why do hybe boy groups succeed with “non-noisy” music?

I wouldn't say all Hybe boy groups have quality music but BTS and Enhypen certainly do.

Nobody ever said you have to do noisy music to sell well

I think the assumption that you have is that people listen to idol groups for music.

Which is isn’t true especially for boy groups.

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Nobody ever said you have to do noisy music to sell well

Right I'm like...

Either way BTS and TXT can do "noisy" well too... exhibit A found below

Cix, Bae173 not coming from big 4, if they were they would be super successful

How the tides have turned. BTS’s music was frequently called noisy as they were rising in fame lol.

I don’t think anyone even knows what noisy means any more.

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Ateez, The Boyz are also not from Big 4 but they’re selling well. In The Boyz case, people said they became successful once they became “nosier” (The Stealer, Reveal did better than “Giddy up”, “Boy”). With Ateez, their “non-noisy” tracks like Wave,… also gets less attention than the “noisier” ones. So maybe Cix , Bae173 needs to become “noisier”?

it's just TBZ and ATEEZ are too talented to ignore, and their music are great, especially ATEEZ gain lots of fans because of their incredible stage presence and also because they sing live the most, they are like special case, there are tons of other boygroups who do noise music but can't achieve what they have achieved. Tbh Wave is one of ATEEZ's most successful songs, most people ignore their music cus its noisy but Wave could gather wider audience, and till this day its their song that has most unique listeners on melon, and it also used in several baseball competitions in korea during summer.

lmao its funny how people accuse tbz of making gay pop music and also noisy music while also calling it children music...

We love a versatile artist XD

They really bloom bloom pow'ed to the top like this

because they're talented...

Didn't kpop stans collectively dislike noise music? since when it has became recipe for success?

Because people are tasteless. This alone should’ve made CIX quadruple million sellers at the very LEAST

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Ohh i did not know that

i always assumed its a term created recently to put down 4th gen bgs

It was kpop antis and some random radio station in 2018. Apart from those people, antis were more geared towards branding BTS for plagiarism rather than their music.

Noise music is not a term created for kpop, don’t misunderstand

umm...Txt does have that rockish sound.I love them. I know i love u,loser and frost are such good songs

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How the tides have turned. BTS’s music was frequently called noisy as they were rising in fame lol.

I don’t think anyone even knows what noisy means any more.

This! Fire, DNA, Not Today, IDOL all have been called noise lol.....

Kpop fans always find reasons to diss boygroups. Every single kpop boy group which became successful has been shaded by kpop fans for one reason or the other. So nothing new happening....

Until now, I never understand why people called some 4th gen BG music as 'noise'. Is it because loud? But I listen to System of Down and Baby Metal, their music even louder

And they're singing+rapping properly too. Which part of 'noise' from their music?

Seventeen have always been doing the music the way it is now, their so-called "Freshteen" concept, and they started it as being opposite to the hip-hop leaning boygroups on that phase of Kpop back in 2015 (BTS is included in this list).

When they attempted to release a song that when far from the usual (Hit and Fear), fans didn't buy it. So Seventeen can't even be compared with the other groups mentioned + they're self producers, which makes everything different for them.

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How the tides have turned. BTS’s music was frequently called noisy as they were rising in fame lol.

I don’t think anyone even knows what noisy means any more.

The backlash they received when Not Today and Fire were released. People calling it the same as they call some 4th gen acts' music.

New Kpop fans will never know how it was.

i think every single group have their own concept and style to make music that appeals to their fanbase

svt members mentioned before that they didn't think that those darker concepts at that time of their debut matched them well so they went for a bright/refreshing one which fans still like today, nothing wrong. but to actually answer op's question, there's actually more factors to success in kpop other than music itself actually

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I feel like when there is something people are not 'accustumed to' or maybe don't understand, they'll just call it noise.

I think exactly the same.

It's like boomers people calling rap music "trash" while it's just not their taste.

They are just like these boomers.

I thought you wouldn't be able to succeed doing noisy music and you should do proper catchy and friendly pop songs for that. At least It was what K-pop stans teached me

because of the hybe

people who say that SKz ATEEZ and NCT have noisy music, don't listen to their bsides at all.

besides noisy music argument have been also used against bts in past. and who cares whether music is noisy or some sleepy ballad it should just suit to your ears, makes you excited and touch your soul.

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On a serious note,

aren't we over this debate already? talk about beating a dead horse. just listen to the music you like and leave "noisy" bgs alone

Not even a dead horse, a decomposed one at that.

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This! Fire, DNA, Not Today, IDOL all have been called noise lol.....

Kpop fans always find reasons to diss boygroups. Every single kpop boy group which became successful has been shaded by kpop fans for one reason or the other. So nothing new happening....

DNA noisy???

So NCT is 4th gen...

when u hear hybe oygroups groups "sing" u realize its all noise, therefore they are noisy . voila.

is to stop using rap in parts that do not make sense of the song. Noise music is not bad. Noise music tends to be catchy with a catchy chorus, pre chorus, or chorus. For me the difficulty and why I do not listen to it is because of the incoherence of the rap. This year without a doubt Rock With You , Anti Romantic, Loser Lover, Cinema, Love Song were without a doubt the best songs I have ever heard.

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people who say that SKz ATEEZ and NCT have noisy music, don't listen to their bsides at all.

besides noisy music argument have been also used against bts in past. and who cares whether music is noisy or some sleepy ballad it should just suit to your ears, makes you excited and touch your soul.

This. Best comment.

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Ohh i did not know that

i always assumed its a term created recently to put down 4th gen bgs

Trust and believe that Fire was dragged up and down and around town for being noisy.