Idol Group Hits vs. Regular Hits


    Hi, I was inspired by salem9 to make this post. She mentioned that "idol group hits" are much easier to get than regular hits in South Korea, so I took it upon myself to see just how big the difference in size actually is. I'm only using digital points since they're the most recent metric we have at our disposal.
    I knew her assumption was going to be correct, but the actual gap of ~483 million points is…..wow. To get into the top 100 of the full chart, you need 642,974,208 digital points. To get into the top 100 of the idol group chart, you need 159,598,722 digital points!
    K-pop fans really do lower the mark of "hit" for idol group songs, because the difference between the two chart is stark, to say the least. Out of the top 100 idol group songs, as of March 4, 2021, only 23 are in the top 100 of the overall chart. 23% is less than 1/4 of these songs ("Dolphin" entering next week will make it 24%, but the "> 1/4" point still holds true).
    NOTE: This is not to drag any group or song, these are numerical values. If you are pressed by numbers, log off and save everyone valuable time. Thank you in advance.

    Is he.....you know?

    투모로우바이투게더 ᛫ 방탄
    레드벨벳 ᛫ 엑소 ᛫ 샤이니 ᛫ 에이티즈

    Edited 2 times, last by MassiveKpopFan ().

    Quote from kingkook

    I'm actually surprised that some English songs are charting higher than idol songs in Korea. Makes sense now as to why Dynamite was received well among the Korean GP despite being an English song.

    Interestingly, bad guy by Billie Eilish is in the top 20 songs w/ most digital points, at #19.

    Is he.....you know?

    투모로우바이투게더 ᛫ 방탄
    레드벨벳 ᛫ 엑소 ᛫ 샤이니 ᛫ 에이티즈

    Quote from omnimorphism

    This is to be expected, since Koreans don't listen solely to idol groups.

    I said as much in the OP.


    I made this thread to show just how large the digital gap is between the popular soloists, indie bands, duos, etc. compare "popular" idol groups.

    Is he.....you know?

    투모로우바이투게더 ᛫ 방탄
    레드벨벳 ᛫ 엑소 ᛫ 샤이니 ᛫ 에이티즈

  • AllKill VIP

    Wow - this is great and I can tell a lot of work. Since I was just bitching about it generally in another thread, I really appreciate that you've also included your methodology and context here (i.e. using digital points as the most recent metric). :thumbup:

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    I quickly did a list for the IDOL GROUP songs that made it into the list with all the entries from Non-idol groups (so the first list)


    BTS - 6 songs

    - BWL

    - SD

    - IDOL

    - Fake Love

    - DNA

    - Dynamite


    TWICE - 4 songs

    - DTNA

    - Yes or Yes

    - WIL

    - FANCY


    BP - 3 songs

    - DDDD

    - FY

    - HYLT


    Mamamoo - 2 songs

    - HIP

    - Starry Night


    BTOB - 2 songs

    - Only One for Me

    - Missing You


    RV, OMG, Momoland, iKON, ITZY - 1 song

    - Psycho

    - Nonstop

    - Bboom BBoom

    - Love Scenario

    - Dalla Dalla

    # of songs per idol group on the IDOL GROUP list (2nd list)


    PLEASE TELL ME IF I MISS ANYTHING!!!!


    BTS - 26 SONGS

    1. BWL
    2. SD
    3. IDOL
    4. Fake Love
    5. DNA
    6. Dynamite
    7. ON
    8. Mikrokosmos
    9. The Truth Untold
    10. Black Swan
    11. I’m Fine
    12. MIR
    13. EUPHORIA
    14. Zero O Clock
    15. Savage Love BTS Remix
    16. ANPANMAN
    17. Dionysus
    18. Friends
    19. Answer: Love Myself
    20. Filter
    21. Life Goes On
    22. Moon
    23. My Time
    24. We are Bulletproof: The Eternal
    25. HOME
    26. Inner Child





