So what’s the real reason Korea turned on Twice so much, can’t be just concept change?

Its past their peak, it happens.

And if they promote the song, it'lldo better.

What comes up must go down

idk??????

TWICE IS DEFINTELY OVER IN KOREA like hasbeens more internationally tho nowadays. But their singles just dont do too good even internationlly. IMO I think their music has dwindled moonlight is nice tho.

Who cares? This is their 12th mini album.

Can we get double akorns everytime this thread gets made

it a very tough GG competition
their competition in the new era 4th Gen
is as pretty and younger than them

can't maintain their cute concept as they get older ?
or too cringe to do cute song?

they need to adapt do the next popular concept among gen public/fanboys
real sexy concept like AOA

their is a reason why GG had maximum 1-4 peak years?

fanboys /gen public like younger +prettier women is a cycle of life can't be change 😅

you can't cheat your youthful aura
best selling or most popular
image of an idol is their

cheerful youthful presence
cute/sexy > girl crush bad ass

Isn't this your second thread on the same topic??? Lawd you trolls have no one who loves you in real life.

i can't find the tweet op posted in the twitter account this is on»»???

that looks like a twice anti account are those real stats?

they're not underage anymore

korea likes them young

real young

Because 13-year-olds hate being reminded that they, too, are going to turn 25.

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that looks like a twice anti account are those real stats?

Maybe? But looks like an aespa anti too, not even an "ot3" MY when they say things like this:

If you see their likes, you'll find out who they actual stan lol

OP which groups do you stan? Perhaps es en es dee/bee pee?

Twice has transitioned from a Cute concept to their current concept. I don't know what you call their concept now but it is not cute.

Korea loves Cute. You want to be #1 or so. Do Cute. Examples are New Jeans, Ive and Stayc.

They had to do this because the rest of the world, barfs at Cute. So if you want to be successful outside Korea, do not do Cute.

Also Twice promoted their last song for 10 days. Other groups will promote for 4 weeks or even longer.

Like always, JYP poor management, but at least with them, they put effort in the beginning, with Itzy and Nmixx they didn't even bother.

Really shouldn't be a surprise at this point.

out of charts in two days, this make no sense. Even smaller fandoms can hold song in top 100 for some time.

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Twice has transitioned from a Cute concept to their current concept. I don't know what you call their concept now but it is not cute.

Korea loves Cute. You want to be #1 or so. Do Cute. Examples are New Jeans, Ive and Stayc.

They had to do this because the rest of the world, barfs at Cute. So if you want to be successful outside Korea, do not do Cute.

Also Twice promoted their last song for 10 days. Other groups will promote for 4 weeks or even longer.

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But Nj and Ive concept are far from cute. Not sure about stayc because I don't follow them. How songs like Ditto, Omg, Love Dive and After Like are cute? The girls are cute but their concept definitely not. Bp and Rv concept are not cute either yet still doing really well on chart until now. Gidle and Lsf concept too is not cute at all but chart really high. No top 4th gen groups currently going to cute concept route which makes your point totally wrong.

And now most groups only promoting their songs up to two weeks in music show especially for older groups. So, I beg to differ what happen to Twice is due to their new concept, it is not about that at all. If any popular groups especially gg released a catchy song, Korea will eat it. Unfortunately, this is what Twice has been lacking lately. Catchy songs, that is all it takes.

Branding. Influence.

concept & music

this is why cute concepts for girl groups should be avoided for the very beginning, once the girls mature the general public won't grow along with them and they would start to look elsewhere for what they were once interested in

the tt is bad selected...their bsides re better

I prefer breaktought if they want mature concept for kr market

Happens to every group. No one stays at the top forever

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concept & music

this is why cute concepts for girl groups should be avoided for the very beginning, once the girls mature the general public won't grow along with them and they would start to look elsewhere for what they were once interested in

That's what makes me appreciate SNSD more, they survived concept changes

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That's what makes me appreciate SNSD more, they survived concept changes

I don't think snsd were that cute maybe for one concept but then they quickly transitioned to a different concept I think that's why it didn't affect them

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Isn’t this the same with Blackpink who stick with “girl crush” and fans always complain and say they want something new, but Blackpink still gets hits?

blackpink does pink concepts though ( aiiyl, love sick girls, PWF and ice cream) it's not all girl crush so I guess there is some variety plus their b sides aren't all hip hop ish there is some pop sounds as well

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I don't think snsd were that cute maybe for one concept but then they quickly transitioned to a different concept I think that's why it didn't affect them

During their first 2 and a half years they were doing cute concepts, well they were kinda mixing it but all their big

hits were cute concepts

They completely changed after OH

the thing is twice debut concept wasnt even cute cute, loa was more teen crush with a mix of cute bc the outfits they had, now cheer up was a straight cute, male gaze directed and that set the record for their career and once they wanted out of it, korea didnt care

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Can we get double akorns everytime this thread gets made

I love your sig

Even your faves will peak sooner or later, let's learn to accept that groups will peak one day

Twice are anyway delivering good albums and it's what matters

They dropped out of the charts faster than my faves.

I don't think there's a point in time where you can definitively pin as the turning point for Twice flopping. But with Kpop evolving year in year out there's example to say X is the reason or Y is. For example a few years ago there was the shift away from cute which could be an explanation but then when Twice did music that want cute they still didn't do well, so concept change can't be the only reason. We've moved into the 4G so did that mean Twice was left behind as their older, perhaps but that doesn't explain how 2G ggs were able to chart better despite being even older.

With how regularly Twice flop now I don't think there's much point in trying to figure out any particular reason, it's just part of Kpop now.

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During their first 2 and a half years they were doing cute concepts, well they were kinda mixing it but all their big

hits were cute concepts

They completely changed after OH

yeah their cute concepts weren't that sugary cutesy as cheer up or TT ( sorry lol) except kissing you but their top hits were more on the bubblegum pop side genie, gee, oh!, the boys even tried hip hop ish concepts like I got a boy later and it was still succesful .

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I don't think snsd were that cute maybe for one concept but then they quickly transitioned to a different concept I think that's why it didn't affect them

SNSD did cute for SNSD (the song), kissing you, Gee and Oh (last cute concept) in their early careers. So they did do cute concepts early on, Kissing You is especially infamous for being almost embarrassingly too cute even by the members themselves lol.

But in that same time frame of 2007 to 2010 they did ITNW, Genie, RDR and Hoot. So while they did go in on cute for the first few CBs they also changed concept from Genie onwards which was a risky tactic and would be even now. Though of course it quickly built a name changing concepts every CB and are of the only ggs to find success doing so.

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Concept change isn't the only reasons it's an accumulation of multiple factor

Thats what we keep saying for years

Now let's move on to a new subject

even this ole twice anti is telling you to move on

this means you people should move on because it is tiring now

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SNSD did cute for SNSD (the song), kissing you, Gee and Oh (last cute concept) in their early careers. So they did do cute concepts early on, Kissing You is especially infamous for being almost embarrassingly too cute even by the members themselves lol.

But in that same time frame of 2007 to 2010 they did ITNW, Genie, RDR and Hoot. So while they did go in on cute for the first few CBs they also changed concept from Genie onwards which was a risky tactic and would be even now. Though of course it quickly built a name changing concepts every CB and are of the only ggs to find success doing so.

agree with kissing you but I don't consider gee, and oh! "overly cutesy" like I did with tt or cheer up and other songs (in my opinion) mind you, I was a fan of snsd when I got into kpop and those songs never made me cringe and I was new to kpop. My point is that snsd had more diversity in concepts overall and their songs weren't extreme cute from the beginning . I know about the girls being embarrassed about their early concepts lol