[instiz] Real Ranking of Produce 48 and Produce X 101 (portion revealed)

So which members of izone got into the lineup fraudulently, yujin and nako?

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no, no it doesn't work this way

they revealed proper places of unfair eliminated trainees but didn't post a 'real' full ranking

in this case for example Yujin and Nako could be 7th and 8th for example

but we don't know that

But then why the title of post is

"Real Ranking of Produce 48 and Produce X 101 revealed by court"

Hold on, so does this mean NAKO was rigged in? Wow, I can't believe it. Korea's national bias is more severe than I expected, without rigging it would be just Sakura and Korean girls. Like I am not even sure that I oppose the rigging at this point.

Of course another thing is that it shouldn't have been Korean exclusive voting.

based on comments by knetz in this post chaewon was one of the rigged in member

I find it hard to believe. Nako was effectively #2 at one point and Ahn Yujin was shoo in

I can't believe Nako was lower than Honda Hitomi, whom I never really thought she belonged to there.

It was always the two Kims, Kang Hyewon and Choi Yena who were suspected

Quote from bartkun

no, no it doesn't work this way

they revealed proper places of unfair eliminated trainees but didn't post a 'real' full ranking

in this case for example Yujin and Nako could be 7th and 8th for example

but we don't know that

Oh okay, I also misunderstood that part. So then it isn't Nako

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There's no real compensation that can equate to what they lost out on. So fucked up

reason #34957280572340 why kpop survival shows are the most cringe, lowest form of music content still running

LEE KAEUN talks about her final Produce48 ranking on KakaoTalk Room:

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"It was something I wanted to forget, but I suddenly felt like I was being labeled as a victim by the world.

I was doing well, but everyone I saw felt pity for me, so I think it was a little difficult for me."

— "But my mom said that she was happy her daughter actually made it!"

Former 'Produce 48' contestant Lee Kaeun candidly shares her emotions following the ranking manipulation controversy

Former 'Produce 48' contestant Lee Kaeun broke the silence and candidly opened up about how she felt when it was revealed that the contestants' ranki…

www.allkpop.com

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So which members of izone got into the lineup fraudulently, yujin and nako?

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Hold on, so does this mean NAKO was rigged in? Wow, I can't believe it. Korea's national bias is more severe than I expected, without rigging it would be just Sakura and Korean girls. Like I am not even sure that I oppose the rigging at this point.

Of course another thing is that it shouldn't have been Korean exclusive voting.

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I find it hard to believe. Nako was effectively #2 at one point and Ahn Yujin was shoo in

I can't believe Nako was lower than Honda Hitomi, whom I never really thought she belonged to there.

It was always the two Kims, Kang Hyewon and Choi Yena who were suspected

If everyone was shifted up, then it would be

11. Kim Minju (real rank 13)

12. Lee Chaeyeon (real rank 14)

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There's no real compensation that can equate to what they lost out on. So fucked up

Lee Gaeun has completely dropped off from the radar

Han Choown is being carried around by other members of Lightsum, itself on its last legs. It recently made Yoon Sangah the leader, essentially telling Choown to get lost, but the latter will stick in Cube, getting some kind of job from there when Lightsum gives up its ghost probably in this year.

I don't believe for a second Nako and Yujin were rigged in, they had a lot of hype and votes during PD48. Everyone was shocked when Chaewon and Jo Yuri were announced, so I believe they were rigged in. Also I believe positions were changed, let's use the classic one as an example: Sakura ranking 1st but her position was switched to 2nd place.

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that ain't true tho

Juhyeon was leader and she was the one which 'lost' the role

which was given to Sangah

Juhyeon being leader didn't make much sense since the start because she is 5th oldest member in the group so with current line-up only Yujeong is younger than her, and just by two months...

But Juhyeon was there the longest and they could not make Choown the leader, since she would , under no circumstances, have anything to do with former IZOne members including the music bank host at that time, Jang Wonyoung.

Making Sangah the leader means giving cold feet for the Produce 48 trio, telling they are irrelevant.

Well what’s the use of revealing the true ranking of the trainees ? It’s like it’s going to give them any sort of fame right now the people that were rigged in are thriving and having very successful careers

When a company has bribed producers with "adult services" [proven and people went to prison], and then get busted for buying a company to smear competing groups in social media [proven and got investigated by ftc], doing sajaegi is nothing.

