Brief response by Ador:
Adore countered in a phone call with YTN , saying that taking over management rights is impossible given the current shareholding structure, and that the evidence presented by Hive was also at the level of a personally written memo at the level of an idea.
https://n.news.naver.com/article/052/0002027407?sid=103
If this is their only defense, it seems like they're in pretty bad shape. I'm not a lawyer though.
Display MoreI really feel bad for the girls. It seems like MHJ MAY have tried to brainwash them to go with this "plan" i guess is the best word to put it?
I hope they get all the support they need mentally.
now share that Keg.
edit: stupid giant emoji problem
That emoji is hilarious! 🤣
Heeeey you got another facepalm! I'll never catch up at this rate. 🥺
Which i said is because labels arent heavily involved with the art so the fights are mostly between artist. But the same fights are happening.
We're making two completely points but that's ok!
Display MoreBREAKING: Hive announces interim audit results “Securing evidence of plan to seize control of Adore” [Official]
[News Reporter Lee Min-ji] Hive disclosed the results of an interim audit regarding an attempt to seize management rights from its subsidiary Adore.
According to the audit results released by Hive on April 25, Hive confirmed the specific facts that a plan to seize management rights was established led by the CEO of Adore and also secured physical evidence.
During the investigation, one of the audit subjects submitted information assets containing plans to seize management rights and contacts with external investors as evidence, and also admitted to writing a Hive attack document for this purpose.
According to the face-to-face investigation and the conversation transcripts included in the submitted information assets, Adore's CEO instructed executives to prepare a way to pressure Hive to sell its shares in Adore.
In accordance with this instruction, methods for terminating the exclusive contract with the artist and invalidating the contract between Adore's CEO and Hive were discussed in detail. There were also conversations such as, 'Let's bring in global funds and make a deal with Hive,' 'Critical appeal for everything that Hive does,' and 'Think of ways to harass Hive
The conversation log also contained action plans such as ‘preparing for public opinion in May’ and ‘making Adore an empty shell and taking him out.’
Hive also obtained a statement from the audit subject that "The wording 'ultimately exiting Hive' is a transcription of what the CEO of Adore said."
Based on the data, Hive plans to submit a complaint on the 25th against those involved on charges of breach of trust.
Hive said, "We plan to do our best to provide psychological and emotional care for the New Genes members and support them for a successful comeback in the future. We also plan to meet with the members' legal representatives as soon as possible to discuss ways to protect the members."
Park Ji-won, CEO of Hive, said, "We apologize to our fans, artists, and members for causing concern due to events that occurred in the process of upgrading the multi-label." “I will do my best to ensure stability,” he said.
Gonna need a lot more beer tonight. I joke a lot here but on a very serious note, I feel a lot of compassion and empathy for New Jeans members. They are going through some HEAVY emotions right now and will be for the foreseable future. I started out my career working exclusively with kids their age and that's already such a tough time developmentally. Add to that being on the world stage and now having a parental figure not be who you maybe thought they were- that's honestly heartbreaking and I'm sure their hearts are breaking.
OK, serious moment over. TAP THE KEG! 🍻
Display Morelol why are people pretending western artist don't beef over same things. Only difference is kpop companies are directly involved with artist music more than in the west so artist beef directly with each other.
Olivia rodrigo got called out over multiple plagiarisms over sour
Drake has beef with 90% of Canadian rappers/hip hop over stealing his flow and sound
Nicki Minaj constantly calls other female rappers clones for having similar flows to her
Every white rapper constantly gets shade thrown after them for emulating em
List goes on and on
Aside from the 90s rap scene and a few other exceptions, the labels don't generally beef. That's what the original conversation was about. Not artist beef.
SUCCESS! I've finally received a facepalm. I was feeling left out earlier. 🥺
The things about the truck is that I have seen korean twitter NJ fans say they don't know where the truck came from. And we'll, three Korean Twitter accounts don't represent the whole Fandom lol.
Regardless it could have been a small group of Korean fans, a journalist or maybe the boogieman idk. I just find the imagery of a hybe employee calling a truck company hilarious
If it's true that MHJ mistreated lower level staff, it could be one or more of them. 🤣 That's some shit I would do if I knew I could get away with it.
One thing that all of the articles make clear is that everyone at Hybe is talking to the media now. The officials working at the different sub-labes seem to act on their own accord by sharing their perspectives both positively and negatively about Hybe and MHJ's actions.
Feels like there's a lot of bottled up frustration
The unnamed execs are giving solid feedback, judging by that article. If it leads to even a small bit of soul searching for Hybe as a whole, it's a good opportunity to improve some things with how the company is run. Just like how MHJ had a few good points, which I hope aren't lost in the dumpster fire.
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i ask because bsb and nsync were under the same label throwing music out there at the same time while all the other boy band's were making headlines...til they all sued their company.
while i understand we have different ways and such here then korea
i don't understand how this is an issue...nsync were successfull in their own way while bsb was too only bsb outlasted them for many reasons.
I personally don't see this as an issue, i see it as some friendly competition, they came a year after new jeans if anything it's inspiration but they aren't an exact clone.
NO I AIN'T TRYING TO RILE UP THE SHOOTERS
just playing devil's advocate.
I guess the kpop industry just isn't used to thinking that way, hence MHJ and fans' epic meltdown over it. I've always thought most of the "you plagiarized!" controversies have been really dumb, even in my own fandoms.
