if people hate two minute songs so much then what do you think the optimal runtime for a song should be?

3min+ is right for me

2:30min+ you are barely cutting corners but that’s ok

Less than 2minutes should be a crime especially if it ain’t an interlude, intro or outro

4 minutes.

I think 1.52sec is fine.

Even 30 sec like Get Up is fine.

Depends on the type of song.

Some songs that maintain the same mood for its entirety don't need to be too long otherwise they'll sound too repetitive.

It really depends on the song. Good songs should be at least 3:30 unless it can feel complete (or serves a poetic purpose) of it to be shorter than that. Anything else can do whatever.

around 30 minutes

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five is too long.

never too long when the song is good

3:20-30

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around 30 minutes

this got me thinking what's the longest kpop song...

3 to 4 minutes

if the song sounds good under 3 minutes then it's fine

but you wonder if releasing sample length songs and doing the bare minimum is becoming a habit

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this got me thinking what's the longest kpop song...

Idk if Jay park counts but I remember reading he has a 20mins long track

Anywhere from 4 to 10 minutes.

JUST LET SONGS BREATHE FFS.

JUST LISTEN TO THIS EPIC GUITAR COVER OF PRINCE'S PURPLE RAIN, NO VOCALS BUT THAT GUITAR OUTRO FROM 3:40 ONWARDS IS MESMERIZING.

Obviously Kpop cant do this since the idols would be dead after dancing for 8 minutes straight. But this megabop show how AWESOME longer songs can be.

Same with Blackpink's Boombaya, shit is actually 4 minutes long, that's an eternity for Kpop. That's why it's the best Kpop song ever made .

3.28

or even better:

the length doesnt matter as long as its COMPLETE

you can have 2 minutes song but if it has proper structure that songs generally have no one would complaint

generally a song should have verse - prechorus - chorus - verse - prechorus - chorus - bridge - chorus

total of 2 verse, 2 prechorus, 3 chorus, 1 bridge

or if youre creative you can rearrange the sequence and still make a bop, not a floppy mess

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Idk if Jay park counts but I remember reading he has a 20mins long track

jay park is a korean singer and kpop associated so I guess that counts

do you have a link to the song or at least a name?

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This is almost 20

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https://www.kpopmap.com/top-13…-better-than-short-films/

that's right someone did show me eternally before

and I was like nah 20min - pass lol

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I know that MVs can be long since they are telling a story and whatnot but what about the actual "song" portion of it though...

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Ohh good point. Txt is really not that long lol

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which is why I take those songs with a huge long MV with a grain of salt

3.25- 3.45

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this is the longest for sungkyu

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these jay park ones

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cheers mate

Elvis paved the way

It depends on the song, honestly. For me, it has to be at least 3 minute long.

I know SOLAR's RAW is just an Intro, basically, but I think this song is THE best example when you have a freakin' amazing and cool song, but you can only listen to the half of it. 💀 I'm still banging the wall for the full version!🤣 If I want to be controversial, Tiktok ruined Kpop, or Youtube or Instagram. I don't know which one started this whole dance challenge trend.

But then again, here's this EPIC cover, that's only 2:10 minute long, and sure I'm biased, but I don't think I ever heard a better (COVER) song in Kpop.🤣

7 minutes.

I want to hear proper song structure with verses, chorus, bridge and instrumental. I'm okay with any length that has that. But that's definitely above 3 minutes.

Some bts examples:

Spring day is 4:34

Pied piper 4:06

Home is 3;54

Also, there are some exceptions that work without bridge such as black swan which is perfection.

4 to 5 minutes

3 can work and is fine, but almost all 3 minutes songs will only have time for two pairs of choruses and verses followed by a bridge and the ending chorus

Less than 3 minutes probably means a lack of bridge

Between 3:30-4:30 I think is the best, but better too long than too short. When it's shorter than 3 minutes it starts to be too short, and anything shorter than 2:30 is a bit pointless song.

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4 minutes.

I met people who said this is too long

Basicly some girl who is into JPop Dmed me on Discord and said "You listen to JPop right? I need to tell you that they all make too long music" the named artists she gave have no song shorter than 3:30 and about 3/4 of the songs are over 4:00 and I was seeing the longest song was 5:20 and thought "thats not that long, whats her problem with this?" and she said she cannot stand long songs to focus on the songs and I'm like "what?"

3:30!!!! anything lower is a crime and i will not accept it!!

i mean i'll still listen if it's good but it's sooo disappointing when it's a good song that's only 2 minutes