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Well what’s the use of revealing the true ranking of the trainees ? It’s like it’s going to give them any sort of fame right now the people that were rigged in are thriving and having very successful careers

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Y'all really thought Nako and Yujin wouldn't be in? Did y'all watch the show

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I don't believe for a second Nako and Yujin were rigged in, they had a lot of hype and votes during PD48. Everyone was shocked when Chaewon and Jo Yuri were announced, so I believe they were rigged in. Also I believe positions were changed, let's use the classic one as an example: Sakura ranking 1st but her position was switched to 2nd place.

Come on people, you have to think like the people that rigged the show.

Ok, so here is the problem, you have 2 girls that keep getting voted into the top 12, but you do not want them in your group, what do you do?

Option 1; you swap them with other 2 girls that you may want in the group that are outside the top 12, so this is why some people are thinking it was a swap

IN An Yujin OUT Lee Kaeun

IN Nako OUT Han Chowon

Option 2; you reduce the points for the 2 members you do not want and make them drop below top 12, that way all other members get shifted up by 2 spots.

What Izone should have been------------------------------The Izone that was

To me option 2 makes the most sense.

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What in the hell is the point of this?

It will do nothing for those who were skipped over and only garner speculative and unwarranted hatred to Yujin and Nako (who they will most likely take incorrectly as to have been definitely rigged in in their misunderstanding).

Person who leaked this is a dumb ass trying to stir trouble.

Everyone needs to move on. Reprising this "rigging" issue ad-infinum is a dead end.

Let it be kpop.

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There was a legal investigation and people went to prison for this, the truth is always good.

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What in the hell is the point of this?

It will do nothing for those who were skipped over and only garner speculative and unwarranted hatred to Yujin and Nako (who they will most likely take incorrectly as to have been definitely rigged in in their misunderstanding).

Person who leaked this is a dumb ass trying to stir trouble.

Everyone needs to move on. Reprising this "rigging" issue ad-infinum is a dead end.

Let it be kpop.

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Nah fraudsters need to get cancelled

whats the BlackpinkHouse take i wonder

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What in the hell is the point of this?

It will do nothing for those who were skipped over and only garner speculative and unwarranted hatred to Yujin and Nako (who they will most likely take incorrectly as to have been definitely rigged in in their misunderstanding).

Person who leaked this is a dumb ass trying to stir trouble.

Everyone needs to move on. Reprising this "rigging" issue ad-infinum is a dead end.

Let it be kpop.

EDIT:

On further read I see this was revealed as part of the court case. So therefore I can't oppose the release. I thought it was an individual who released it.

I still think it will cause unnecessary hatred for the idols speculated to have been rigged in.

It will be interpreted to ostracize them.

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For 2 people it will stay forever. For ever.

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Oh there is no way Chaeyeon is actually 12, or even worse did not make the lineup.

They definitely made her rank lower at 12th to milk and dramatise the friendship between her and Sakura

Correct she was not 12, according to the court released documents, she was probably 14th

They killed those people's careers

Did they get money compensation?

Yujin? damn didn't expect that really. I remember when the rigging scandal first got out people were saying Chaewon interestingly enough it seem like she wasn't? But anyways I do feel bad for the people who got rigged out, so unfair for them.

Chaeyeon got the hero and best dancer edit. Minju the quirky girl next door edit.

Yujin got a villain edit and social media and forums in Korea and globally really disliked her. There was also tremendous dislike towards idols from the bigger Korea companies, with people saying its rigged because they got way more and favorable airtime [we all know now it was because these companies bribed the producers with "adult services"]. Also Nako seemed to fade as other vocalists got more and more airtime as the series progressed.

They also changed the voting near or at the end to give more weighing to Korean votes.

So I think it is more likely Yujin/Nako was out compared to Minju/Chaeyeon.

Quote from https://www.koreaboo.com/news/prosecution-reveals-x1-izone-final-members-rigged-wanna-one-aswell/

The same series of events occurred in August 2018, prior to the final episode of Produce 48. Ahn Joon Young PD, Kim Yong Bum CP, and one more unnamed individual gathered together and selected the 12 members that would debut as IZ*ONE, and gave them their rankings without ever considering the viewers’ votes, excluding trainees in the (then) current top 12 that they did not want to debut

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Yujin? damn didn't expect that really. I remember when the rigging scandal first got out people were saying Chaewon interestingly enough it seem like she wasn't? But anyways I do feel bad for the people who got rigged out, so unfair for them.

