is it a big deal for you if idols caught up in underage drinking controversy ?

nope

I'm too American

No I don't encourage minors to drink alcohol but I won't stop supporting someone for that

No

I would roll my eyes at them since i personally dislike being around people that drink or are drunk, and them being teens just makes it even more lame, but since i didn't give my friends any heat over it when they were teens (other than side eyeing them) i think it would be hypocritical to give idols heat over it

So no

I grew up in a Slavic country, here is a miracle if someone didn't drink until the legal age. I think everyone had a beer as a minor or tried it from our parents.

I would have a problem if someone would promote it actively, as a positive thing, but making a scandal because a kid had a photo where there was a beer on the table it's too much.

So no.

Eh it's just kids being dumb to themselves. Nothing that serious

Nope

One exeption though: if it’s older idols pooring drinks on underage girls.

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I grew up in a Slavic country, here is a miracle if someone didn't drink until the legal age. I think everyone had a beer as a minor or tried it from our parents.

I would have a problem if someone would promote it actively, as a positive thing, but making a scandal because a kid had a photo where there was a beer on the table it's too much.

So no.

Same, I live in a country where underage drinking is so normal that if you never tasted alcohol until you're 18, you're actually a weirdo.

Even the parents around here would let you take a small sip of champagne, wine or palinka during celebrations when you're a child.

It's a non-issue to me. My parents gave us modest amounts of beer and wine from the time we were little. We'd get a few little sips in our own cup and of course a little bit more when we got older. It was a normal thing. Every teen I knew drank at least a little.

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I grew up in a Slavic country, here is a miracle if someone didn't drink until the legal age. I think everyone had a beer as a minor or tried it from our parents.

I would have a problem if someone would promote it actively, as a positive thing, but making a scandal because a kid had a photo where there was a beer on the table it's too much.

So no.

Same. Literally, everyone on a New Year would drink bambus or take a sip of pelinkovac as a teen lol if I was an idol they would think I'm some type of raging alcoholic just by that fact

Face palm, worried for their group's reputation in SK, would continue being a fan if I thought their talent and charms outweighed underage drinking offense.

It's different when you take sips of alcohol with your family compared to drinking a full serving with friends or with a fake ID.

underage drinking is such a non issue lol. I would never encourage it, but I won't be cancelling someone for it either.

No.

But if they're encouraging it or giving alcohol to minors, then it's an issue.

Nope

Drinking age here is 18 and kids start at like 15. I don’t care

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It's different when you take sips of alcohol with your family compared to drinking a full serving with friends or with a fake ID.

Was this a reference to my comment and other people's?

Because this was just an example from when we are small children, most teenagers do actually have full servings of alcohol with friends around here.

No, I did it too lmao. As long as they weren't endangering anyone while drunk, it's good.

No.

Even though I think it's a bad idea, I won't cancel them or unstan them because of it. Tbh, it wouldn't even change my opinion of them. We've all done something stupid before.

No because I did it too and so did everyone I know

I would have to be a huge hypocrite to judge an idol for doing the same thing

I guess we all agree that it's a not much problem, no need to be harsh on the idols (i mean idk if someone is being) but as long as people know this is not responsible? but who am i to talk i used to drink since underage days but now i am all clean

I don't think it's a BIG deal. More like a personal one that should be between the underaged idols and their parents/ handlers.

That's all I can say on the subject considering I myself quit drinking at 19......

I hate alcohol and if I could I would make all my favs stop drinking it but I can't and it is their life.

It's not a big deal to me to be honest i know people their age do the same thing and teenagers different things as long as they don't hurt themselves and people I'm ok with it, even though I'm against drinking

I really couldn’t care less. It’s natural and common that teenagers experiment with things like that.

I think it’s really unfair to judge people harshly on things they did when they were kids.

With those kind of things, what matters is if they endangered other people whether it's driving under influence or something else.

Otherwise, it's something that's done by the youth worldwide. I'm not a fan of the sort of drinking culture they seem to have in the country but I won't cancel a young idol if they drank once or twice (again if it has no repercussions)

I did it too, therefore I can't blame teens for getting curious. I just hope they won't exaggerate and put themselves in danger. Alcoholism ain't cool.

I think its hard to prove it. So it depends on people opinions

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Was this a reference to my comment and other people's?

Because this was just an example from when we are small children, most teenagers do actually have full servings of alcohol with friends around here.

