Going to school in Korea must be so hard. Bullying is definitely a full cultural thing in schools. I went through school and college and never experienced Bullying in any way. I just hear stories which aren't as bad as Bullying in Kdramas is.
This is a shame.
Lisa seems like a good and very reliable person.
not that expensive considering it's Seoul. The average wedding cost in the US is like $35K...with weddings in cities like NYC costing at least $60K.
Interesting.
I'm sure there are people who do small civil weddings. In the US though, rings sure cost a lot. Their women seem to understand the value of rings big time.
Yes. I'm hoping he poaches each SNSD member and Jessica.
Jessica is American. She can definitely use that label that's if LSM didn't take part in kicking her out.
Looks like you can't have a proper wedding when you are broke in Korea.
Imagine a plot twist if LSM opened a new company in SK after his ban is over and all SNSD members signed there.
That'd be a bigger scandal in Kpop than Sica gate and The LSM sabotage. it'd be the biggest SM scandal ever 
People speculate that more Snsd members will join the label but, I don't think so. Maybe, Tiffany in future after being active.
Happy for them both.
We won't know for sure, but I think it's everyone's predispositions before the debut. I vaguely remember some gg members saying that some of them had more dance lessons because they were better at it, and some had more vocal lessons, apart from the general training. (I can't remember who said that though)
The interesting thing is that sometimes idols improve with time or develop the skills they haven't had before years after debut, and in this situations the original positions are no longer valid. I don't think any company has ever changed the positions, but I may be wrong. A good example is Jihyo, who was already mentioned. Her dancing improved so much over the years, that some people think that now she's also one of the centers in a group, put more in the spotlight.
There are also cases when some members are skilled in both singing in dancing, then I would guess the company chooses one thing, maybe depending on which other positions are already given? Someone that comes to my mind here is Luna from f(x). She got into SM thnks to her dancing skills but ultimately debuted as the main vocalist. I believe her dance skills were on par with their main dancer, Victoria (although each of them shone in different dance styles), yet her vocal skills got so developed, she ended up being their best vocalist.
Fx is another group with complex positions.
Luna was the Fx choreography best dancer but Victoria was the main dancer due to her exceptional Chinese traditional dance skills. Same went for Exo Tao and NCT WinWin who were part of the dance line for dance skills very different from Kpop dance requirements lol!
Visually, Sulli was the official visual I think, but, Krystal stood out the most because she had a more charisma, better physique by Korean beauty standards, better vocals and dance skills than Sulli. When Fx started struggling, Krystal even did better as an actress. At some point, she took over the visual and centre role in the group.
Display MoreI agree with the first part of your comment but when you mentioned Jessica and her ice princess image, I have to say I disagree with it.
I remember that after the debut, SM gave each of the girls a role and an image to present - so Jessica was supposed to be the cold, princessy one, Sunny was the cute one, Yoona elegant etc. But in reality, I remember that after some years the girls would say theose were not true at all. I remember lots of comments that in reality Jessica is very warm and friendly, Yoona turned out to be a prankster, very playful and a bit tomboyish. Sunny got super tired of having to do aegyo all the time.
So while I think that the positions in the group for them (vocalist and dancer) were all good, I personally think that the personas that SM gave them weren't exactly right. I was actually happy that they started to lose them after a few years and show more of their true personalities.
I might be wrong though, cause people change and perhaps there were parts of them that were true to those "personas". Like with Seohyun - she really seemed very proper and a little uptight, and it seems she just grew out of it later on.
Edit: Of course all of it is just my assumptions and observations, because I don't know their real personalities. But they are one of the groups I follow who I feel had to act a certain way in front of the cameras, and that they had certain personas chosen by the company at first.
Jessica is an ice princess because of her Aura. Snsd found her Jessica effect fun.
Naturally, she gives off icy vibes if you don't know her and obviously she's warm when you do. It's something known about the Jung sisters and it's not a bad thing. The girls also know it and say, they may look icy but appreciate it when someone approaches them first. Meaning, they may give off attitude vibes and make you feel like there's always a wall around them but if you approach them, they are loving, warm and fun.
The ice princess vibe also gives them their chic fashion side too. It's very brilliant.
Yoona's private personality is definitely different from her public image but it still makes her the Snsd Yoona she is because she got to showcase her real self in many variety shows.
...do you know that Sunny signed to LSM's New York label?
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Positions seem to be largely left by the wayside in modern kpop. I think this is due to the fall of the dedicated rappers and the rise of the all-rounders. For me the most interesting position that remains is leader, especially when the member chosen isn’t the eldest, as it says there is something special about that member in particular.
All rounders make it difficult to assign a given position. Karina is a very good example. She can sing, dance and rap so well.
Dont know too much about 4 and 5 gen but the 2nd and 3rd gen mostly depend on the idols capabilities to carry that role.. Example SuJu that you will know which one visual, vocal and dance line.. Even Bigbang got their own position in their performance. But mostly dance/visual line will be rapper in the group unless the group skillful balance like OG TVXQ
It was easier in the old gens. The new gens are confusing. You'll not know who's better at what sometimes
Display Moretrainee assessment and actual skill no?
like main dancers should be the best dancer of the group
the main singers the best singers of the group
I'm sure the company has months and years of assessing said idols during their trainee period to determine who gets what role
True, but, some of those positions don't make sense for example in 2ne1, Bom was the main vocalist but Minzy was a better vocalist than Bom. Same with Bigbang, Taeyang is the main vocalist but Daesung is the strongest vocalist.
At debut, clearly all members aren't that great but, the label should know who has more potential to grow. Aespa Giselle was a good vocalist at her school but SM gave the vocalist roles to NN and Winter possibly because of their potential.
