they have the physical sales, the digital streams in korea and global, it girl and after each comeback they just keep growing
remember when everyone said they wont be able to pass eleven success and then love dive happened? well peoplel said the same about Love Dive and After Like already passed the peaks of LD in everything it just left longevity now
what else IVE need to be considered a top group now aside of being from the big 3? because honestly they have all the receipts to back them up 
remember when everyone said they wont be able to pass eleven success and then love dive happened? well peoplel said the same about Love Dive and After Like already passed the pick of LD in everything it just left longevity now
Oh is it time to revive some threads
Globally yes.
In Korea, they may be the #1 group overall.
Oh is it time to revive some threads
thats why I made the thread too lazy for doing it 
I am not sure but they are the real 4th gen leaders for sure.
Frontrunner for leaders of 4th gen for sure
I don't think so it's early to tell there are other groups that also have potential, but they are one of the front runners for 4th generation girl groups for sure
i think its still early to tell
I will form my opinion at least after they comeback with a mini, confirm it when they tour
also Newjeans might give them run if they go up from here
I think NJ will win the battle overall though specially global one but they are rookies that just debuted so I can't put them here now. IVE is already in their 3rd era and people were calling aespa 4th gen #1 GG with next level and Savage so I don't see why not the comparions
maybe IVE will have their GIRLS era comeback but at the moment they are clearly ahead of everyone else
A set up 💀 
Nope.
Oh is it time to revive some threads
thats why I made the thread too lazy for doing it
3 eras?
Queen Beth of England dies at 99, after being a fairly good queen for 70 years, and she may or may not get an 'era', but a K-pop group barely an year old and not even 10 songs, has 3 eras..
Kpop and it is exaggeration-on-steroids lingo...pfft..
But anyway, yes IVE is definitely a top group now.. it will take a bad scandal, horrible mess up etc. to topple them off the top tier.
Even if the competition does extremely well, they have achieved enough clout that they will stay so for sometime.
As to comparisons with 3rd gen - BTS/BP etc., we will have to see.. longevity takes time- literally.
At this point they are look more like how Twice was in 2016.
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Queen Beth of England dies at 99, after being a fairly good queen for 70 years, and she may or may not get an 'era', but a K-pop group barely an year old and not even 10 songs, has 3 eras..
Kpop and it is exaggeration-on-steroids lingo...pfft..
But anyway, yes IVE is definitely a top group now.. it will take a bad scandal, horrible mess up etc. to topple them of the top tier.
Even if the competition does extremely well, they have achieved enough clout that they will stay so for sometime.
As to comparisons with 3rd gen - BTS/BP etc., we will have to see.. longevity takes time- literally.
At this point they are look more like how Twice was in 2016.
Nothing to do with kpop but just wanted to say lizzie DEF getting her own era 2nd elizabethan era cant see james bond swearing fealty to that knob CHUCKSTER DA THIRD
OMG THE +10 jump 
GG fans see a girl group chart consistently and they suddenly go crazy 
Shouldn't you put the before Blackpink as well if you're being fair with your comparison?
Globally yes.
In Korea, they may be the #1 group overall.
Yes but it's super precarious, I feel like a mid CB would knock them hard just cause its the nature of 4th gen and gg's in general
but was the comparison needed?
also Twice and other groups out there selling well for years and touring and you just gotta erase them
also Twice and other groups out there selling well for years and touring and you just gotta erase them
that's how 4th generation fans behave if a group is trendy and succesful they think they surpassed groups that have been doing well for years.
How do you pronounce their name? Is it IVE like I-V-E, IVE like I've, or IVE like IVY?
Like I've, pronounce fully I and v, at least its how i read from Korean
How do you pronounce their name? Is it IVE like I-V-E, IVE like I've, or IVE like IVY?
Their name is the abbreviation from "I HAVE"
So it pronounced as "I've"
eras???
you mean 1 debut and 2 comebacks?
eras???
you mean 1 debut and 2 comebacks?
well, looks like there are a slightly different concept of "era" for op and the others.
the era used by op is a short period of time that are usually used for each comeback/releases.
Like in those content/post saying "X is owning this 'songTitle' era", "Gaeul is slaying in Love Dive era"
yea something like that.
and well, the other seems like having a longer period of time for their "era" definition
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