which one is more important for a song to be considered as a HIT ?
"BOTH" isnt accepted as an answer
Song that have a really big peak like POWER UP/REFUND SISTER or song that have a really great longetivity like DOLPHIN/LOVESICK GIRL ?
lovesick girl has huge peak too.
Unless you only think #1 is considered good peak. There are many huge songs blocked from #1 and peaked at #2. That's still a peak
It is so fast for them to pass 100k marks which some GGs used to take years to reach
you clearly dont listen to GIDLE enough to say this.
And hip hop sounds refreshing... i dont know how to react to this
Plus you are contradiciting yourself by saying Twice is "Having their own unique sound" and then being "innovative"
Lots of factors I guess, but as most I thought about were already pointed out. I'll elaborate further on one argument I didn't see as often;
Lack of individual activities.
I think what Twice lacks despite them achieving so much success is the girls having a more individual presence on the mídia. If the GP knew them better as individuals aside from just a group, probably they'd be more attached.
I know that with individual activities there was a slight chance of happening a "X and friends" like happened with Miss A. And that's something JYP probably feared, but since they experienced it before then probably they'd know how to be cautious.
Plus it's not like Twice has only one member who's marketable enough. All of them are very pretty, JYP could've catered to their individual inclinations (variety, mcing, CF etc.) more
And the best part of all: after the group disbandment, or a member's departure or simply slowing down on group comebacks, all of them would have a better footing on the industry
That's exaclty what JYP wants to achieve with Twice.
To be known as a group and not "X and friends"
However, the effect is that the members on their own have less presence.
To me, it is JYP's sketchy scheme to get the all the members to resign contract when due. If one or more of them get popular individually, it is usually harder to continue as group
I don't think so, they will never be able to be a top group until they start to innovative like TWICE.
Innovative and twice dont belong in same line.
Only a delulu thinks twice is more innovative than GIDLE
Whoa. Old thread resurrection
Considering that Red Velvet have been doing well even during a 1.5 year hiatus, I'd say they have a solid #3 position as girl group.
We'll see how things go when they get their comeback.
Who is #2?
How about ITZY?
it's my least favourite
Latata and Hann remained their best songs
Closely followed by Lion
i think alcohol free has decent chance to go top10, but that would mean it might push ASAP out of top10.
Battle of 3rd gen GG vs 4th gen GG
I think the fact that AF is more suitable for twice in term of vocal, really helps. At least they dont struggle in live stages and it's easier on the ears. A MR removed video of it kinda went viral in korea
Aespa do have similar vibe as BP but i think they are going for more experimental route which sometimes could pay off,sometimes could not.
But yea, i think aespa has the best chance, then followed by ITZY
#1 because the ULs chart are under maintenance?
Definitely not something to flex at
The GP is fickle af.
I don't think they aren't supporting Twice anymore, they just probably don't vibe with this specific song. ICSM did pretty well, right ?
ICSM kinda didnt do well in their standard.
For some reason I believe Ningning won't just leave without big reason (getting kicked out for example). She was scouted and seems to be treated well.
Not like the other chinese member like Victoria, Luhan were treated badly.
They were literally being promoted very well in korea by SM and was pushed hard.
It is about fame and money. If you continue in korea, you wont get full support from Chinese.
Its exactly because ddd is a summer song as to why its dropping rn since the weather forecast for this week and next week shows a lot of cloudy and rainy day. On the other hand heize will probably take over bts soon, the gap is getting smaller its less than 30k rn
If heize overtake BTS, imagine the meltdown
I cant believe this would happen
the factors others have stated seem to be the case + also over-saturation of the market, i think in some ways TWICE have kinda spent their image as a group, after you release dozens of singles with little wait in between, they start to lose their excitement, JYP tried to counteract this by constantly changing the concepts, but that only backfired more
I actually think this is the best guess. This is the result of endless milking of fanbase. Plus, male fans are fickle anyway, as they grow older, they tend to abandon the kpop fandom and become casual fans
Like someone said above, sound change doesnt make you drastically drop in performance (thought it really happened before with gfriend). It is combination of few factors - Sound change, too much milking to a point that some fans are turned off, bad live singing scandal, constant members absent from comeback, amongst others