Wrong intepretation

The post merely posted the actual ranks of those rigged out BUT NOT the ranks of others

It is not new info, we already knew all these from the court case before

what's the point of bringing this up again? everyone moved on different paths already

Quote from gerrard174

Wrong intepretation

The post merely posted the actual ranks of those rigged out BUT NOT the ranks of others

It is not new info, we already knew all these from the court case before

The documents does show the rankings of all others, the only question is if Nako and Yujin were below 12 and were moved to take the place of the 2 unwanted girls or if the rankings were shifted to move them down to 13 and 14.

So the 4 possible girls that made Izone because of the rigging are Nako and Yujin or Minju and Chaeyeon.

1. Jang Wonyoung

2. Sakura

3. Jo Yuri

4. Choi Yena

5. An Yujin (real ranking: Lee Kaeun)

6. Nako (real ranking: Han Chowon)

7. Kwon Eunbi

8. Kang Hyewon

9. Hitomi

10. Kim Chaewon

11. Kim Minju

12. Lee Chaeyeon

13. Han Chowon

14. Lee Kaeun

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whats the BlackpinkHouse take i wonder

When you're the literal Avengers of Kpop, you're bound to make enemies. Look at the miscreants and reprobates on this very thread trying to stir up hate against mah izone girls .

But Izkarma will work it's magic, and it will be their faves that are gonna find themselves in hot water with Knetz soon enough

Ultimately, the whole rigging is a non issue. Nobody cares except rival NJ, Aespa, Idle, Itzy, BP, Twice, and Stayc fans who want to shade Ive and LSRFM.

There is a reason why LSRFM and IVE are sitting on top of the idol world, and why Yena and Chaeyeon are still the only 4th gen soloists to chart in the top 30 on Melon, why Eunbi is booking gigs left and right, and why Yuri will become the most viewed Idol in Kpop history when Squid Games 2 airs.

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The documents does show the rankings of all others, the only question is if Nako and Yujin were below 12 and were moved to take the place of the 2 unwanted girls or if the rankings were shifted to move them down to 13 and 14.

So the 4 possible girls that made Izone because of the rigging are Nako and Yujin or Minju and Chaeyeon.

1. Jang Wonyoung

2. Sakura

3. Jo Yuri

4. Choi Yena

5. An Yujin (real ranking: Lee Kaeun)

6. Nako (real ranking: Han Chowon)

7. Kwon Eunbi

8. Kang Hyewon

9. Hitomi

10. Kim Chaewon

11. Kim Minju

12. Lee Chaeyeon

13. Han Chowon

14. Lee Kaeun

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That's NOT TRUE. The translation is off in the original post. Court did have the real ranking but never released it except for Kaeun and Chowon who was rigged out.

Everyone can have their speculation about which members are rigged in, including:

1) going by past trend - Chaewon and yUri who never made top12; OR

2) simple assumption that Nako and Yujin replaced Kaeun & Chowon rank, and others' ranks are real; OR

3) assumption that kaeun & chowon were removed and everyone else moved up, which made Chaeyeon and Minju in top12; OR

4) it could be the whole top 12 is rigged list.

No one knows except those involved + the court.

Quote from gerrard174

That's NOT TRUE. The translation is off in the original post. Court did have the real ranking but never released it except for Kaeun and Chowon who was rigged out.

Everyone can have their speculation about which members are rigged in, including:

1) going by past trend - Chaewon and yUri who never made top12; OR

2) simple assumption that Nako and Yujin replaced Kaeun & Chowon rank, and others' ranks are real; OR

3) assumption that kaeun & chowon were removed and everyone else moved up, which made Chaeyeon and Minju in top12; OR

4) it could be the whole top 12 is rigged list.

No one knows except those involved + the court.

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Like I posted. Minju got the "Yoona" edit and Chaeyeon the best dancer + sakura's bff edit, so no way they didn't make it. So its gotta be #2, because why put their names next to Nako and Yujin, when their names could have been next to someone else.

I know what they did was so wrong but the izone lineup was perfection. I don't know who was rigged in, it's all assumptions but they made izone perfect. Bringing it up won't change anything. Accusing won't give them a top tier career either.

Now these survival shows do rigging in a more fair way and add whoever still they want.

At the end of the day a group can't just be made with anyone just because audience prefer them. It's always will be a SCAM.