This is my last potentially messy thread for the month 
Anything else I post will be healing and wholesome
Collecting more data. This will not be anonymous 
I would like to remind everyone Twice first album sold 708 first day
That's all 
Proceed.
Newpants 
potentially messy thread for the month
He says at the end of the month
This is my last potentially messy thread for the month
checks time
it's currently 9.30am 29 February 2024
see you tomorrow my friend lol
just want to remind everyone that Blackpink was hated by the company stans on debut
Blackjacks (most) definitely hated them cause they atrribute Bp as the downfall of 2ne1
The Yg BG stans were not happy because YG was already incompetent with managing their current group. 1 more new group = even longer hiatus for their faves
YG family only existed during Big Bang, 2ne1 time. It has never been a family since then
My Right Toe
I mean duh
Did NJ really debut with EIGHT music videos?? I know Attention, Hybe Boy and Cookie were their official singles but how did you get to eight videos with just those three singles. And did they really get Todays Top Hits playlisting on Spotify? Isnt that the most important and most prized playlist on the app?
Not Twice, because Like Ooh Aah wasn't that groundbreaking hit that say Bad Girl Good Girl was
Tbh, a lot of JYPE groups don't have huge explosive debuts, they usually have their most popular songs after that. I think Day6 first day sales were double digits not even 100s (I could be wrong). Of course this changed with NMIXX when it comes to physical sales but songs wise they didn't had that privilege people are projecting
Unlike YG or HYBE their company privileges start right at the start of debut.
Blackpink debuted when the whole concept of YG family was falling apart and was blamed for 2NE1's disbandment and Twice whilest they had their survival show it was nowhere as popular as the biggest survival shows in korea + their debut song did not do well from the start, it was a sleeper hit.
They also did not debut in an era where the kpop market is as global as it is now. So it cant really be Bp or Twice
This quote is good for a chuckle
Quote"After promoting their song on music charts for three weeks, the rookie group’s song had slowly descended to 99th place on the charts, and it seemed as if the song would fall off the charts completely. However, as a gift to the group for working hard and releasing such a good song, fans helped propel the song back up the chart, where it peaked at 9th place despite the tough competition. At the news of this, netizens have praised TWICE for their impressive feats as rookies, with many showing support for the group."
3rd gen BP
4th gen NJ
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New Jeans easily. I'd also throw Lesserafim in the mix. I'd say they benefited more than New Jeans.
LSF is yet to have any of their songs on tth. Not even perfect night was blessed with that privilege whiles newjeans were having their debut tracks playlisted
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I don't know what you were expecting, but you did this to yourself.
Did NJ really debut with EIGHT music videos?? I know Attention, Hybe Boy and Cookie were their official singles but how did you get to eight videos with just those three singles. And did they really get Todays Top Hits playlisting on Spotify? Isnt that the most important and most prized playlist on the app?
Attention - two MVs (1 official 1 performance)
Hype Boy - six MVs (4 official solo+unit & 2 performance)
Cookie - 1 MV
Hurt - 1 MV
The above exclude intro MV for Hype Boy, and all other special performance video not labelled as "MV"
BP and NJs
newpants
Did NJ really debut with EIGHT music videos?? I know Attention, Hybe Boy and Cookie were their official singles but how did you get to eight videos with just those three singles. And did they really get Todays Top Hits playlisting on Spotify? Isnt that the most important and most prized playlist on the app?
Here, the amount of music videos for a group with only 3 eras is crazy, this level of privilege in kpop has no precedent:
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By their 3 era twice had only 3 music videos, newjeans got 21 on 12 months... like do people here understand how much money needs to be invested to give a rookie group +20 music videos, all other content and promo newjeans had? If they didn't become successful after all that it would be embarrassing
Here, the amount of music videos for a group with only 3 eras is crazy, this level of privilege in kpop has no precedent:
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By their 3 era twice had only 3 music videos, newjeans got 21 on 12 months... like do people here understand how much money needs to be invested to give a rookie group +20 music videos, all other content and promo newjeans had? If they didn't become successful after all that it would be embarrassing
Didn't MHJ say their budget was the same as Hybe gives for all their debut groups its just that that used the budget differently and didn't spend on things she thought were unnecessary? No ads on the MVs, no buying articles, no trying to get them onto shows or predebut promotion photoshoots or videos must have saved them a bundle. Hurt was basically shot in a field with 1 camera doing nothing but close ups (cheap), cookie was a box MV (notoriously cheap) and the reused loads of shots across the 4 hype boy scenes. Most groups probably often shoot enough for multiple MV's, they just never make use.
The same, multiple shots in one day thing explains ditto, ETA and Zero were funded by big companies as ads and I wouldn't be surprised if cartoon network payed for the Newjeans MV as part of the joint project. The most expensive by far is deffo supershy and cool with you, but those are both after mega successes so it makes sense.
Not saying they ain't privileged, the marketing strategy wouldn't have worked otherwise, but MHJ has explained the budget countless times.
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I voted and posted, just for you 
It's hard to say definitively who benefited the most from company privilege among Twice, BlackPink, and NewJean. I think almost of all them did. This doesn't really matters because ultimately, the dedication and talent of the Kpop singers themselves have been crucial in achieving their accomplishments..
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