The obsession over “rookie Groups” is quite odd… older Groups became more disposable!

Literally people don't even care about the music at all. They'll brainwash themselves into liking a song. So long as the group is successful/breaks records that's all people care about.

but kpop set this up for themselves

the companies themselves made this system

pump out tons of groups at really fast rates and try to cash in on trends

they made the industry like a fast food churning machine and there's no going back now

Some people never stanned or cared about the veteran groups but suddenly they stan their most recent groups

No because I remember very well when people were so loud about NMIXX and said Itzy will fad they were apparently the f(x) of JYPE and the others ones were saying they were trusting the company because JYP never miss with their GG (at least NMIXX are super talented) but look at them now. The song was just so bad.

Many kpop fans themselves treat kpop groups like disposable products, either consciously or unconsciously. It's like when your "favorite" smartphone brand releases a new model and you want to get it and throw your other one away lol.

Agreed. It leads to weird flexing like "omg they achieved this with only two songs!" As if having only two songs was a great feat to brag about.

There's also those who mock older groups who scored a huge hit years after debut, which is absurd too because you wish your faves could still grow steadily and reach new peaks after several years of career.

Welcome to kpop

I am seeing this kind of behaviour from kpop fans since 3rd generation already, the success of a group is what makes them feel better with themselves treating each achievement like their own.

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You would think that Starship might have totally given up on WJSN because of IVE but tadaa they are now on Queendom which I guess shows that they haven't gave up on them.

Not that they are flopping because WJSN despite not being popular among general kpop fans like I for the death of mine can not name a single WJSN stan here, they are actually pretty successful I guess? Who knows they might get am Oh My Girl Queendom boost

And then you have another thread talking about how Gfriend who is more popular and successful than them but apparently aren't earning enough for HYBE and treating Gfriend like they are the floppest group ever.

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apparently they sell pretty well? Don't know where they're getting their sales from tbh

i'm so tired by the NeW 4tH gEn LeAdErS threads pls make it stop

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i'm so tired by the NeW 4tH gEn LeAdErS threads pls make it stop

the "is it safe to say ___ is the new ___" threads 💀💀💀

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the "is it safe to say ___ is the new ___" threads 💀💀💀

it's becoming unbearable lmaooo every day it's a different group. if the "new 4th gen leader" changes every 36 mins, maybe none of them are actually leading and everyone should just relax instead of trying to find next big group to success stan

yup

Kpop fans are treating the groups like products

They cheer for the company to kick the old out so they open up space for the new thing

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the "is it safe to say ___ is the new ___" threads 💀💀💀

I want to make those people unsafe lmao

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Random thought that may or may not be relevant I guess it's totally irrelevant but whatever

You would think that Starship might have totally given up on WJSN because of IVE but tadaa they are now on Queendom which I guess shows that they haven't gave up on them.

Not that they are flopping because WJSN despite not being popular among general kpop fans like I for the death of mine can not name a single WJSN stan here, they are actually pretty successful I guess? Who knows they might get am Oh My Girl Queendom boost

And then you have another thread talking about how Gfriend who is more popular and successful than them but apparently aren't earning enough for HYBE and treating Gfriend like they are the floppest group ever.

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I'm starting to think starship is more competent than some other agencies around. They seem to be making good decisions.

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Random thought that may or may not be relevant I guess it's totally irrelevant but whatever

You would think that Starship might have totally given up on WJSN because of IVE but tadaa they are now on Queendom which I guess shows that they haven't gave up on them.

Not that they are flopping because WJSN despite not being popular among general kpop fans like I for the death of mine can not name a single WJSN stan here, they are actually pretty successful I guess? Who knows they might get am Oh My Girl Queendom boost

And then you have another thread talking about how Gfriend who is more popular and successful than them but apparently aren't earning enough for HYBE and treating Gfriend like they are the floppest group ever.

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im a wjsn stan

i wanted the badges but they dont have any

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And also, Starship gave Sistar such a beautiful farewell like yeah I know we hate all companies every company sucks but they handled their disbandment like no other company would

they had the best disbandment tbh. i never stanned them and that last stage made me wanna cry, it was really sweet that they got that goodbye song and actually got to say goodbye

some groups just got half hearted songs or nothing at all. starship did well

You're not wrong. Fan behaviours shape how kpop works

I've touched on this before as well: The lack of value of idols in the industry and how fans contribute

sry to say this, but what do you expect from a kpop generation that acts (a lot) like trash.

you cant expect trash to treat others respectfully.

stan chungha

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Queendom has got me to start learning more about the members.

Like I have always had their songs in my playlist and also watch a couple of their performances but never got to know the members now I'm slowly catching up

i like many of their songs and know about the members but dont really care that much beyond a member or two

but i'd still call myself a fan since i like the music above all

here's the greatest playlist ever

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I'm starting to think starship is more competent than some other agencies around. They seem to be making good decisions.

Starshit actually has a fairly solid record of success. Maybe some group named "Boyfriend" might be considered their only flop... i mean none of these other groups are outright flops and a couple look like bigtime players.

Sistar

MonstaX

WSJN

Ive

Cravity

Doesnt stop me from hating on them though and wishing every one of the execs would be Starshipped out of Kpop.

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This song by Boyfriend is

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Damn that's a bop and a half, i only listened to half of it but it's damn good.

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Agreed. It leads to weird flexing like "omg they achieved this with only two songs!" As if having only two songs was a great feat to brag about.

There's also those who mock older groups who scored a huge hit years after debut, which is absurd too because you wish your faves could still grow steadily and reach new peaks after several years of career.

You thinking of Idle most recently? It's obnoxious that big 3 stans in particular go after them for this. Not everyone has the privilege and luck to hit big right out the gate.

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i'm so tired by the NeW 4tH gEn LeAdErS threads pls make it stop

Just wait for 5th gen leaders.. people will drop 4th gen so fast

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No it was mostly the consumers fault. How a company operates depends on the consumer behavior.

Kpop fans made this happen and this behavior will come at the expense of future Groups.

kpop was built on the foundation of being shallow

wtf do you want kpop fans to do?

ignore every new group until they disband?

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That was definitely not the point .

well you can either buy it or not buy it

you cant buy a product that is not being produced can you

so yes it is indeed kpop industry's fault by a long shot for getting greedy and making this structure to keep attracting new fans and making money

One more thing to add: This dont apply to Izone. Wizones have been crazy loyal to every member so far.

Yena and Yuri with 90-110k album sales, Yena even getting a top 10 hit.

Eunbi getting 60k and projected to match that with her second album - we see other soloists who suffer from huge drops in their second and third albums, but not Eunbi.

Ive going crazy in every metric.

Lessarefirm hype explosive, teasers getting millions and millions of views.

Hyewon's album selling out instantly, 20k, and my guess is she coulda tripled or quintupled it. Also with 450k YT subscribers, way more than any other Izone member.

Nako and Hitomi remaining popular in their HKT/AKB groups.

Only jobless Minju and Chaeyeon are still to be determined, but i would bet that Minju would approach Sakura and Wonyoung when it comes to fandom popularity and loyalty.

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February 22nd - “Nmixx TT sucks.” “It’s God awful.”

March 5th - “Nmixx is growing on me a little bit.”

April 8th - “Well, it’s been decided. I’m playing O.O at my wedding!”

That song is like the perfect example of what I'm talking about