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Quote from ISaidISaid

That… still doesn’t tell me anything. Ofc monthly listeners will go up when some of the songs are viral.

I guess what would be interesting is if this translates to like their albums new or old getting traction eventually.

Well maybe it’ll happen who knows.

I'd say so, their latest album is doing better than the last by quite a margin. I remember seeing something about their past TT's increasing in streams when takedown first took off (can't find it now but will add if I do).

The TT has been charting in Korean better than expected, this is the latest data but so it doesn't show everything, like it breaking into the melon top 100's every morning around 7-9am.

Got the biggest album streams since 2021

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I'm actually rooting for them, Onces.

I want the timeline where Twice is the only other girl group besides HUNTR/X to make it on the chart this quarter

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Honestly they are doing really well, especially considering they haven't promoted strategy for months and they have lollapalooza in two weeks.

Looking at this, I'm looking forward to seeing what lolla does.

Quote from monalisalove

?? Twice charted before too, no?

Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

I thought I Got You charted?

Yama said this quarter. Quarters being:

Q1: January 1st to March 31st

Q2: April 1st to June 30th

Q3: July 1st to September 30th

Q4: October 1st to December 31st

Quote from vzal

No, not really. I mean of course the concept photos and stuff are all different, tracklist even. But a repackage just means the same album + 2-3 new songs. It is seen as a continuation of an era rather than a totally different, new one.

Something like Twicetagram and Merry & Happy.

Someone on twitter said the repackage might be to include the solos for the tour. Not a bad plan tbh, I'd be pissed if there was no way to stream them legally

Quote from Yama-Chan

I can only speculate based on what that aespa_stats account on twitter claimed allegedly happened.

Physical sales made up 46% of Dirty Work’s charting points and all those physical sales were unfortunately not counted.

As for the "why"? Beats me.

Maybe billboard has worked out a way to stop purchases made outside of the US counting? Maybe even getting around people using VPN's to buy? If the account they used to buy was tagged as outside the US or Canada, maybe that got it flagged and wiped?

Honestly just throwing out ideas at this point because this whole thing has been wild. First the whole impossible streams thing, now this.

I know one thing for sure, Apple is now realising that newjeans is lightning in a bottle and impossible to replicate, no matter what execs say.

Quote from Yama-Chan

I hadn't even considered how Mirae factors into this whole debacle. I know financial jargon and machinations are boring to 99% of K-Pop fans if they can't use them to brag about their favs, but the domino effect that could be triggered by BSH actually facing harsh punishments for his fraud would be massive.

It would actually send shockwaves through the industry and set a new precedent...from the new president who vowed to do exactly that.

I need people to also keep in mind that while BSH pocketed $200/$400 billion won in profits (I've seen both amounts reported, but who cares since the minimum for harsh penalties is a mere $5 billion), the total amount of the fraud is 1.2 TRILLION won.

This is why I keep side eyeing people who think he can just slip out of it using his wealth, status or connections. Maybe if it was a 1.2 million won fraud. But 1.2 TRILLION?

Let me borrow some words from ARMY back in the early weeks of the HYBE/MHJ Megathread

That man needs to be buried beneath the prison for this.

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One of the reasons this case is so interesting is how long this has been going on. These issues were apparent as soon as they went public, yet it barely made a ripple and he has been left alone despite investigations for years.

I wonder if the new administration is using Bang and Hybe as an example before they start going after others. I also wouldn't be shocked if they wanted to use this case as an entry way into reforming the laws to make sentencing harsher. Nothing Koreans hate more than one of their own embarrassing them on a world stage, and with Bang going all over the US to toot his own horn and buy awards for himself, not to mention the big news the initial IPO made, this case can easily gain them enough public support to make major changes.

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It means one of the largest shareholders in HYBE is divesting their shares of the company and trying to distance themselves as much as possible from them.

The National Pension Service may even be the largest institutional investor in HYBE, but don't quote me on that.

It's definitely a huge red flag.

From memory, if not one of the biggest investors, one of the most significant in SK. I remember people saying it was a big deal for them to be involved, one of the major reasons they got that award that gave them better loan rates and it was instrumental in helping them when they had a load of loans due but had no money to pay after all the mess with MHJ started.

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Not always. Sometimes it's best to just leave gracefully on a high than stick around long enough to turn a bittersweet ending more better than sweet.

AKA the sistar endin. It was perfect, left on a high and they all moved on and gave fans closure. Came back once for a random performance but thats it.

Quote from Yama-Chan

Why the hell are you in our taglist? Get out. Your thread history disqualified you long ago.

Can you add me to this taglist? I'm always seated for anything that will drag down Bang

Honestly her best song to date.... but then again its not like the bar was high

Quote from wsoet

What about Lee Soo-man?

Hasn't had shares or been part of SM in 2 years.

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Is the YG part old news? Or currently?

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Why is YG in court again ?

Quote from BIGnorBANG

Why's Yang back in court again?

Check the date, articles is from Friday apparently he smuggled luxury watches from overseas in 2014. He got gifted two watches in Singapore and didn't report it to customs. The manufacturer is getting done for avoiding customs charges.

Apparently its continuing from the 2017 case over the same thing. Got delayed as the manufacturer was overseas.