What i'm confused about is that Hybe has all these sub labels, just like Rainbowshitfuckers and them buying all those labels...yet they are all managed seperately and do whatever they want, just rbw and hybe are the big cahoney's who own everything.
so wouldn't it be normal for all the subs to create something similiar/be inspired by it and not mean it in a malicious way even if they are all owned by the same big ass company? or am i even making sense...my adhd is having a hard time focusing.
You're right. And Western sister labels do it all the time. UMG owns a gazillion labels and there are always like 3 artists at the same time who have similarities because that's what sells.
I mean the only time i really saw competition out here in the u.s. was the 90's when the sudden surge of bg's happened...
but backstreet boys and nkotb came out as the ones who's lasted the longest
we had otown, youngstown, c-note, no authority, bbmak, westlife, nsync, all that shit all at the same time lol
I think it's the hyper-competitiveness of Korean society. I realized that right after i hit send.
Display MoreArticle discussing more problems between hybe labels and the limits of the multi-label system;
The conflict between Hive and its affiliated label Adore revealed the loopholes and limitations of multi-labels. Min Hee-jin, CEO of Adore, targeted the girl group Eyelet under Belif Lab, another label of Hive, and claimed that they had copied New Jeans, and Hive launched an audit, claiming that there was an attempt by CEO Min to seize management rights.
Mr. A, a label official under Hive who requested anonymity, said, “The multi-label system that promotes independent operation is actually inciting conflict between labels,” and added, “The structure that stimulates competition became the seed of conflict and eventually exploded.”
“Hive’s multi-label system is designed so that each label operates independently and competition and cooperation between labels occur in order to reduce dependence on specific artists and labels.”
There was internal competition but no cooperation, and excessive independent operation triggered a breakdown between labels. Mr. B, a label official under Hive, pointed out, “There was cooperation for dance challenges when artists came back, but there was no cooperation or collaboration at the company level or between labels.” He added, “Rather, there was more collaboration with external agencies, so the term ‘multi-label’ was meaningless.” did.
Critics point out that lining up sales among labels has also increased internal conflicts. Last year, Hive domestic labels had big hit music (552.3 billion won), Pledis (32.7 billion won), Adore (110.3 billion won), Source Music (61.1 billion won), Billie Lab (27.3 billion won), and KOZ Entertainment (19.4 billion won). Labels with relatively low sales have no choice but to be wary of others within Hive. After all, they have no choice but to make "high-selling music" rather than good music. In the process, they often brought in original IP (intellectual property) created by other labels without hesitation because they were Hive labels, resulting in uniformity of music and style.
This is why the suspicion of Aylet copying New Genes should never be taken lightly. The reason CEO Min was able to make this claim is because he is not just a manager but a person who directly plans and produces content. CEO Min's detailed attention to the New Jeans members' hair, makeup, and styling, as well as the album concept, music, music video, and short-form content, created the current result. They decided that such results were borrowed without the consent of CEO Min and Adore, and that they went beyond benchmarking and reached the level of copying, so they decided to raise the issue. CEO Min's actions, as a New Genes producer, are an action to protect the original IP of New Genes.
Mr. C, a label official under Hive, said, "When Eyelet's teaser was released, there were mixed reactions even internally." He added, "There must be a clear investigation into CEO Min's suspicion of stealing management rights, but the suspicion of Eyelet's similarity to New Jeans must also be clearly revealed to prevent internal conflict. “There will be no more of this,” he said.
Interesting insights! The multi-label system can work but they've definitely gotta revamp a few things. Maybe monthly meetings between each department/exec staff and their counterparts to get everybody on the same page and viewing each each other more as collaborators and less as competition (even though they are competition, in the end)? Why do we not see such public spats and competitiveness in Western multi-label systems? Or maybe we do. I'm not an expert.
Edit: Wait, I think I answered that last question for myself.
All we know is: Bunnies have not claimed the truck, so the question is, where did it come from? I actually thought it was a bit strange yesterday that they'd send a truck already? The truck's wording is pro-Hybe and has been tied to pro-Hybe connections. We know media has been used heavily in this battle of public opinion.
I figure it's a small group of fans or even just one fan of means.
Oh that's an angle I hadn't thought of! Or maybe it was Source Music getting their revenge.
It would be funny if Hybe did send a truck to themselves. I don't think they did because that seems too amateurish and not worth their time but if they did, it would be hilarious. I mean we've already got Ador VPs saving their Word docs under file names that sound like something Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory would come up with.
Everyone watched him dancing and it drove them insane. This is the outcome.
Exclusive] Adore, official statement on the 24th? “Completely untrue..Focus only on New Genes’ comeback.”
Some reports that Adore would announce an official position on the 24th regarding the management dispute with Hive were dismissed as “completely unfounded.”
Adore told Daily Sports on the same day, “Some reports that an official position will be announced today (24th) are completely unfounded,” and “there were no plans in the first place.” Adore then added, “We plan to focus on New Genes’ comeback for the time being.”
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003346206
Ok, I can safely go to bed now. I was gonna stay up to see if there was an announcement. lol
Dammit. I have to go to bed soon.
This is such a multi pronged, all fronts attack on her....it will be fascinating to see how she responds in full. I have a feeling she has a lot to say and say she will. She will get kicked out but not before fighting tooth and nail
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Given how she does the narcissistic word vomit thing, it'll be a helluva show.
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I guess we know what's probably on that laptop, if this is true?
