Is 260 albums on Hanteo for first day sales not starting from the bottom?
CLC never made a profit, similarly Lightsum. Their new BG also didn't make a splash. If Cube was such a big company that guarantees all the funding and success, why don't they have any successful act since 2nd Gen other than Idle?
Does it matter that Cube is 'not a small company' when the market valuation gap between them and JYP is like 10X? Yeah, they used to have moderately successful groups in the past - companies fortunes can go up and down. DSP used to be part of the big three - they had Finkl, SS501, Kara, etc. If DSP debuted a group that became one of the top groups of their generation, are people going to use the same argument "DSP isn't a small company! They were right behind the big 3, they had blah blah blah legendary acts a decade ago" like????
Our definition of started from bottom might be different.
I dont think a group winning #1 20 days into debut as really started from "bottom". In most cases especially groups NOT from big 3, their level of anticipation and sales will be low from Day 1. If you count low sales kn Day 1 as "rise from bottom", literally all group not from big 3 are such case.
To me, rise from bottom is someone like BTS. They rise from bottom because their first few releases were not hits / not charting well.
GIDLE has gotten fair level of attention and reception for Latata and that's how they able to win 20 days into their debut. I wouldnt really count them as rise from bottom since the days they spent at "bottom" was so short. Just my take on this matter