It's a reference to a whole cultural mindset. I'm from the U.S by the way.

When I was in high school my friends went beyond marijuana. MDMA and mushrooms to be exact. I know someone who works in the surgical ward who did hard drugs while working as a health care professional. I'm getting off topic..

Remember we are talking about idols here, not people who live private lives. I know not everyone has different standards for idols versus non-idols, but I do. I know many people on this forum go by the standard that idols "are people too." I know idols aren't performing brain surgery or designing bridges but I still place a different standard on idols and people who are not idols.

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It's a reference to a whole cultural mindset. I'm from the U.S by the way.

When I was in high school my friends went beyond marijuana. MDMA and mushrooms to be exact. I know someone who works in the surgical ward who did hard drugs while working as a health care professional. I'm getting off topic..

Remember we are talking about idols here, not people who live private lives. I know not everyone has different standards for idols versus non-idols, but I do. I know many people on this forum go by the standard that idols "are people too." I know idols aren't performing brain surgery or designing bridges but I still place a different standard on idols and people who are not idols.

But why would you hold those standards for idols when these things where done in their youth, when it's possible that they didn't even know they will become idols in the future? It's unrealistic to expect them to be perfect, especially before becoming public persons.

Regarding your marijuana comments, I come from a country where marijuana is illegal, so I can't talk too much about it, except that I had a few high school friends who were doing it and went into rehabilitation afterwards.

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But why would you hold those standards for idols when these things where done in their youth, when it's possible that they didn't even know they will become idols in the future? It's unrealistic to expect them to be perfect, especially before becoming public persons.

How many idols are still promoting during middle age? Sechskies and Shinhwa members? Sechskies at least released music earlier this year. Some idols debut when they're underaged. Most idols train from middle school or early high school age to become idols unless they are street cast.

I'm getting nit picky.

I know where you're coming from. You don't want someone to pay for something trivial done at a young age. It's unfair that someone's past can have such a strong effect.

On my first comment, I was saying I personally would not stop being a fan of an idol if they had an individual underage drinking controversy. But I'm also realistically aware that underage controversies aren't nothing. Controversies of any kind will affect the reputation, popularity, and therefore money-making cap of the idol. Controversies affect their group members. Controversies affect the support staff in their company: managers, accountants, cafeteria workers, etc.

I'm not saying that underaged drinking is fundamentally wrong, but underage drinking controversies have real life consequences on an idol's metrics and monetary value. Cause and effect. Now you can tell me a person is not a metric nor a commodity and that I'm coming from an amoral standpoint.

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But I'm also realistically aware that underage *drinking* controversies aren't nothing.

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How many idols are still promoting during middle age? Sechskies and Shinhwa members? Sechskies at least released music earlier this year. Some idols debut when they're underaged. Most idols train from middle school or early high school age to become idols unless they are street cast.

I'm getting nit picky.

I know where you're coming from. You don't want someone to pay for something trivial done at a young age. It's unfair that someone's past can have such a strong effect.

On my first comment, I was saying I personally would not stop being a fan of an idol if they had an individual underage drinking controversy. But I'm also realistically aware that underage controversies aren't nothing. Controversies of any kind will affect the reputation, popularity, and therefore money-making cap of the idol. Controversies affect their group members. Controversies affect the support staff in their company: managers, accountants, cafeteria workers, etc.

I'm not saying that underaged drinking is fundamentally wrong, but underage drinking controversies have real life consequences on an idol's metrics and monetary value. Cause and effect. Now you can tell me a person is not a metric nor a commodity and that I'm coming from an amoral standpoint.

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I think you're rather harsh in your views regarding idols and their controversies but it's your opinion I guess.

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I really couldn’t care less. It’s natural and common that teenagers experiment with things like that.

I think it’s really unfair to judge people harshly on things they did when they were kids.

Word. If I were to be judged for all the bad things I did when I was young, I'd be locked up right now lol.

No

Unless it has caused an accident or endangered someone's life then I don't care. I probably had my first sip of wine at like 10, pretty common where I'm from.

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I think you're rather harsh in your views regarding idols and their controversies but it's your opinion I guess.

I agree I'm harsh!

My dp may be a little mochi but I am obviously not.

Probably as it’s not sending out a very good message to young fans if an idol is drinking under 18, but by the same token a lot of normal people do it too. Some idols need to keep in mind that every action has a reaction and they can have consequences.