Posts by WhyKnock

Napoleon was never defeated in an open battle until 1809. He had several close calls, but ended up victorious in every single battle until May 21, 1809, at a place called Aspern-Essling, near Vienna.

Archduke Karl, a brother of the Austrian Emperor, was trained for the military since he had no chance of becoming the next Emperor. Karl studied Napoleon's tactics, and to make a long story short, he defeated Napoleon.

Worse, Jean Lannes, a marshal of Napoleon, was killed in the battle. Till then no marshals of Napoleon had died in battle, and the loss of Lannes showed that Napoleon was no longer invincible.

It significantly hurt his prestige, and although he later won the battle of Wagram which led Austria to submission again, other countries began to have second thoughts.

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SNSD's decisive defeat occurred on December 9, 2011, or January 6, 2012, depending who you ask.

SNSD was invincible in 2010 and 2011, and was more dominant in Korea than BTS ever was in there, because in 2010 and 2011 SNSD did not have to deal with IU, while in the years 2019-2021 BTS did have to deal with IU who denied BTS its Korean dominance, which led to them being dragged to the military and her having the most youtube views in Korea in 2022.

IU defeated SNSD two times on the dates above , ending SNSD's dominance, and more importantly, she broke the Soshi bond, the mythical bond which united all SNSD members.

IU breaking the Soshi bond was the beginning of the end of SM domination of KPop as well, which is another story .

Min Heejin, who did not appear in this post until now, has succeeded creating the same effect in Hybe and BTS.

BTS members have not said too much about MHJ, but given Seokjin's behavior of choosing to have a solo concert precisely at the same time other members are discharged, shows that the bond between the members are destroyed, or at least very seriously shaken.

Taehyung and Jungkook were sympathetic with New Jeans, and Taehyung with MHJ since she helped to produce his solo album, and although neither have said anything after Danielle put a blue hat (meaning MHJ) to answer JK's instagram post, all of the members would be thinking that Bang Sihyuk treated MHJ like a queen and if she did not rebel she was going to make an amount of money significantly larger than everything the members had earned to now.

Given IU and now Blackpink Members are running their own affairs, BTS members' confidence on Bang would have weakened significantly and some members would be thinking that as soon as their renewed contracts expire they should go out and do their own things when they still have shelf life remaining.

MHJ might lose the court case and lose a lot of money.

However, the bomb she threw at Hybe won't go away easily, and she succeeded damaging Hybe, as all of its acts are not as great as they used to be, and if BTS breaks away, she probably played a greater role than anyone else.

So she definitely won in that aspect.

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did any one expected them to come dancing out of the barracks 🙄🙄

They probably need rest and recharge their energy and meanwhile other active members can carry on their solo activities.

Not to mention, writing and producing a whole new album take hell lot of time, I don't think a bts comeback is happening until 2nd quarter of 2026, and up until then may be jungkook would go on a solo tour too.

BTS lost almost all of its grounds it held on 2022 and now BlackPink and Stray Kids and Seventeen are mocking it

They could rest for a couple of months and it is the job of the company to go through songs , production, etc so everything would be smoothened out for a faster comeback

But Hybe did nothing, meaning it spent all of its resources fighting MHJ, not preparing for a BTS comeback

MHJ hurt Bang's ego so his sycophants in the Hybe organization spent more time fighting MHJ than preparing for BTS' comeback

songs from Hybe organization have been generally weaker since the MHJ fiasco. Magnetic is the last Hybe song to top the Melon charts (Zico is generally not considered to be a Hybe act, running his own game), and after the MHJ fiasco aespa, Roseanne Park and GDragon dominated, not Hybe acts.

They should have at least drawn a map for a comeback, instead of doing nothing and let someone have his own concert which would delay everything

Nowdays the job of the producers is choosing from the hundreds of songs submitted by no name composers around the world , especially in Hybe organization. A song from LeSserafim, Unforgiven, was mostly written by a Shim Hyewon, US citizen. Shim Hyewon trained to become a composer but after she submitted the song 15 other people added their names for its credit. (Shim Hyewon is now known as Belle in Kiss of Life but that is another story)

That is how Hybe does things. The songs are there, and the producers should have made them kind of ready by the time the members are discharged. But they did nothing

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I think maybe all of them want to tour at least once solo and I think it'll be a good experience for them. I just worry about the fans bank accounts lol.

