Exo for me
Posts by sonemariam
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as LSM down with Chris Lee - such a disaster wouldn't have happened on my watch!!!
as selfmate - I couldn't care less about stats and who ranked where...If I like the song I like the song regardless of how many streams it gets or how high in the charts it goes
Lol! I bet some SM idols miss LSM in some ways.
Same here. All I care about is the good music but some fans can't stop trying to drag idols whose label's main focus was never to succeed in the west except for having globally huge fandoms. SM always wanted China more that Japan or the west for Exo, and for RV, I'm not sure and it does not matter. Their discography is what matters to me.
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Idk if the timing was too early or not because no matter when the US push was going to be done, Nct was always going to work hard to succeed. All the talk shows, festival performances, etc had to be done for them to get enough recognition to make some money.
For SM, it's a business regardless of what we think.
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I mean I get why SM didn’t bother pushing their groups around 2017/2018 when SM stans were being loud about “western validation” and “paper award”. It was not a move they wanted to risk when their consumers were very against it.
Still they were too late to capitalize on Psycho to follow on that momentum. I feel like SM is always pushing the wrong group, pushing the wrong song and targeting the wrong audience
Psycho wasn't promote at all even in Korea because of Wendy's accident.
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actually they went right after bts set the stage for kpop acts in the US in 2017-2018ish. i don't think they could've gone there at the time of their debut. so considering all, they siezed the opportunity as fast as they could
I didn't notice that because it didn't feel that way to me seeing how Nct worked their butts off in the US to get known and get fans to support them.
Right from the time he promoted rookie BoA in Japan decades ago, LSM always talked of doing Kpop based on Culture Technology and making it a global thing and the successful SM Town Tours over the years proved that their US push was always a plan since before their debut.
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And it's working so well, they have the craziest fans out there, not every company would put on hiatus their new idol because he has a life.
Or literally let the fans decide who can be in a group or not (ex: suju).
Nct promoted in USA despite their results back then being mid. It’s every group after red velvet. I suspect they’ll promote riize in USA soon. They already had an English version and promoted in Thailand and indonesia
Nct went to the US years after their debut. It wasn't immediate. NCT dream only went 7 years after their debut. The US push paid off because NCT got good tour numbers that side. SM got what they wanted.
Only Aespa went there early.
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I kinda miss them though.
Their discography was solid.
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Can't they have both? SM doesn't want more growth, more profit?
Not with the way they do sh*t with their idols.
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Mmmmm, but they can have both though. Army and blinks are the two biggest fandoms right now and a lot greater than any fandom that SM has had. Both acts have fandom and GP attention. Looks like SM needs to learn…..
Do their idols have weird concepts like Ae stuff, Red and Velvet, Exo, NCT and release the most experimental Kpop music ever with all kinds of lyrics like SM idols?
I don't think so.
While other labels want both, SM puts fandoms first and leaves GP support up to luck.
I don’t think so SM wants western validation but wants the groups with the least western appeal to hit big that’s why RV & Exo never got pushed despite being among the most popular internationally acts during their peak.
Lack of promotions for Exo and RV in the west and with them doing only 1 or 2 fan meetings and a few concerts is another issue why their music isn't streamed that much that side.
If SM wanted to make it in the west so bad, Exo and RV we're their best bets but they did not use them. SM can't even promote them right in Japan.
Nct, SuperM and Aespa have complicated music and concepts for the west leave alone Asia. It's not everyone's cup of tea.
SM literally created their own niche music in the already niche Kpop market.
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Its clear that Asia has it's way of doing things and Ifans can only rant about it because we don't understand so well.
Btw it's entertaining to see how so many people get triggered during award show season when we don't have control over which idol gets what award and performs when at the award shows!
I thought SM was falling but it looks like they still got it
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Basing on the concepts they've managed to give their idols after Snsd,it's very clear that SM doesn't care so much about the GP who are crucial in streaming.
Unfortunately or fortunately, SM prefers huge and loyal fanbases that they can milk and use to cement longevity for their idols for decades.
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I wonder what the criteria for getting listed is!
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She is?
Tbh, I thought she was done with the idol life, to me she looked like she was done with the idol life and career for many years, and even more so after Jessica left.
Let's wait and see what happens.
And maybe the new label will be for other things than idol life. Idk!
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Girls are booked and busy even Jessica has come back to music.
I must say I don't follow them as closely as before it's not the same following 9 people doing stuff together than 9 doing stuff separately but I'm so happy they all are working and being successful.
Jessica is busy doing it her own way and so is everyone else.
It's hard to keep up. Even I missed Seohyun's fan meeting tour in the OP. But, it's great for them.
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It's like this almost all the time, so much so that I've given up on keeping track of all their individual activities
Girls are always busy which is nice, but it also means they have a hard time planning comebacks
Same here. It became more obvious now that each one of them is either on tour or on TV/theatres or both, and I was like wow!
And I except the next group come back in like 2030 or so lol!
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There wasn't time when sones weren't well fed tbh
True. Sone just can't have enough lol!
