both blackpink and babymonster should be grateful to have 2NE1 as their senior

Lol. 2NE1 help everybody except themselves. So much impact

Everybody should be grateful we even got 2ne1 for so many years before they left YG, YG ent is still trying to replicate their sound and uniqueness, but they can't. They were really a special group. Babymonster on the other hand is benefitting from being BP's younger sister group, but clearly it isn't working.

Again with 2ne1... feels like 2018 all over again lol

what a weird take ! as if 2ne1 didn't get the benefits of debuting under YG

shouldn't 2ne1 be grateful to big bang? do you know they were called the female big bang

They getting the hype for debut because of BP.

2ne1 would be long ass forgotten if Blackpink didn’t exist for people to keep remembering them

Since the only time y’all seem to remember those flops is when it’s time to shit on bp

I ain’t thanking no hags who’d rather shade their juniors then the ceo that faked them over in the first place

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2ne1 would be long ass forgotten if Blackpink didn’t exist for people to keep remembering them

This is a terrible take

2NE1 was legends of the second generation, and the story of K-Pop cannot be told without them.

I'm not some bitter Blackjack who attributes all of BP's success to 2NE1's career, but claiming 2NE1 owe any part of their legacy to BP is a ridiculous take

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This is a terrible take

2NE1 was legends of the second generation, and the story of K-Pop cannot be told without them.

I'm not some bitter Blackjack who attributes all of BP's success to 2NE1's career, but claiming 2NE1 owe any part of their legacy to BP is a ridiculous take

Their material aged terribly

You got knetz simping over kara and wonder girls old material more then they ever mention 2ne1

Them girlies forgotten as hell, and bp is the only way their fans know how to bring some light onto their name now

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Their material aged terribly

You got knetz simping over kara and wonder girls old material more then they ever mention 2ne1

Them girlies forgotten as hell, and bp is the only way their fans know how to bring some light onto their name now

Truly forgotten.

Please. Just because you're upset at any potential slight towards BlackPink doesn't mean you have to react with these over the top takes.

Both 2NE1 and BLACKPINK's legacies can stand on their own merits, but it's incredibly disrespectful to talk so much shit about the first girl group to debut under the YG label.

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Truly forgotten.

Please. Just because you're upset at any potential slight towards BlackPink doesn't mean you have to react with these over the top takes.

Both 2NE1 and BLACKPINK's legacies can stand on their own merits, but it's incredibly disrespectful to talk so much shit about the first girl group to debut under the YG label.

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This is exact proof lol

Nobody talking about this after a few days… it’s giving forgotten to me

The most noise coming out of this performance is when TOP shaded bp while promoting his fellow flop friends

If 2ne1 legacy can stand on its own why can’t their fans seem to bring it up without bp? Oh right because they fcked themselves over with a druggie and a girl with mommy issues that led to their downfall

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Not to be rude but 2ne1 isn't the first YG Girl group Swi.T is

A correction isn't rude. I'm literally sitting here wondering "who?"

Is this the group YG plucked his wife from?

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Not to be rude but 2ne1 isn't the first YG Girl group Swi.T is

yes even by watching t swit's mv I can see some influence

and don't forget big mama

still 2ne1's hype predebut was because they were seen as the female version of big bang that how they were marketed at first

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yes even by watching t swit's mv I can see some influence

and don't forget big mama

still 2ne1's hype predebut was because they were seen as the female version of big bang that how they were marketed at first

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Literally you’d swear with the way their hag fans talked they built themselves from the ground but their hype was literally bc bb was in their peak in sk back then

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Literally you’d swear with the way their hag fans talked they built themselves from the ground but their hype was literally bc criminal group was in their peak in sk back then

Most fans of any YG group know that Big Bang is the one group that put the company on the map and paved the way for all the other acts to follow.

Also, stop embarrassing yourself with the childish name calling. I'm beginning to think you're literally incapable of not talking in terminally online speak.

2ne1 and bp should be thankful to teddy*

we stand upon the shoulder of giants

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Yep it is YG found his wife in this group then dropped the group as soon as he could

ikr and this could possibly make the whole “baemon debuted with an average age of about 16” thing worse since whygee was involved with the group’s debut and a lot of the members haven’t even turned 18* (let alone 19) yet potentially leading to one of them being the next Lee Eunju

*(NB: I’m using international age for this bcuz that’s been SK’s legal standard since this year started and you can’t use the traditional Korean age system on South Korean official docs anymore)

I think it was 2NE1, PSY, Bigbang and basically the whole YG 2nd gen era reputation that helped YG's 3rd gen groups like BP, Winner and iKON with their debuts: for a couple of years, YG felt almost untouchable when it came to digital charting, from their groups to their solo artists.

