Posts by gerrard174

  • ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread - 8 || Summary on page 1

    Quote from Uni909

    Shouldn't NJ and MHJ just accept the proposal from Ador? She keeps producing music to them. I feel this fight is something MHJ and NJ cannot win. It's about trying to change the core problem of company nepotism in korean culture. And I say this as a Tokki to just accept the deal. It's better than no MHJ with them.... :borahae:

    Imo this would be better than NJ losing their music career and be kept in dungeon (assuming they couldnt break the contract)


    if MHJ able to keep its authority over creativity direction then why not? At least it resolves one part of the issue. They just need to nego for creativity independence.


    But for the member protection part, yea, if she is no longer the CEO then she can't "protect" them. But now all eyes will be on the new HYBE management and how they treat NJ. With NJ members being vocal now, they can at any point of time raise the concern to management or even publicly...


    At least win half the battle than a stalemate...

  • NewJeans have the best longevity of any girl group in K-Pop History and it isn't particularly close

    Oops! i clicked in thinking about longevity in career (which is a big question mark for them at current point)


    When it comes to longevity of song chartings i totally agree. They are definitely the top when it comes to chart longevity but it has gone down over time as observed with Super Shy & ETA (but rebound with MHJ vs HYBE 🥳). We shall also observe the charting for How Sweet & Supernatural. Bubblegum and right now so far are not that good though ... but How Sweet has some legs on the top10

  • aespa "THE AE" Teaser (Who tf are these people !!!!)

    Aespa are in their parallel universe now. They can explore as much concepts as they want. This may be one of those parallel universe like the Supernova one.

  • How has your opinion of HYBE changed since April?

    HYBE probably has one of the WORST PR team ever. This is when you know the company is overexpanding without having the proper human resources & experience in handling crisis.


    We thought YG handling Burning sun, JYP handling Tzuyu flag scandal and SM handling the LSM ousting was bad. HYBE vs MHJ is on totally different level.


    Before anyone attacks me, im not standing with MHJ nor Hybe but all these could have been handled more privately. HYBE started withe the mediaplay on removal of MHJ + audit stuff - why all these need to go public first without conclusion? MHJ went public with presscon, that's where all the dirty laundry are flashed out.


    Also, recently how HYBE has been refuting each and every single claim of MHJ side is also very alarming. They are going nowhere with the "he says she says". Also, the subsi Belif and Soumu's responses are also very uncoordinated. This is not how a big listed co works. They act like a bunch of kids arguing in school.

  • Today is National One-Hit Wonder Day

    Quote from LilacGirl

    External Content youtu.be
    Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.
    Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.


    Does this count? ik they had some good reception post boom boom so not sure

    Dont count cause Baam (>100mil streams) and Wrap Me In Plastic (60mil) did okay-ish

  • Who are your "Big Three" girl groups of the fourth generation?

    To answer the thread, imo taking into consideration overall (all past achievement), member+group public recognition etc


    1) NewJeans

    2) aespa

    3) IVE


    Unfortunately in the case of IVE, like it or not, there is high chance they will be remembered as Wonyoung's group. I love all IVE members (especially Rei and Liz) but outside the DIVE fandom, other members except Yujin are barely known. Sad facts but yea. Their music legacy is also dragged down by the fact that they don't have a particular signature sound as they progress. It used to be elegant+narcissitic (something similar to IZONE) but have since then moved away with I'VE MINE (Baddie) and IVE SWITCH (heya). I love the musical diversity but sometimes when a group loses its signature colors, they tend to be left behind. History has shown us multiple examples.


    Both NJ and aespa may have edge over IVE in that aspect. Since OP asked who will be remembered down the road, i think NJ with their Y2K and aespa with their AI+hyperpop sound will be remembered more.


    The above is excluding being remembered for all the bad reasons i.e. fifty2 and Lesserafim with all the scandals

  • Who are your "Big Three" girl groups of the fourth generation?

    I'm trying to be objective here cause all 3 groups are my bias to some extent. But the post is super inconsistent.


    All 3 of them had at least 1 SOTY. Next Level, Love Dive and Hype Boy are the only 3 GG songs crossed 1.3 bil streams on melon. Aespa has been in the conversation since Next Level, even before NJ debut LMAO


    When you placed a "wall" there, do you realise that currently out of the 3, aespa is having better global + domestic streams for latest comeback? Sales wise, IVE takes #1 and followed by Nj=aespa (both not far off)


    Where is the wall though? If the wall was drawn between Nj and the other two, i could kinda understand given past NJ global performance which triumph their peers (this advantage remain unknown for future given NJ/MHJ vs HYBE). If judging overall + recent performance, there isn't a "wall" between them

  • Why did TWICE stop releasing catchy songs?

    Quote from patrik-k

    When groups change to "mature concepts" their songs often get boring. Feels like few groups have gotten more fun after they change from their early days to their more "mature" stage. But I think Twice have at least done it okay, they have some good song the last couple of years even if they have some boring ones. Blackpinks later years was no fun at all. 2NE1 was also a bit "meh" at the end. Same with Kara. Well, the list goes on.

    Im surprised when u mentioned 2NE1 was a bit "meh'" at the end. Crush was their last album, aand that album was their best charting + most acclaimed one. Come Back Home, Gotta Be You and few B-sides songs are among their best songs. Cant see them being more "meh" than their previous releases.

  • Why is there suddenly so much beef between LE SSERAFIM and aespa fans here recently?

    Quote from YamaChwan

    Nonsense.


    NewJeans would've beaten either one of them, especially on shows that don't heavily weight physical album sales, which is basically just Music Bank.

    Seventeen has

    1) decent digitals

    2) strong voting

    3) strong physical sales


    Jennie+Zico song have on par digitals with NJ how sweet


    Let's not pretend seventeen was some kind of flop with digitals. Seventeen had strong digital especially with downloads. They were #1 on digital charts. I dont think NJ will get that #1 purely on stream, seeing how even Supernova were bump off #1 for few weeks due to downloads by BGs. Evident by the scores for their digitals on mucore based on domestic digital chart and mcountdown which based on global streams


    Seventeen also had super strong physical sales and voting - all GGs stand 0 chance. See the voting gaps in muscore & show champion. If jennie fans couldnt make it, i doubt Bunnies are stronger in votes


    External Content x.com
    Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.
    Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.

    External Content x.com
    Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.
    Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.

    External Content x.com
    Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.
    Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.

    External Content x.com
    Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.
    Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.


    Meanwhile SPOT was having PAK + decent international streams and YT views. How sweet debut week digital point was 29.7 mil while Jennie+Zico pulled 28.5mil. They are not far off but Spot has edge on voting + SNS from YT views.


    External Content x.com
    Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.
    Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.

    External Content x.com
    Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.
    Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.