Posts by gerrard174

Quote from patrik-k

But it kind of goes both way, even if I agree that it's the group that make them individually popular, it's also their individually popularity and status that gives the group it's "staying power". Had the members not have the status they had Blackpink would not have been able to keep it's status for so long with so few songs and activity during the last couple of years. If you compare with Twice they have a much harder time too stay relevant at the top as soon as their song releases got fewer.

Agree that it is both way

BP the group and the 4 of them are not separable. No matter how the solo akgae try to push thE narrative that their fave is better as soloist. The moment they quit BP group, they will immediately lose a big chunk of support/attention from casual listeners.

The group also benefited from exposures brought by 4 of them as soloist. That's what kept them 'relevant' without BP group being forgotten

Quote from Roses-are-Rosie

I didn't expect that much filtering

Kinda normal, PV and SD had similar too

Pink Venom 10.79M

Shut Down 7.52M

Ice Cream 7.38M

How You Like That 6.36M

Lovesick Girls 6.17M

TKO!! I wonder will they sing holy moly? I love that song

Quote from bartkun

honestly speaking usually no matter which group we're talking about the longer group is active the less Koreans are interested in them

If aespa is able to do it, i think LSRF has a shot too.

They need right timing, right song and right image (controversy clean)

Quote from Popper-of-Ks

That's what happens when you've gone head-to-head with the group that has the single most toxic fandom in the history of fandoms. They don't know how to act normal. And then they wonder why people from all different fandoms retaliate.

I give you Exhibit A.

And when the "battle" started, which fandom was the one made fun of the other because of views.

Let's guess.

Quote from doesitneedsaying

oh, kpop fans. cannot keep up with all the boycotting

do we even have lisa's sales? how do they know they didn't support her? i doubt lisa solos supported other members tho, they shouldn't complain.

Quote from z1

This one is easy because Twice hasnt been a competition to Blackpink either in Korea or in Worldwide Charts since 2019.

They are just doing just fine though and honestly have nothing else to prove

Someone told us that BP should be doing multiple times than Twice and not just 2mil more than Twice on YT...

And yea here we come at the end of the day

Quote from doesitneedsaying

oh, kpop fans. cannot keep up with all the boycotting

do we even have lisa's sales? how do they know they didn't support her? i doubt lisa solos supported other members tho, they shouldn't complain.

1) lilies claimed that YG hide Lalisa sales, which should have crossed 1 mil but didnt report

2) lilies claimed that other fanbases didnt support Alter Ego because of the lower streams vs Ruby (but they ignored Rosie and Amortage which have lower streams exc. APT).

I think is perspective issue. For sure there are some OT1 fan but most blinks are rational and support them all

yes they will, i have faith

They just need to slowly regain their reputation. Hot did okay-ish. Next one would be better

guys, let's look at Japan...

I think Twice tanking there is more surprising than BP charting at #18

Quote from WhyKnock

Is it being stopped by Huntrix?

Sis.. huntrix wont have that power...

Is Justin Bieber

Quote from doesitneedsaying

let me be conspiracy theorist but i find hard to believe that aespa had almost 2.5 times bigger numbers than blackpink. what were the numbers in previous comebacks?

anyways, congrats!

Let's be real. Some of the Thai fans were pissed that Lisa didnt get supports from other solo fanbase and hence boycotted

Quote from Taemin-Identity

He shades Aespa more

So Random kpop Stan isn’t an option i think

he shades BP and aespa

Support twice.

I think could be inclining to Minion

Quote from autumnleaf_soshi

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can you tell me why Circle Chart don't have a link for Youtube Music when they provided all the other music platform links on their website? is this suppose to indicate Circle Chart don't count Youtube Music on their website scoring data?

I'm assuming Circle Chart is the biggest indicator of domestic chart performance in Korea?

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Circle yet to incorporate YT music

iirc there were concern because the way YT counts streams are different + lack transparency.. correct me if i recall wrongly

Quote from Taemin-Identity

if you watch the mv it also does count as 1 stream as well. Yt music also adds videos that used that audio and counts towards streams. So it is very very skewed I might say.

I agree for these points too.

YT Music chart is not that transparent as compared to Melon and spotify. Hence even on western side, you will see people place heavier weightage on Spotify, followed by AM and then only YT Music

hmm

This wasnt expected

Quote from Teudungi21

Its amazing people still care about Melon when it isn't even the biggest chart in Korea anymore. More koreans are using Youtube music than melon so it serves as a better indicator of domestic success. on that chart blackpink is doing amazing charting at 1.

Melon rankings are UL-based.

It has its merits as compared to stream-based ranking charts like YT & Spotify

Melon still has its value because its ranking is UL-based (similar to filtered streams for Spotify) and it still publish hourly and 24H cumulative ULs

Those are some reliable metrics that hard to inflate as compared to streams.

Quote from Slayurfaves

I would say girl group in general this year asida aespa so far. Blackpink still does well in this generation with other 4th/5th gen girl groups regardless of being 3 rd generation. That's very impressive I don't think any girl group can pull this off

Agree except to be fair, LSRF charted top 10 too with HOT