You forget that BTS needs time to plan their concepts and record their music. They also need time to relax and just chill with family because they were in the military before. Not every member would want to jump straight into work.

Jin is not selfish at all. Especially when he says he makes sure his releases don't clash with the other members.

Planning concept and such work are the work of Big Hit producers. They are responsible fore the big picture, and the members would coordinate with them so they could jump back into the ring asap.

Did all of them go vacationing in the 2 plus years?

All of them wanting to have at least one solo tour means the team cohesion has all but disappeared. In arge part because of MHJ.

BTS' stature around the world has declined significantly. It is already too late to restore itself to its former glory and delaying its comeback just means less fans remaining.

Seokjin's release and concert already clashes with the overall plan and has made it sure that there would be no comebacks until the 4th qtr at the earliest and no tours till the spring of 2026.

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He gets like 3% lines and screen time anyways. His involvement in a concert is not going to affect their comeback much. I am sure he can handle both easily. He's a veteran at this point.

Then why Hybe did not run a concert without him and make BTS continue to be dominant?

That argument means it was OK to cut him and continue to defy the mostly irrelevant Korean incels for at least one more year.

If BTS had a larger tour than anyone else in 2023, would Taylor Swift and Morgan Wallen become that uppity? I doubt it.

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I dont think BTS is making a comeback this year. Jungkook is rumored to do a tour after him. I think BTS might do a tour on 3rd or 4th quarter of 2026.

That will make half of the remaining fans to leave.

So much for the longer career argument.

Something has to be announced asap and showing that the members put their own personal interest first is not a good strategy, especially when even BlackPink is re-uniting in 2025.

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Losing any of the members is a big drop in brand value, being 7 is a big part of their brand

Stray Kids had 9 members but it got rid of Woojin and got bigger.

The momentum in 2022 can never be repeated.

OT6 in 2022 would have been about 10 times as powerful as OT7 in 4Q 2025.

I was flabbergasted when I saw the announcement of Seokjin's solo concert which will last at least until August.

And I have to be amazed by his selfishness.

If he had left the group in 2022, the remaining members could have kicked the enlistment till at least mid-2024, and the changed political environment would have probably led to at least the younger members getting the exemption.

And, when the younger members return, he gets to have a solo concert which will last until late August, which means no comeback until October at the earliest, and since few concerts open in wintertime, no concerts until 2026.

What is that?

I am simply flabbergasted.

All these people who wanted to drag BTS to the military, using the 'longer career' argument which I have disproved too many times to repeat hear, are silent when the leader of Seventeen got an exemption and also the fact that the Australians in Stray Kids (the leader, Christopher Bang, was born in Korea) will never enlist.

Stray Kids would be laughing very, very hard now. They already have the largest concert tour by a Kpop act, ever, and in 2026 they will just schedule one more tour date to outdo BTS' record. The ball is now in JYP's side!

The entire MHJ circus made sure that BTS would not continue as a whole as the members began to think about themselves and how MHJ and New Jeans were paid like queens while they were not treated that well and ADOR still occupies the top floor of the Hybe building, over all other acts incl BTS.

And such behavior of Seokjin will simply weaken the already seriously undermined cohesion of the act.

it increasingly seems next year's BTS concert will be its last dance as a whole, until they turn 50 or something and by then it would be a bit hard for them to dance.

It would have been much better if they ditched Korea, drag the services as long as humanly could or just decide to domicile out of Korea, and continue to dominate the world except Korea which could have IU, Lim Youngwoong and so forth, and let people like Taylor Swift and Morgan Wallen shriek in fear till around 2025 and go their way after that , than this, which seems to be the worst possible progression people could imagine back in 2022.

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When will the singer that does more acting than singing be named by TIME, WhyKnock ?

When she gets a major role in a show intended for the West

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I call the popularity of BTS and BP a blip, as a I don't think it'll ever be replicated, nor do I think K-pop will ever peak like that again. K-pop is on the decline, despite the profit and revenue it's still creating, as it's starting to fizzle. You only have to look at sales in SKorea over the past year to see that in some cases it has risen, while in others, it has started to flatline.

Indeed. No more new stuff. ____ was defeated by Bibi last year, but GDragon seems to be unstoppable. All the new acts cannot make a dent to him.