Quote from poteto

Has been found guilty but no one is reporting it, I haven't found an article made about that, just twitter posts. Can someone link those if it really exists?

I clicked on the twit post, the article included is here https://n.news.naver.com/article/015/0005153536

According to my Chromes translation 'According to the financial investment industry on the 3rd, the Financial Supervisory Service has decided to report to the Financial Services Commission with the opinion that Chairman Bang should be reported to the prosecution for fraudulent and unfair trading under the Capital Market Act as soon as possible.

The Financial Supervisory Service initially considered a plan to directly refer the case to the prosecution as a fast track (emergency measure), but changed its policy to conduct additional investigations, secure sufficient evidence, and then go through formal procedures. It is said that the decision was made based on the judgment that it would be more appropriate in terms of legality and legitimacy to go through the Securities and Futures Commission’s resolution rather than directly referral to the investigative authorities while the Financial Supervisory Service chairman position is vacant.' and 'The police, separate from the Financial Supervisory Service, are still investigating Chairman Bang and the PEF . The Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency's Financial Crimes Investigation Unit searched and seized the Korea Exchange in Yeouido, Seoul on the 30th of last month and secured data related to Hive's listing review. They had previously applied for search and seizure warrants twice but were rejected, but when they applied for a warrant again, the prosecution accepted it.'

So there are two investigations ongoing, the one by essentially the FTC wants him in jail whilst the police haven't gotten that far in their investigation yet.

How much you wanna bet the same reporters getting done for this fraud are the same ones always writing the articles about bangs weight loss and targeting everyone Bang tells them to? karma may take time, but it always comes

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If they have less "unflitered" streams than filtered must mean less chance of "cheating" compare to groups with a lot of "unfiltered" stream?........

Nope its the other way around. Unfiltered counts everything, including filtered so it should always be way more than the filtered streams. It should be impossible to have less overall streams than you have confirmed streams. Only way that would work is bots (like some are saying though I don't understand the how) or (my theory so shovel of salt because I really don't understand bots), someone agreed with spotify they'd have a certain amount of bumped confirmed streams, clearly expecting fans to mass stream and alot of that to be filtered out. But they had less fans mass streaming than predicted and didn't have time to amend the agreement to cover it up before the stats went public.

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I doubt Aespa is the only group this is true for. Just getting caught for it is unfortunate. Would it be possible that it’s not the company but fans doing it? More likely?

I'm blaming Apple. Considering they are using this song for an ad, it makes sense they'd want it to do well and tried to make sure a certain amount of streams would get through the filter.

Quote from patrik-k

What the heck are filtered and unfilterd streams?

Filtered means they've verified it as legit and count towards offical charts. Unfiltered includes all streams, including those that may be tagged as bots. So if you loop a song, or bots are used to stream it, it gets filtered out and not counted for the wider charts which are meant to show the true popularity of a song.

So for Aespa, they have less overall streams (bots and fans looping included) than streams confirmed to be legit... which is impossible if their streaming numbers are legit. IMO, it probs has something to do with the song being used for that Apple ad.

Quote from BridgerAlec

But don’t you think if reselling was capped or banned entirely, it might hurt genuine fans who can no longer attend and just want to recover their cost? I totally get the frustration, scalpers ruin it for everyone—but maybe the bigger issue is that companies benefit from this system too much to change it. Shouldn’t the government step in to enforce fair pricing if the platforms won’t act responsibly?

Fact is you shouldn't be able to sell something like a concert ticket for more than you paid for the actual ticket, it needs to be capped. There is no reason for fans who can no longer attend to try and get the buyer to also cover the cost they spent on a hotel or on planned transport, that should be dealt with by the cancellation policy of the hotel/planned transport. And realistically, no-one trying to sell the ticket for more than they bought it for is a fan, just resellers.

Frankly, if reselling were banned and replaced with a set return policy, so you'd get back at least 80-50% of your purchase price as long as you didn't refund within a week of the event, it'd solve the issue. Fact is the US gov under Biden did try to deal with it, and from what I remember, that case is still ongoing. The DOJ is trying to break them up, the more they get broken up, the more they are going to need to try and attract customers with cheaper ticket prices.

Quote from doesitneedsaying

I would really like to hear what was his sources for writing that nonsense.

He wanted to seems like a knowledgeable person and ended up looking like a fool.

Same. Apparently he is getting roasted in SK because.... well Japan were doing that kind of thing to Koreans which adds a whole other level of ick considering SK only gained independence 70ish years ago and are still fighting with people denying the atrocities committed towards them were real.

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We have none.

I just counted:

24 in Belgrade (capital and the biggest city (population of 1,5m)

3 in novi sad (300k)

2 in niš (200k)

And 10 more in the rest of the country. So 39 in total. We have population of 6,7m.

As for Starbucks, 9 and they are all in Belgrade.

"White people" there are more than 40 countries in europe with god knows how many languages. 200km away from me are countries whose languages i don't understand. We are similar but at the same time different. There's no "white people". That might work in America but in Europe it means nothing.

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There are people now saying he was probably on about lactose intolerance which is apparently really prevalent in Asia and particularly in East Asia...??? which is also insane because its not like its that rare in 'white people'.

Why do I get the feeling he was feeling really proud that he included something from three groups when he wrote that