songs always sound the same. And they are generic and forgettable. The girls aren't even that pretty, they are so boring to look at or exceptionally talented at anything. I just don't fucking get it. Why are people so crazy about them.

I usually don't care when a group gets popular, but this exact group makes absolutely 0 sense to me why are people so crazy about them.

I am not a Ratmy or care about BTS tho i understand BTS (a bit) Jin is so pretty[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="haj1ma, post: 8959100, member: 181992"]they are all average it's just makeup and hair Jennie face look fat all the time and Lisa looks like the monster from IT. Jisoo is the only decent one but she is still not all that.

[/QUOTE]

Do people really say you are nice when you made thread about BP like this..? LOL ''I only comment about talents and music performance'' my ass..

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Ew such a disgusting things to say... Ew ew ew.

Aight

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[QUOTE="haj1ma, post: 8959100, member: 181992"]Their songs always sound the same. And they are generic and forgettable. The girls aren't even that pretty, they are so boring to look at or exceptionally talented at anything. I just don't fucking get it. Why are people so crazy about them.

I usually don't care when a group gets popular, but this exact group makes absolutely 0 sense to me why are people so crazy about them.

I am not a Ratmy or care about BTS tho i understand BTS (a bit) Jin is so pretty[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="haj1ma, post: 8959100, member: 181992"]they are all average it's just makeup and hair Jennie face look fat all the time and Lisa looks like the monster from IT. Jisoo is the only decent one but she is still not all that.

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Do people really say you are nice when you made thread about BP like this..? LOL ''I only comment about talents and music performance'' my ass..

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I….don’t even have words..

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People starting to bring up receipts I see

Sorry I am usually not so petty but seeing quite a number of user in this forum acting like they are innocent angels getting bullied by ''SM stans, armies or blinks'' just because the old forum was deleted is really disgusting..

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Or because I made a fucking stupid joke about oli london

Maybe I would have been their biggest stan if they kept doing songs like mic drop, but instead they are making love yourself the world is butterfly and rainbow songs..

Is this suppose to be your draft about BTS and you just change this for Aespa????

Like???? Didn't you double check your post?

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[QUOTE="haj1ma, post: 8959100, member: 181992"]Their songs always sound the same. And they are generic and forgettable. The girls aren't even that pretty, they are so boring to look at or exceptionally talented at anything. I just don't fucking get it. Why are people so crazy about them.

I usually don't care when a group gets popular, but this exact group makes absolutely 0 sense to me why are people so crazy about them.

I am not a Ratmy or care about BTS tho i understand BTS (a bit) Jin is so pretty[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="haj1ma, post: 8959100, member: 181992"]they are all average it's just makeup and hair Jennie face look fat all the time and Lisa looks like the monster from IT. Jisoo is the only decent one but she is still not all that.

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Do people really say you are nice when you made thread about BP like this..? LOL ''I only comment about talents and music performance'' my ass..

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That’s disgusting :eek:

People here need to stop making sweeping statements imo. It’s not every Aespa fan doing this. I’m a fan and state I like the group but don’t think I go overboard with it unlike other fandoms. There’s an easy solution to the problem, Instead of bagging people how about just block them then people won’t have to read posts that triggers them. It works for me.

Did u really tell someone to get hit by a truck lmao?

A grip, maybe get one

There are plenty of better ways to say things and not be completely rude. You can fully disagree with other people and just have to word it properly. I get that being a fan sometimes is something that can get you a little swept away. I've taken it too far sometimes too (sorry to WatchingAll and foreveraespaaa for my craziness in the past). But even when I took it a bit too far, I never said the vile things you did.

So if you really want to be seen as better, then tone it way back. Because otherwise you come off as a truly awful person.

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Nah mate, don't be sorry.

WatchingAll and foreveraespaaa are trolls. And hard pressed ones at that.

Even if that is the case (and I'm not entirely sure it is) that still wouldn't excuse my behavior. Regardless of the person on the other side of the computer, I need to be better.

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Also I am not nice, I never was, so stop mentioning how nice I was back then when you don't know me lol

I can vouch that you were never nice. I got your back sis

Damn I am glad I took an AKP break so I don't get caught in this type of mess anymore

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There are plenty of better ways to say things and not be completely rude. You can fully disagree with other people and just have to word it properly. I get that being a fan sometimes is something that can get you a little swept away. I've taken it too far sometimes too (sorry to WatchingAll and foreveraespaaa for my craziness in the past). But even when I took it a bit too far, I never said the vile things you did.

So if you really want to be seen as better, then tone it way back. Because otherwise you come off as a truly awful person.

I don't remember arguing but it's cool I don't hold grudges