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BTS was a whole movement. That will never be replicated at least by kpop.

Not it will not. It was on to something.

I have said a few times that Korea, which chose _____ over BTS in 2021,, was not a good base for BTS which was for the world. Such conditions don't repeat.

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never say never

records are meant to be beaten

take sports for example whenever there is a great truly GOAT like figure people will say oh they will say their records will never be beaten etc etc

take ice hockey for example - to most ice hockey fans Wayne Gretzky is the GOAT of the sport and his name is known to a lot of people around the world even such as myself where I don't think Australia even has an ice hockey team???? That wasn't really the point though - the point was that even his all time career goals was recently overtaken by one Alex Ovechkin

who is to say there won't come a group that will not only rise to the levels of BTS/BP but overtaken them in the future?

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Because of demographic changes in Korea which registers fewer youths coming online and a sizeable portion of them have Southeast Asian mothers

So there would be fewer Koreans in purportedly Korean acts

Also the resurgence of country music has made sure there would be many more country singers competing against KPop acts

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Umm

Who in the world is "_____" and when did they debut?

The person who is on my sig

The reach of BTS and BlackPink around the world was amazing.

These stories do not need to be repeated again.

Unfortunately subsequent acts found it very hard to follow their example.

And there was _____, who was not impressed by the successes of BTS and BlackPink and always tried to undermine them whenever they could.

Most people around the world would have acknowledge their domination of the world but _____ was not impressed by that and continued to attack them until their heydays were over.

Now it is rare to have someone with such determination and hostility against KPop as well.

The irony of all is _____ also got to have a world tour despite of never charting in Billboard Hot 100 and never releasing an album in the West, because ____'s history of hostility against KPop became so well known that _____ became the anti-Kpop singer of the generatino.

So it will be hard to see future generations matching the reach of BTS, BlackPink and ____, which I think is unfortunate.

Which means no BTS album till at least Aug

Yes so I can warn the space aliens to not listen to Lee Jieun's songs.

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Should've stuck Shinee, f(x), RV under a label for MHJ at SM 😒

Sooman knew the nature of MHJ and never gave her managerial powers

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Sj were their top group from 2009 - whenever exo debuted. You know when tvxq got gutted

tvxq got gutted but became DBSK and got very popular in Japan, SNSD took control, Kim Youngmin tried its best to undermine SNSD and promote Super Junior only to buy time till EXO debuted, and when EXO was about to debut Lee Jieun delivered an important blow to SJ by the photo of Eunhyuk, the most popular SJ member at that time. SM did nothing against her, basically condemning SJ, something the members never really forgot.

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You do know one of the largest kpop groups of all time was made up of rejected idols right. It doesn't matter when you debut, how you debut or whether the company likes you as long as the music is good the audience and success will be there.

That group would be Super Junior btw

SM never made SJ its major act. It was TVXQ-EXO-NCT-RIIZE, and SJ, Shinee, SNSD, RV, etc were also rans.

Whenever the groups not favored by Lee Sooman prospered, he let Lee Jieun run over it.

aespa only saw its day under the sun after Lee Sooman was out.

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Do you mean fight like physical fight or seeing who's more important to hype

Who is more importan for Hybe, like Billboard Rankings, or spotify rankings.

More than anything, Illit led to MHJ's anger, and the rest was history.

What would have occurred if New Jeans instead engaged on a life or death fight against Illit, and the loser would pack their bags and leave showbiz?

I do not see a way for Illit to beat New Jeans.

Illit's members are, I have to say, weak. The cold truth is only Minju, and maybe Iroha to some degree, are comparable to members in other major acts. I will save words on the other three.

New Jeans would have crushed them with ridiculous ease.

Granted, there is the hybe payola, but this would be a do-or-die battle and with the head start NJ had earned over the world, Illit would have been in a very hard spot.

Some people compared Illit to Twice. I have always compared it to GFriend, with a nonexistent team chemistry, a bunch of rejects from other companies, 3 of them debuting when they were 20 meaning this was their last chance, unlike New Jeans which was selected for excellence.

Frankly speaking, it appears its last two comebacks were weaker, and it will just become another act which would be stuck between Korea and Japan.

If MHJ had asked to make NJ compete with Illit, the latter would have lost, and NJ would have continued its dominance over Hybe.