However, with the fading glory of YGE and over-reliance on just 1 group, BP, I'm not so sure that's still the case for YG's 4th gen groups.

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They are the same people who will say that when BTS enlist, BTS owe their legacy to New Jeans or that Stray Kids will owe their legacy to JYPE'S 6th Gen group or some shit like that

they'll be like "Nmixx is the reason y'all still bring up Stray Kids"

But like, fr, even though I really don't get the hype behind 2ne1, it's kinda mean saying such things? They had their prime time, and since sm people still talk abt them they really must've been popular

I wasn’t here to during 2NE1 but the disrespect.

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2NE1 really was that group though.

They were the No.2 group of their gen (coz SNSD was No.1), and never fail to ALWAYS TAKE THE STAGE when they perform.

Like their MAMA surprise appearance was one of the most crazy iconic moments of Kpop

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I wish they could comeback

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I just don't like the kind of Music they released. And I do not like their style either. But I respect them.

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I just don't like the kind of Music they released. And I do not like their style either. But I respect them.

They had a typical style of music that I'd like to call US-inspired 'uber swag' that you either like or leave it.

But Teddy in his peak days also gave 2NE1 other sorts of songs, with a different sound and vibe to it, like for example these that you might enjoy

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Their material aged terribly

You got knetz simping over kara and wonder girls old material more then they ever mention 2ne1

Them girlies forgotten as hell, and bp is the only way their fans know how to bring some light onto their name now

Lmaoo 2NE1's songs has more streams on Melon & Spotify than Wonder girls and Kara combined so their music looks like it's been holding up a lot more then them. Young idols are the ones simping over 2NE1 and CL in this generation while practically nobody cares for WG or Kara...

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Lmaoo 2NE1's songs get more streamed on Melon + Spotify than Wonder girls and Kara combined so their music holds up more then them apparently. Young idols are the ones simping over 2NE1 and CL in this generation while practically nobody cares for WG or Kara...

You're responding to someone who was 4 or 5 when 2NE1 debuted. Don't bother

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Lmaoo 2NE1's songs has more streams on Melon & Spotify than Wonder girls and Kara combined so their music looks like it's been holding up a lot more then them. Young idols are the ones simping over 2NE1 and CL in this generation while practically nobody cares for WG or Kara...

Nobody’s simping over Cl trust me LOL

Koreans never bring up 2ne1 they e been forgotten atp… sohee alone gets more mentions then CL and all of 2ne1. The only time they get discussion is when bp is the topic

Both BP and Baemon are an upgraded 2NE1.

In visuals and talents.

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Nobody’s simping over Cl trust me LOL

Koreans never bring up 2ne1 they e been forgotten atp… sohee alone gets more mentions then CL and all of 2ne1. The only time they get discussion is when bp is the topic

Honey, CL alone has been mentioned more as an inspiration and role model more than all of Wonder Girls and Kara combined (as 2NE1's impact washes both of them). You're basing your godawful take off of 3 random knetz but streams (and people who are actually in the industry) prove otherwise.

No disrespect to 2NE1, but i doubt babymonster has much links to them tbh.

Blackpink definitely did received attention with 2NE1 as their senior.

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No disrespect to 2NE1, but i doubt babymonster has much links to them tbh.

Blackpink definitely did received attention with 2NE1 as their senior.

You miss the point. Babymonster get attention because of BP and BP got their hype because of 2NE1 and 2NE1 got hype because of Big Bang, even the boost BP got from coming from the same company as 2NE1 was bigger that the boost 2NE1 goot. So yes, it's a link between them.

But it's the same for other groups, NewJeans have much of their status just because they come from same company as BTS. Aespa because the are a SME groups etc. The true heros are groups from smaller companies.

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You miss the point. Babymonster get attention because of BP and BP got their hype because of 2NE1 and 2NE1 got hype because of Big Bang, even the boost BP got from coming from the same company as 2NE1 was bigger that the boost 2NE1 goot. So yes, it's a link between them.

But it's the same for other groups, NewJeans have much of their status just because they come from same company as BTS. Aespa because the are a SME groups etc. The true heros are groups from smaller companies.

Internationally i agree.

But in korea, this generation of ggs dont benefit from the hype of just being in a big 3, with the except of hybe.

Aespa, nmixx, babymonster debut all charted so bad initially with literally nobody checking them out.

There is no true heroes imo because so much of kpop is in the trainee years. The toughest places to be at is at the biggest companies. For them to even debut at the biggest companies showed the additional work they have to had put in just to reach that stage