    TWICE - 9 SONGS

    1. DTNA
    2. YES OR YES
    3. WIL
    4. FANCY
    5. HEARTSHAKER
    6. LIKEY
    7. FEEL SPECIAL
    8. MORE & MORE
    9. I CAN’T STOP ME





    BLACKPINK- 7 SONGS

    1. DDDD
    2. FY
    3. HYLT
    4. KTL
    5. AIIYL
    6. LSGs
    7. Ice Cream


    Red Velvet - 7 SONGS

    1. PSYCHO
    2. BAD BOY
    3. RED FLAVOR
    4. POWER UP
    5. PEEK - A - BOO
    6. ZIMZALABIM
    7. UMPAH UMPAH




    MAMAMOO - 6 SONGS

    1. STARRY NIGHT
    2. HIP
    3. EGOTISTIC
    4. GOGOBEBE
    5. DINGGA
    6. WIND FLOWER




    (G)I-DLE - 5 SONGS

    1. LATATA
    2. HANN (ALONE)
    3. DUMDI DUMDI
    4. LION
    5. SENORITA




    WANNA ONE - 4 SONGS

    1. ENERGETIC
    2. BEAUTIFUL
    3. I.P.U.
    4. BOOMERANG


    ITZY - 4 SONGS

    1. DALLA DALLA
    2. WANNABE
    3. ICY
    4. NOT SHY


    IZ*ONE - 4 SONGS

    1. FIESTA
    2. LA VIE EN ROSE
    3. VIOLETTA
    4. SECRET STORY OF THE SWAN


    EXO - 4 SONGS

    1. TEMPO
    2. LOVE SHOT
    3. UNIVERSE
    4. OBSESSION





    OH MY GIRL - 3 SONGS

    1. NONSTOP
    2. DOLPHIN
    3. THE FIFTH SEASON


    SSAK3 - 3SONGS

    1. BEACH AGAIN
    2. 그 여름을 틀어줘 (Play That Summer)
    3. 여름 안에서 (Covered By 싹쓰리) (Feat. 황광희)


    WINNER - 3 SONGS

    1. MILLIONS
    2. REALLY REALLY
    3. AH YEAH


    IKON - 3 SONGS

    1. LOVE SCENARIO
    2. GOODBYE ROAD
    3. KILLING ME





    BTOB - 2 SONGS

    1. ONLY ONE FOR ME
    2. MISSING YOU


    SEVENTEEN - 2 SONGS

    1. OH MY
    2. HOME


    APINK - 2 SONGS

    1. I’M SO SICK
    2. DUMHDURUM





    1 SONG


    MOMOLAND

    1. BBOOM BBOOM


    BIGBANG

    1. FLOWER ROAD


    GFRIEND

    1. TIME FOR THE MOON NIGHT


    AOA

    1. BINGLE BANGLE


    REFUND SISTERS

    1. DON’T TOUCH ME



    MassiveKpopFan
    this actually took me longer than i thought it would. I just hope i got everything correct lol.

    Quote from Tic_tac_toe

    Is it possible to add the group name next to song too omg I’m a flop I don’t know these song names eye- I just wanted to count how many entries per group.


    Quote from Lilbp

    Op how about older hits such as pwf,cu,tt,bst,aiiyl etc

    Those are before gaon points are invented.

    Those were running with numbers of downloads and streams


    Edit: AIIYL 2nd half run is based on gaon points. So it is impressive that it hit 460m+ with 2nd jalf run only. (Same with red flavor)

    Quote from gerrard174

    Those are before gaon points are invented.

    Those were running with numbers of downloads and streams


    Edit: AIIYL 2nd half run is based on gaon points. So it is impressive that it hit 500m+ with 2nd jalf run only. (Same with red flavor)

    Is it possible for it to surpass 600 by this year

    Puts a lot of things in perspective. Thanks Massive and worldlove27!

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