Which one is more important? Korean charting or international?

  • there are groups that chart well in korea but don't chart in international charts like omg,aespa etc. And there are groups who chart well for a kpop group outside korea but don't really chart in korea. Stray kids, ateez ,loona etc. There are groups who chart well in both like bts but they are exceptional. So what is more beneficial and important for kpop groups? Korean charting or international?

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  • there are groups that chart well in korea but don't chart in international charts like omg, aespa etc.

    ???

    Read this thread before spewing some bs :boredr:

  • Charting in Korea matter more

    because considering how you chart in korea you'll leave a legacy when you disband if you have a big hit or an international hit


    meanwhile International popularity is ephemeral, unless your BTS and become successfull internationally

    nobody will care how you charted 2 years ago on international Chart


    nobody will say "OMG do you remember when everybody in USA was jamming to this song who was ranked #50 on spotify 200" people will most likely tell you "hummm maybe you but never heard about this song "


    meanwhile if your songs did well in korea in 10 years people will most likely still remember the year when everybody was jamming to Next level in 2021 etc...


    plus charting well in Korea open you the door for CF, variety show, modeling etc....


    what's charting on international chart brings to you beside having your fandom bragging about ? Nothing nobody among the GP wants to see a nugu group that they don't know who charted #20 on spotify because their international fandom stream the song every hour

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    Korea obviously. Once KPOP stops being trendy internationaly you'll at least back some people to fall back on. If you're popular WW(assuming you're not referring to China, Japan) you'll have nothing to really lean on once KPOP starts dying off globally.


    But it's always better to be big both globally and domestically

  • Depends on where they're targeting and where the fans are spending money. Ultimately, a group has to make money on their releases, or they'll risk disbandment.


    If they're super popular internationally, then that can be enough to carry a group, even if they aren't popular in South Korea. At the same time, if they're trying to break into the western music market and they're spending that $$ and time and resources and it doesn't do well, then just being popular in S. Korea isn't necessarily enough to carry them through that.

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  • Korean have 50m people while globally there is almost 8b people so you potentially have 160X more customers globally, so I would say international have bigger potential.

  • why are people saying aespa is only doing well in korea?


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    not to mention they are still rising on billboard charts 6 weeks after release which is amazing


  • because you know Kpop fans and their behaviour towards aespa


    admitting that they are doing great in Korea, when they were all expecting the song to fall quickly in the chart was hard


    so admitting that NL is doing well in korea and internationnally , it's impossible for them

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  • loona, ateez and sometimes stray kidz gets constantly bashed for being 'nugus' despite their strong fanbase and achievements internationally and OMG probably makes more money than them through brand deals and cfs alone so i'll say charting and recognition in korea >>>

  • Both.

    For being a stable artist, you need a strong Backbone. And for a strong backbone, you need Both domestic & international markets.


    And for me, it is the best to climb on both markets steadily. Success tastes sweeter than sweet & tastes stronger when it is on Stairs & not on elevator. I know many groups that started with a boom on charts and then also badly fell on face with a boom.


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  • if a group charts well in any country i think that's an achievement, whether you can make money in Korea or elsewhere, as long as you're making money...

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  • Korea obviously, I don't know why people think having good internationally when you consider as 99% of groups don't even promote outside Asia.


    A Korean artist promoting in Korea means not only do they have music sales on ther side but that can branch out to other things like cfs, acting, TV etc most of which often brings in more money than just digital sales, in some cases artists get to keep a bigger share of non music income. Meanwhile having good digital sales abroad doesn't get them that much more income than Korean sales and they obviously don't promote to gain more jobs like in Korea.

  • Korea is more important. The thing is that most of these groups we think are doing well internationally aren’t making any big significant impact to be remembered except a few.


    I mean if they are looking forward to a more stable career after their idol days are over, they will have to fall back on their home and that will depend on their local popularity

  • But a lot of groups disbanded even though they charted well in korea exm 2ne1, and most 2nd gen ggs.. But internationally popular groups like suju,tvxq are still atound


    super junior and tvxq weren't popular just internationally they were also massive success in Korea

    so your point doesn't make any sense


    it's not like suju and tvxq were only successfull internationally like SKZ or ateez etc...

    Suju and tvxq always have been popular in korea and internationally that's what make them be able to keep continue to promote without having to worry about anything


    Suju members are still in every variety show in korea, it prove that their success rely much more on korea than internationally

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  • for example if girl group can sale more than 100k in first week-two weeks then they are "safe" and charts ain't needed at this point, they can be sure that no one will disband them - of course in "scandal free" situation.


    but if group is selling just 15-20k then for sure company would welcome at least group entering few charts for some time, to know that there are people in South Korea who like this gg music and they are ready to stream those songs.

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